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It's easy to claim that hatred comes from popularity but in this case it's said already. Rceently he has basically made 2 tracks over and over again with huge pace, made Essential Mix with nothing but his own tracks and has made remixes for Caf� Del Mar and Finished Symphony which were really really unnecessary.

I don't really care much about this guy but he should have left Finished Symphony alone.

To be honest, Deadmau5 does make a lot of different sounding tracks in different styles (Faxing Berlin <> Duo Cad Sordid <> Complications), it's just that nobody makes a big deal about it on here. Not that I'm some big mau5 fanboi or something.

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Originally posted by TheVrk Its because he's made it big. Most ppl hate artists who become too popular

Wrong. There are many 'big' artists who are known to be nice guys too. J00F, Jody Wisternoff/Nick Warren, Hybrid & many others who aren't actually douchebags.

if mau5's tracks weren't as popular, all this criticism would pretty much be non existent. Obviously, what makes the "hater" individuals hate him so much is not the fact that his music recycles certain elements. And it's not the fact that deadmau5 is so popular. Instead, it's those two factors combined that make the haterade recipe so effective - the fact that this recycled music actually manages to attract thousands of fans & dollars. This is what they don't understand, or rather they understand it but it definitely makes them boil a little.

The whole argument that he is polluting the EDM scene with crap music has no basis at all. There are hundreds of thousands of EDM artists in this world, one guy producing music how he wants doesn't ruin the scene - at all, in no way. When most of you say you're not jealous, but rather feel disappointed that mau5 is "wasting his talent" - come on, you expect us to believe that? lol. Since when are you so concenred what some young kid is doing with his talented potential? Like i said, there are many many talented artists in this scene - it really doesn't matter what one of them chooses to do in the studio.

So who'll be the first to say "omg i cannot BELIEVE he's playing the jealousy card again!"

DEADMAU5 IS THE NEW SEAN TYAS! - END OF STORY

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Originally posted by TheVrk Its because he's made it big. Most ppl hate artists who become too popular

and this thread in general:

i think people are forgetting that he IS an asshole too.

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Originally posted by StanVoid if mau5's tracks weren't as popular, all this criticism would pretty much be non existent.

Duh.

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Originally posted by tortoise i think people are forgetting that he IS an asshole too.

i've never met the guy, but i've heard some say he's an asshole and others say he's a nice guy. did u have a direct encounter with hiM?

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Originally posted by StanVoid i've never met the guy, but i've heard some say he's an asshole and others say he's a nice guy. did u have a direct encounter with hiM?

http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic.php?t=152535

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Originally posted by whiskers http://trance.nu/v4/forum/viewtopic.php?t=152535

well i know about that, but he had his reasons. Schossow was effectively mocking him with the rat6 productions. may have been an overreaction, but it's still reasonable.

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Originally posted by StanVoid i've never met the guy, but i've heard some say he's an asshole and others say he's a nice guy. did u have a direct encounter with hiM?

I saw him at disneyworld. Apparently the reason he was so bitter is because Walt Disney molested his girlfriend, Minnie.

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Originally posted by StanVoid well i know about that, but he had his reasons. Schossow was effectively mocking him with the rat6 productions. may have been an overreaction, but it's still reasonable.

So basically, to you...reacting like a spoiled child is reasonable?

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Originally posted by woscar99 So basically, to you...reacting like a spoiled child is reasonable?

again - we don't know everything that happened. we just know about the rat6 tracks and assume that's the whole reason, but there may have been words exchanged aside from that that you're not aware of.

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Originally posted by StanVoid again - we don't know everything that happened. we just know about the rat6 tracks and assume that's the whole reason, but there may have been words exchanged aside from that that you're not aware of.

I don't need to know the whole argument/reason to know that he reacted like a spoiled little child that is too high on himself.

Didn't he refuse to play at the same event as someone else (that may be the link lol i didnt click it)

cos imo, like someone or not, when a promoter books you, you turn up, give 100% to the people etc

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Originally posted by Ian Wrong. There are many 'big' artists who are known to be nice guys too. J00F, Jody Wisternoff/Nick Warren, Hybrid & many others who aren't actually douchebags.

who the fuck cares if they're nice guys? that's clearly a personal opinion.

it's about the music not if someone is a "nice guy". give me a fuckin' break buddy..

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Originally posted by TheVrk Its because he's made it big. Most ppl hate artists who become too popular

precisely

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Originally posted by Ian Didn't he refuse to play at the same event as someone else (that may be the link lol i didnt click it) cos imo, like someone or not, when a promoter books you, you turn up, give 100% to the people etc

Yeah, that was it. And that is exactly what I'm saying. No matter what happened between those two, he should have acted like an adult, do what he was PAID to do and move the fuck on.

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Originally posted by TranceArmstrong i personally am tired of him because he is not that good - he has gotten hugely popular making music that many here feel is just simple, tired, and samey. I really like faxing berlin and jaded but as time went on I saw that for the most part his songs consist of either retreads of faxing berlin or generic farty house which I already detested long before I knew the name deadmau5. (besides the Harder Better Faster Stronger Remix - thats still a fun track imo) And then when he gets an essential mix he uses all his own tracks? not cool. Some of the angst in that thread was I think more a general disdain for how far the essential mix has fallen though, not just hating on the mau5. Sorry, but when Deadmau5 and Steve Aoki get an EM, it is no longer the 'Legendary' Essential mix. as far as the hatred here on TA, i feel some are a little over the top by insulting him personally, but the fact remains that he is a one or two trick pony (very prolific, very good marketing, hardworking, etc) who makes for the most part pretty blah dance music, and people just rip on him because the music really is not worth the hype. No offense, and there's stuff Deadmau5 has made in the past that I like, but for the most part I'm just tired of it. But like all fads there are stupid people who will go nuts for it, and more power to him making the music he likes and getting gigs and making $$. But here on TA we do not take kindly to sellouts, and that's why the hatred.

You more or less summed up my point of view in your post.

Faxing Berlin still remains my his best work. It was a really fresh sound and to me, showed great promise as to where he could go in dance music. Jaded and Not Exactly were good but I already started getting very bored. Since then, every production has been a carbon copy of the faxing berlin style or else dreadful electro house. The repeated production and release of the same sound, simply cos it is making money is not going to gain much respect with knowledgable fans of that particular music type.

Although i dont know him personally, I would say that from interviews, stories and other things I have read from/about him, he certianly doesnt come across as the most likeable character and in my opinion, on more occasions than not, actually gives people more and more reason to dislike him. Take his recent Resident Advisor for example. In this interview, he states how he never followed dance music, never went to gigs, says his idea of hell would to be in the middle of a big crowd at a dance gig and then goes on to mock his own fans for enjoying themselves while using drugs and listening to his music. Other comments over the last year have included saying things like DJing will be a thing of the past and his new live performance will set a new platform for dance music, has openly admitted that he is continuing with the same sound cos its making him money etc. There are numerous other incidents in which he has shot himself in the foot � a poor essential mix, rumours about him refusing to play cos the promoter didn�t have his hot chocolate, refusing to play at a different gig cos the line-up included an artist who previously made a joke production about his tracks etc etc etc.... So for someone who has only been successful for less than a year to be coming out with all this stuff, it is clearly not going to help his credentials with die hard EDM fans. And there we have the hatred.

Although to be perfectly honest, seen as he was never into dance music before hitting the big time, I sincerely doubt he cares if the EDM forums and real fans of the music don�t like him. He is selling records, filling venues and has become known to many clueless part-time dance fans � which I reckon is what he was aiming for.

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Originally posted by StanVoid mocking him with the rat6 productions. may have been an overreaction, but it's still reasonable.

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Originally posted by Kaity who the fuck cares if they're nice guys? that's clearly a personal opinion. it's about the music not if someone is a "nice guy". give me a fuckin' break buddy..

i don't really care what an artist looks like or whether they're a douchebag or not. but if their music is repetitive and rehashes the same idea, saying that "yes, he's a douche" is more satisfactory. it's also the fact that a lot of people think the music is amazing and made by god. it's the same situation as Tiesto - Fly. so, no, it's not just because he's popular.


also, to the "hate because he's popular" crowd. I think Richie Hawtin is awesome. I think Sasha is awesome. I think Warren is awesome. last time I checked, they were popular. so, take your argument, and use it elsewhere.

I don't care about the artist, it's nothing more than a decent hint during a certain state of producing to find music similar to tracks I already have and enjoy.

It's the track that counts, not the artist imho.

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