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Originally posted by epdarks don't be so hard on yourself rob. i graduated in may and i'm still unemployed! getting to the end of my sanity now. living at home. no $$$. it's hard out there right now, finding a good job that is.

Yeah, I can relate to all of that pretty well right now, but I think my sanity went out the window recently and I've really just been incapable of stopping myself from asking "Really? This is what I bust my ass for 5 years for? To wind up where I am right now?"

Anyway, I'm sure you understand - and I really, really hope that you find something soon. I don't wish the circumstances in which we finished school on anyone.

anxiety is a real thing that must be dealt with...see a doctor.

also: you have not failed unless you have done this at least twice.



Rob did you seriously expect to come out of school and everything fall into place? That shit takes years, and for some never happens.

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Originally posted by elFreak Rob did you seriously expect to come out of school and everything fall into place? That shit takes years, and for some never happens.

I guess not, but I don't know - it's hard not to compare yourself to your friends and peers, and when they're doing everything you wish you could be and thought you'd be able to....

...ah fuck, I don't even want to finish that sentence. I feel like a douchebag for even thinking it.

for what it's worth, i've had a bad run recently too

just happens. im learning as i go.

i've all but lost hope at this point.

my parents want me to get a regular job. minimum wage type shit. i'll be fucking dammed if i spent 5 years and 75k start at $7/hr.

hang in there man. 3rd shift can't be too bad. it's better than nothing.

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Originally posted by epdarks i've all but lost hope at this point. my parents want me to get a regular job. minimum wage type shit. i'll be fucking dammed if i spent 5 years and 75k start at $7/hr.

What is your degree in?

if people spent all their life judging themselves for what they had vs what others do, 99% of the world would kill themselves. There will always be those with better or more, use it as a motivation, not de motivation.

What you thought was bullshit, as you had no idea what to base these thoughts on due to lack of actual experience. You are going to learn a lot more now than in school. Don't be a defeatist! You are really young man, lots of life left. If you get into the wrong frame of mind (as you are now), it will make everything harder. Shit and fail are only shit and fail if you do not learn from it and use it to better yourself.

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Originally posted by epdarks i'll be fucking dammed if i spent 5 years and 75k start at $7/hr.

That's the key right there - when you feel like everything you've put every effort into, everything you've worked so fucking hard for, suddenly seems worthless.

It is an absolutely soul-shattering experience.

you need to stop comparing yourself to this image that you project onto your friends and peers. just because you assume everyone is doing so much better doesn't mean that they don't have shit to deal with also.

edit // what Jay said, too.

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Originally posted by epdarks i've all but lost hope at this point. my parents want me to get a regular job. minimum wage type shit. i'll be fucking dammed if i spent 5 years and 75k start at $7/hr. hang in there man. 3rd shift can't be too bad. it's better than nothing.

you can still get the good job!!!!! That "shit" job would also start to pay off that 75k waaaaaaaay quicker than sitting at home doing nothing does. Be realistic!

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles What is your degree in?

marketing

yeah i'm a wanker, i know

i think freak is right, you have to stay positive. when this economy turns around we'll be ok...

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Originally posted by elFreak you can still get the good job!!!!! That "shit" job would also start to pay off that 75k waaaaaaaay quicker than sitting at home doing nothing does. Be realistic!

the 75k is paid off already, thank god.

the problem with getting a shit job is that i know i'll get stuck in a rut...

or maybe i'm just talking myself out of working bc i'm a lazy pothead.

You could always get two shit jobs and try to work 70+ hours per week. Then that $7 / hr would get you $490 a week.

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Originally posted by epdarks the 75k is paid off already, thank god. the problem with getting a shit job is that i know i'll get stuck in a rut... or maybe i'm just talking myself out of working bc i'm a lazy pothead.

or because you have not known what it is like to be in the world without a safety net yet.

trust me when i say that many very smart and educated people work shit jobs (or 2)because they simply have to. Ends need to be met and people need to be taken care of. It is the realest thing you will learn when mom and dad are not there to help you.

i am not being mean here (for once)...you go get something in life or you don't have it.

that simple.

yeah you're right, reality is a bitch when you've grown up in fantasy land... aka the suburbs.

time to face the musak.

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Originally posted by elFreak or because you have not known what it is like to be in the world without a safety net yet. trust me when i say that many very smart and educated people work shit jobs (or 2)because they simply have to. Ends need to be met and people need to be taken care of. It is the realest thing you will learn when mom and dad are not there to help you. i am not being mean here (for once)...you go get something in life or you don't have it. that simple.

I took the job I am at now because I needed money. It is neither what I wanted, nor in an industry I wanted to come back to, but it was easy to get. Hence why I interviewed and took it.

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Originally posted by elFreak or because you have not known what it is like to be in the world without a safety net yet.

Way too many kids with safety nets out there -- I am one of them. Sometimes I wish my parents had decided to pay for nothing past eighteen, but then I doubt I would have ever had the opportunity for the quality of education I have gotten.

We safety net kids tend to doddle around doing unproductive stuff like posting on boards and we just assume, whether we want to admit it or not, that someone else will pay our bills forever.

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Originally posted by l�cid you need to stop comparing yourself to this image that you project onto your friends and peers. just because you assume everyone is doing so much better doesn't mean that they don't have shit to deal with also.

The only assumption I making is that I feel pretty confident in knowing when my friends are happy and when they aren't, and to that end those are the people who who I do want to be just like - the kids who are happy.

Everyone has shit to deal with, but it's rarely the same size pile.

and now you can waste the check on 600$ jeans. @ ben

great success!



I did not really want to move half way across the world to teach kids (i mean seriously...me and kids), but i put up with that shit to make contacts. Now i don't have to work too hard and was able to turn that into a business venture. Gotta put in that grunt work.

*thumps bible*

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Originally posted by RJT The only assumption I making is that I feel pretty confident in knowing when my friends are happy and when they aren't, and to that end those are the people who who I do want to be just like - the kids who are happy. Everyone has shit to deal with, but it's rarely the same size pile.

i mean this in the nicest way rob, but consider therapy. I am being serious here...your friends happiness has nothing to do with yours.

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Originally posted by elFreak i mean this in the nicest way rob, but consider therapy. I am being serious here...your friends happiness has nothing to do with yours.

I don't take offense at all, Jay. You've likely got an idea where I'm at right now.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Way too many kids with safety nets out there -- I am one of them. Sometimes I wish my parents had decided to pay for nothing past eighteen, but then I doubt I would have ever had the opportunity for the quality of education I have gotten. We safety net kids tend to doddle around doing unproductive stuff like posting on boards and we just assume, whether we want to admit it or not, that someone else will pay our bills forever.

Something I am glad I don't, and never did, have. I enjoy knowing that I have had to bust my ass to have what I have the past 6 years.

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Originally posted by elFreak and now you can waste the check on 600$ jeans. @ ben great success!

LOL for the record I have NEVER spent $600 on jeans.

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Originally posted by elFreak i mean this in the nicest way rob, but consider therapy. I am being serious here...your friends happiness has nothing to do with yours.

i suggested the same thing to him a few nights ago.

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Originally posted by RJT I don't take offense at all, Jay. You've likely got an idea where I'm at right now.

i think everyone does sooner and later in life. When a smart person starts making not so smart assumptions about himself, it can mean an outside unbiased opinion (therapy) could help put things into perspective while avoiding getting depressed (clinically) about it. If you are already into clinical depression mode (not saying) a professional will help rectify it.

Ah, Christ.


That's that I guess. And the fail rolls on...

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