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Posted by Q5echo on Oct-12-2008 20:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Rezko and Ayers are tenuous connections that were given their 15 minutes in the media during the primary campaign. McCain has at least as many tenuous connections to Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac as Obama does (an example of how easy this six-degrees crap is) and ACORN has nothing to do with Obama at all.

What else you got.


Rezko and Ayers aren't tenuous, you just haven't looked into it hard enough.

Wright, Rezko, Ayers, F&F, ACORN are all insights to man's judgement and character. they represent patterns of behaviour that should be allowed no different scrutinization than any other person looking to hold the highest office.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-12-2008 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
yeah we wernt dicussing intellectualas. we were discussing "large mass of supporters spouting off straight hate in such a vulgar fashion".


I thought we were discussing the video you posted. You know, the one that had a heading "Intellectual liberals didn't like our rally."

What's the next negatively-connoted conservative catchphrase? Is "informed" next?


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-12-2008 20:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
Rezko and Ayers aren't tenuous, you just haven't looked into it hard enough.

Wright, Rezko, Ayers, F&F, ACORN are all insights to man's judgement and character. they represent patterns of behaviour that should be allowed no different scrutinization than any other person looking to hold the highest office.


Well enlighten us then. Because I've read just about every mainstream investigative piece on both these issues and I haven't seen anything indicating there's much of a relationship at all, much less one that warrants some sort of apology.

So to me it seems that you, like the rest of your McCain supporter brethren, are still grasping desperately at straws, confronted with the fact that you've lost the election.


Posted by josh4 on Oct-12-2008 20:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Rezko and Ayers are tenuous connections that were given their 15 minutes in the media during the primary campaign. McCain has at least as many tenuous connections to Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac as Obama does (an example of how easy this six-degrees crap is) and ACORN has nothing to do with Obama at all.

What else you got.


Nothing. They have nothing and thats why they are resorting to this stuff.


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-12-2008 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
I thought we were discussing the video you posted. You know, the one that had a heading "Intellectual liberals didn't like our rally."

What's the next negatively-connoted conservative catchphrase? Is "informed" next?



oooooohh you got me there. chalk one up for you


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-12-2008 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Because I've read just about every mainstream investigative piece on both these issues


there's your problem right there. the "mainstream" are in the tank.


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-12-2008 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by josh4
Nothing. They have nothing and thats why they are resorting to this stuff.


right. thats why McCain will win Ohio


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-12-2008 20:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
there's your problem right there. the "mainstream" are in the tank.




ok pal. there's so much tire-swinging going on in the mainstream media that it's impossible to make a straight-faced argument that they've never favored McCain.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-12-2008 20:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
right. thats why McCain will win Ohio


I'll give you Ohio. And Florida. Obama is going to win Virginia. And Colorado. And New Mexico. And Nevada. And Iowa.

But for what it's worth:
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Meaning I'm not sure where you get your information.


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-12-2008 21:52:

quote:

"I'LL KICK HER ASS!!!!"





>LINK<



ABORT SARAH PALIN bumpersticker



all from Democratic Underground:





remember Jill Greenburg?



http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/83137110.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=17A4AD9FDB9CF19303D83A05122D2369E79C6F9065C2DCA0E30A760B0D811297













from Death of a President




Gainsville, Fla., Democrat David P. McCally was charged with battery after he allegedly barged into a local GOP office, assaulted a cardboard cutout of President Bush, and punched a local Republican chairman in September 2004. (Credit: Alachua County Jail.)


In March 2004, Carol Lang, a campus secretary at City College in New York, reportedly assaulted a police officer trying to arrest unruly anti-war protesters. Police arrested Lang and charged her with second-degree assault, disorderly conduct, and obstructing governmental administration. (Credit: New York Police Department.)


the same protest at which Carol Lang was arrested, police arrested students Justin Rodriguez, left, and Nicholas Bergreen. They charged Rodriguez with resisting arrest and disorderly conduct. They charged Bergreen with assaulting a police officer. (Credit: New York Police Department.)


Police arrested Corey Robert Cooke of Ellicott City, Md., in September 2004 and charged him with malicious destruction of property after he allegedly used a power tool to cut down a Bush-Cheney sign. (Credit: Howard County Police Department.)


Howard County, Md., police arrested Peter Lizon, left, and Stephanie Louise Lizon in October 2004 and charged them with malicious destruction of property. Mr. Lizon allegedly destroyed Bush-Cheney signs with a bayonet. His wife allegedly acted as the lookout. (Credit: Howard County Police.)


Nashville police arrested Andrew Thurman, left, and Frederick Stevenson in Septmeber 2004 and charged them with theft and unlawful weapons possession after they found guns and 71 Bush-Cheney signs in Thurman�s car. Policy say they stole the signs from Nashville, Tenn., yards because Thurman was angry at President Bush for sending his brother to Iraq. (Credit: Nashville Police Department.)


Nathan Winkler of Tampa, Fla., was arrested and charged with aggravated stalking in March 2005 for allegedly terrorizing a mother who had a Bush-Cheney bumper sticker on her car. Click on the video here to listen to an excerpt of the mother�s frantic call to 911. Winkler reportedly had a handmade sign in his window that read, �Never forget Bush�s illegal oil war murdered thousands in Iraq.� (Credit: Tampa Police Department.)


Florida Democrat Barry Seltzer allegedly tried to run down congresswoman Katherine Harris with his Cadillac as she was campaigning in Sarasota, Fla., in October 2004. See the arrest report here. (Credit: Sarasota Police Department via The Smoking Gun.)


In April 2005, Earlham College suspended Josh Medlin after he threw an ice cream pie at Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol. Medlin pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor battery charge two weeks ago. (Credit: Indianapolis Police Department.)


In March 2005, Western Michigan University police arrested Samuel Mesick and charged him with a misdemeanor charge of disturbing the peace after Mesick threw a cup of salad dressing on Pat Buchanan. Buchanan chose not to press felony assault charges. Click here to see video footage of the attack. (Credit: Kalamazoo Police Department.)


Police cited Bruce Charles of Portland for disorderly conduct after Charles threw a shoe at former Pentagon adviser Richard Perle in February 2005. (Credit: Portland Police Department.)


In April 2005, Indianapolis police arrested Joshua Miner of Danville, Ind., on charges of criminal mischief, a felony. Miner allegedly smashed glass panels at a monument to Medal of Honor recipients. (Credit: Indianapolis Police Department.)


In May 2005, police arrested Ajai Raj and charged him with disorderly conduct after he asked a vulgar question and made lewd hand gestures after a speech by conservative author Ann Coulter at the University of Texas at Austin. Read the arrest report here. (Credit: The Smoking Gun.)


Sowande Ajumoke Omokunde, son of congresswoman Gwen Moore (D-Milwaukee), was one of five paid Kerry campaign workers in Milwaukee who allegedly slashed the tires of 20 vans that had been rented by Wisconsin Republicans as part of their Election Day 2004 get-out-the-vote effort. (Credit: Milwaukee County Police.)


Michael Pratt, son of former Milwaukee mayor Marvin Pratt, is another alleged tire-slasher. (Credit: Milwaukee County Police.)


Three other alleged tire-slashers: Lewis Caldwell (top-left), Justin Howell (top-right), and Lavelle Mohammed (bottom). (Credit: Milwaukee County Police.)[/img]


[i]In March 2004, Claremont McKenna College visiting professor of psychology Kerri Dunn falsely claimed she discovered anti-Semitic, anti-black, anti-woman graffiti spray-painted on her 1992 Honda Civic. Dunn was convicted of two felony counts of attemped insurance fraud and one misdemeanor count of filing a false police report. (Credit: Claremont Police Department.)[/img]


[i]Phillip Edgar Smith, left, and William Zachary Wolff were arrested after they threw custard cream pies at conservative author Ann Coulter during her speech at the University of Arizona in October 2004. Read the arrest report here. (Credit: Pima County Jail via The Smoking Gun.)




stole all of this from a blog by someone that has been vilified and demonized and called some of the worst obscenities by libruls everywhere including some on this board


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-12-2008 22:05:

A change of subject. Neat.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Oct-12-2008 22:16:


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-12-2008 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
A change of subject. Neat.


i'm allowed to because youre wrong most of the time.


Posted by Lebezniatnikov on Oct-12-2008 22:21:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
i'm allowed to because youre wrong most of the time.


Ah, so instead of proving that I'm wrong most of the time, you'd rather just concede the point and move on to a moot one? You're losing me here.


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-12-2008 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov
Ah, so instead of proving that I'm wrong most of the time, you'd rather just concede the point and move on to a moot one? You're losing me here.


there is no point. it's should be obvious to anyone with a half a brain that there are distorted opinions about candidates on both sides. thats why they're called opinions.

i'd argue that the more irrational, violent and sometimes criminal are the ones on the left but, again, thats just my opinion.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Oct-12-2008 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
it's should be obvious to anyone with a half a brain that there are distorted opinions about candidates on both sides.


i guess palin is one person that doesn't know that there are distorted opinions on both sides then huh?


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-12-2008 23:53:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced


thats kinda funny


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-13-2008 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i guess palin is one person that doesn't know that there are distorted opinions on both sides then huh?


haha very funny


Posted by josh4 on Oct-13-2008 04:42:

Regardless, I don't think any of this matters. Theres a little more than 3 weeks left. One debate to go and if the previous ones are any indication, I really don't expect McCain to perform drastically different either way.

Obama has got to be measuring the drapes by now.


http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

quote:

Projections for the week of October 6, 2008

Electoral Votes:
Barack Obama 364
John McCain 174

Popular Vote:
Barack Obama 52.8%
John McCain 45.2%

http://www.electionprojection.com/president08.shtml


quote:

RCP Electoral Count 277 158 Obama +119
No Toss Up States 353 185 Obama +168
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/


Maybe this Ayers and questionable connections will move some numbers for McCain but he is not going to play Swift boat. It would have to be a media Swift boat blitzkrieg and McCain just wouldn't do that.

I mean look at this shit:


McCain has never really been up at all. Short of a drastic event that changes the political landscape nothing is going to significantly alter the course of this race, especially not a bunch of rehashed old shit we've already heard.

Republicans tried experience, that didn't work.
Republicans tried questionable connections, that didn't work.
Republicans tried change, that didn't work.
Republicans tried appealing to women, that didn't work.
Republicans tried appealing to the base, that didn't work.

Now we're back at the questionable connections? Talk about grasping at straws.

There is one campaign here that throughout a protracted primary, and all of the election so far, has never had to change their theme.


Posted by George Smiley on Oct-13-2008 08:49:

quote:
Originally posted by diggerz
negative on both accounts...

listen, everyone has taken this "race card" to levels beyond reason, it's turning in a black vs white thing and it's not. i don't care who's president as long as i am able to make money and make business the same way as before.

I know I was being funny, see, ha ha

Your comments about Obama wanting to sip tea "with fucking communists" does however make you sound like one of those raving loonies in the videos. I was expecting to read you accusing Obama of being a terrorist as well because of his "unfortunate" middle name. My EU flags were for your benefit as well as the type of right wing nut job that is the topic of discussion of this thread hates Europe and calls us European socialists (like that is supposed to be some kind of insult!).


Posted by LazFX on Oct-13-2008 20:09:

They Ear Their Own




The End of the GOP this is......


Posted by josh4 on Oct-13-2008 21:03:

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX
They Ear Their Own




The End of the GOP this is......


Did she put Bill Kristol in for Obama?


Posted by DJ Shibby on Oct-14-2008 02:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Q5echo
there is no point. it's should be obvious to anyone with a half a brain that there are distorted opinions about candidates on both sides.


This is nothing short of an epiphany.


Posted by Q5echo on Oct-14-2008 04:27:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Shibby
This is nothing short of an epiphany.


you obviously have half a brain


Posted by LazFX on Oct-14-2008 07:33:



the prayer....... of the GOP


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