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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen LOL, anybody know who this guy is yet?

99% says its someone on here who disagrees with RICH's political views who made an alternate account...

I dont disagree with Rich or argue with him so,
NOT IT!

how many people on TA are actually anonymous? Ricky Roma and TASD are the only two that i can think of. everyone else is a DJ, or a promoter, or a clubgoer and if we wanted to identify them(via a photo etc) im pretty sure we could identify everyone in the CA board....

i know captkirk,andrieaux, vahid, svgmethod,lomeli,euphoricsenses, etc so they can vouch for my existence
anyone got any pics of ricky roma or tasd?

It's looking more and more like republicans are just gonna have to deal with Obama being the next president.


It's ok guys, we'll fuck it up just as good as you did, honest!

look why attack those who are for the republican ways? As mentioned about myself, I am not backing either one on here. And it might be opposite of what you think. I am just saying being obssesed over two politicans when it really isnt that different once in office is crazy. I mean you have people like osme of you here attack republicans and then the other side attacking the dems - to a personal level even - like this board already - way to go. This isnt necessary.

And guys, there is far more than just the president when it comes to handling the country...

One thing i would love to hear what obama and mccain have to say is - why no timetable for afghanistan? Think about it. If you set one in Iraq, do you set one in afgahnistan? The both of them will be speechless. No one will know what to do. Mccain and obama are for a withdrawl now - one wanted it before surge, other didnt. but either case, transfer that to afghanistan. Does the same apply? And to add, since both want a surge there, how long till a timeframe there if things dont work. And if that trick question works, you can say the timeframe seems like giving up and leaving it to the country. It is a mess when it comes to afghanistan.

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Originally posted by xenpro

I like this! This should be on HGTV "What's With That House?"

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen LOL R!CH, The guy is a fuckin trial attorney, of course he is going to be a smooth talker, and come off as calm and collective. Which is the main reason he has made it so far in this election in my opinion.

i consider this a strength. to be a successful trial lawyer, one must be able to build bulletproof legal arguments. the process of building legal arguments requires that a lawyer be able to examine the weaknesses of his own case, to view his case and his opponents' from different angles and to look for ways to strengthen his own. when trying to sell the country or the world on a policy, it would be nice to have a leader who's thought every detail through for a change.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen We cant say much about his decision making, respect he may have from both our allies and our enemies. We cant say much about his economic strategies either. All we can do is hope he surrounds himself with the right people to help him along the way.

i think it's safe to say that the world is much more willing to deal with a rational, diplomatic leader such as obama rather than an stubborn ideolog such as bush. we can't say if his ecnomic policy will work, but i am positive it will have more impact than mccain's supply-side bush economic policy, which is a monumental failure. i have confidence that obama will surround himself with the right people. he's already stated that he'll surround himself with advisers with different viewpoints from both sides of the aisle, not party loyalists and yes-men like bush does.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen Taxing the wealthy, and distributing to the poor? Who should have the right to do this? its just wrong, and goes against what america stands for.

bush carried out the most massive redistribution of wealth (to the ultra-wealthy) in the history of america. what obama is doing can be at best described as a correction of the last 8 years.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen And on that note, you think raising taxes on small business men making 250k is going to help? They will simply lay off middle class workers like you and I to make up for it. You think taxing big oil companies is going help the middle class? Lets remember that when they raise the price of gas to make up the revenues lost by the increase in taxes. These tax proposals just sound good for the middle class, because they are supposed to in order to win votes. It isnt going to help the middle class much at all.

the difference in tax on people making $250,000/year is $7500. i hardly think that is going to make or break the american dream. if $7500 breaks your payroll and forces you to lay off employees, then your business is shit to begin with.

this notion that taxing oil companies is going to make them raise prices on us to cover the difference is just foolish. their pricing of gas isn't based on a cost structure, they price based on a severely limited supply. they will price to markets demand, not to their annual tax sheet. as it is now they are receiving billions in tax breaks and billions more in subsidies. money being given away to the most profitable companies in the history of the business. frankly i don't care if they raise gas prices either. americans given the option of cheap gas will waste it frivilously. if there's anything that should be taxed in society, it's things where higher consumption creates higher societal burdens. things like gas and cigarettes. this tax plan will help the middle class, but not only the middle class... the extra money the middle and lower class receive will help pay for the services they buy from the small businessmen.

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Originally posted by xenpro there goes Josh again dude just vote for Joe The Plumber

lol so the press tracked down joe the plumber. here's the facts on the guy...

- he doesn't even have a plumbing license
- he is required to have one to be an apprentice or journeyman in toledo
- he doesn't even have the money to buy out his employer
- he admittedly has much to learn before he can take over the business
- he owes the irs $1200 in back taxes
- the state of ohio has placed a lien on his house for tax evasion
- he earns a middle class wage and would benefit from obama's plan more than mccain's
- in spite of this he's a republican and a strong admirer of mccain

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frankly i don't care if they raise gas prices either.

More amusing rhetoric from our resident Libtard R!ch. Oh the irony coming from the guy who can't afford $30 dinners in Vegas. Ha ha. The hilarity and comic value of R!ch and his leftarded motley crew of minions such as big perf, thrax, clovis and xenpro is in their forged masturbatory arrogance without the nearest semblance of basis. Sorrowfully, they have their panties in a bunch in hopes of prosperity that they imagine will be brought to them via Al-Barrack Hussein Osama. What will be shocking to them, is that reliance on government for any of it absolutely always yields disappointment which in turn will perpetuate their obduracy. Keep it up! I'm entertained.

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Originally posted by Clovis It's ok guys, we'll fuck it up just as good as you did, honest!

exactly! Thats what i wish R!ch would do, rather then spend time cupping his balls on TA.

I just want all the Obama supporters to realise that he isnt that great, and is proposing no change at all. Its just to bad the republicans could not put forth anything worth much more. Vote for Obama because you hate bush, mccain, and jesus..thats fine with me. But dont try to convince me he is the greatest thing since the toaster oven.

You've outdone yourself with your stupidity. It amazes me, such a well structured paragraph of nonsense. Let's diagram it.

1: Bash on poster, laugh and call them a libtard...
2: State a fallacy based on information you got by trolling another thread. Oh, and use a comic phrase. That's not irony Alanis.
3: List the names of 3 or more posters on the page who have called you out as an ignorant, uneducated idiot. Thus your attempt to "punk them".
4: Al Barrack Hussein.. there we go again..Your attempt to point out Mr. funny name. Is this TA or are you smarter than a 5th grader?

Get a brain.

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I just want all the Obama supporters to realise that he isnt that great, and is proposing no change at all. Its just to bad the republicans could not put forth anything worth much more. Vote for Obama because you hate bush, mccain, and jesus..thats fine with me. But dont try to convince me he is the greatest thing since the toaster oven.

ok lets put this in dj terms maybe Josh will get it

McCain is a Gemini PS121X Mixer
Obama is a Pioneer DJM800 Mixer

I know you want the DJM1000 but for now its out of stock

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Originally posted by xenpro ok lets put this in dj terms maybe Josh will get it McCain is a Gemini PS121X Mixer Obama is a Pioneer DJM800 Mixer I know you want the DJM1000 but for now its out of stock

um wow, im speechless dude. I think im moving to ableton.

lol ... yeah ableton is the future but trying to get a bunch of waco religious record spinning freaks to change their ways is almost impossible .. step at a time my friend

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen exactly! Thats what i wish R!ch would do, rather then spend time cupping his balls on TA. I just want all the Obama supporters to realise that he isnt that great, and is proposing no change at all. Its just to bad the republicans could not put forth anything worth much more. Vote for Obama because you hate bush, mccain, and jesus..thats fine with me. But dont try to convince me he is the greatest thing since the toaster oven.

i keep hearing people say obama doesn't represent change at all from the last 8 years. frankly whenever i hear this, i tune out the rest of the nonsense this person has to say because they're either using hyperbole for effect or they really are incapable of drawing an accurate comparison between bush and obama policies.

no one said obama is the greatest thing ever, but he is without a doubt a good leader. where my opinion comes in is that i think he's a better leader than any president in my life time - better than both bushes, clinton and reagan, and here's why... he possesses all the traits of a real leader: he's intelligent, compassionate, calm, controlled and poised even in the face of personal attack, he's more concerned about tackling issues than defending his ego from detractors, he can communicate ideas clearly to smart people and dumb people alike, he inspires people, he's a consensus-builder and a uniter with endorsements from liberals and conservatives alike (including chris buckley from the national review), he doesn't pander to fringe groups, and based on his age and background he is more in touch with the real world today than his colleagues in dc.

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Originally posted by R!CH i keep hearing people say obama doesn't represent change at all from the last 8 years. frankly whenever i hear this, i tune out the rest of the nonsense this person has to say because they're either using hyperbole for effect or they really are incapable of drawing an accurate comparison between bush and obama policies. no one said obama is the greatest thing ever, but he is without a doubt a good leader. where my opinion comes in is that i think he's a better leader than any president in my life time - better than both bushes, clinton and reagan, and here's why... he possesses all the traits of a real leader: he's intelligent, compassionate, calm, controlled and poised even in the face of personal attack, he's more concerned about tackling issues than defending his ego from detractors, he can communicate ideas clearly to smart people and dumb people alike, he inspires people, he's a consensus-builder and a uniter with endorsements from liberals and conservatives alike (including chris buckley from the national review), he doesn't pander to fringe groups, and based on his age and background he is more in touch with the real world today than his colleagues in dc.

I most definitely agree. When this election began, I was indifferent to all of the candidates. Through the last 9 months, as I have learned more about Obama and watched the way he has handled the ugliest campaign with class, I have become a supporter.

Just a quick example that has not been mentioned much. During the debate, Obama was asked if Palin was qualified to be the vice-president. Talk about lobbing up the biggest softball ever! I was waiting to watch him hit it out of the park. However, he saw no need to partake in the personal bashing. While it would have been more immediately gratifying to listen to Palin's name get abused, it was ultimately a much better move to not indulge.

Of course, when given the opportunity immediately following Obama, McCain went off on Biden. I felt McCain's true colors showed in a time of crisis for him, and he looked like an unstable individual.

joe plumber, the plot thickens!


Call him Samuel the unlicensed plumber, tax cheat

A couple of things about Joe the Plumber, the icon of the authentic working-class voter who was declared the ''winner" of the final presidential debate.

His first name isn't really Joe. It's Samuel.

He's not really a plumber - at least, not a licensed one.

He's concerned about increased taxes - but hasn't paid his own income taxes.

And, he's not exactly just a guy from Ohio.

He's lived in Arizona ... and Alaska.

And as for that "unscripted" moment that ended up on Fox News, the one at a rally where he questioned Sen. Barack Obama about the American Dream - and whether he'd have to pay higher taxes under Obama's plan?

Seems Joe told the conservative Web site familysecuritymatters.org that catching the Democratic presidential candidate off guard "was actually my intent."

"Looks like there's a crack in Joe the Plumber's story," cracked Bob Mulholland, the Democratic party activist and adviser, after some of the details of the life of 34-year-old Samuel J. Wurzelbacher, a.k.a. Joe the Plumber, emerged today.

In an election that has starred all sorts of celebrities - remember Paris Hilton? Britney Spears? - Wurzelbacher got his 15 minutes of fame after being referenced 26 times during Wednesday's presidential debate, 21 times by Sen. John McCain.

Today, McCain even happily declared "Joe the Plumber" to be "the winner" of the debate.

Not so fast.

"Joe the Plumber's story sprang a few leaks Thursday," crowed an Associated Press story.

That's after the AP, bloggers, investigators and librarians - and The Chronicle - turned up court documents and birth records.

For one, Joe's expressed concern about paying more taxes looked a bit tarnished with the revelation that he owes Ohio about $1,200 in personal income taxes that he hasn't paid, according to the Lucas County Court of Common Pleas records. (And there's a 2007 civil filing shows a record for a $1,200 owed to a creditor, St. Charles Mercy Hospital.)

So Joe has an active lien on his property filed in January 2007, records from the Ohio Department of Taxation show.

The Toledo Blade, examining Lucas County Building Inspection records, reported that his employer, the A.W. Newell Corp., "does maintain a state plumbing license, and one with the City of Toledo, but would not be allowed to work in Lucas County outside of Toledo without a county license."

"Mr. Wurzelbacher said he works under Al Newell's license, but according to Ohio building regulations, he must maintain his own license to do plumbing work," the newspaper said. "He is also not registered to operate as a plumber in Ohio - which means he's not a plumber."

What else did Americans learn about average Joe this week?

Among the factoids gleaned from state and county records:

-- He is registered as a Republican, and voted in the state's GOP primary in March, county elections records show. But he was previously registered, dating back to 2007, in the Natural Law Party.

-- He has lived in McCain's home state - in both Mesa and Tucson, Ariz.

-- He lived in GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin's home state - in North Pole, Alaska, from September 1992 to July 1993.

And as comic Bill Maher pointed out, in his 15 minutes of fame, Joe the Plumber has already done more interviews than Palin.

I love rednecks who support the military but don't pay taxes .. fuckin morons

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Originally posted by R!CH i keep hearing people say obama doesn't represent change at all from the last 8 years.

you added "the last 8 years" which was absent from any statement i have made.

He has proposed nothing new that the democrats of the last 40 years have been proposing, outside of the perhaps the largest single tax increase. Raise taxes, spend more of our money, more government regulation, control more of our day to day lives...again, what change rich?

And Jerk, your comparison to palin is obvious, why would he attack somebody with no experience, when he has none of his own. His advisors have advised him to stay away from that battle since day 1.

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Originally posted by xenpro lol ... yeah ableton is the future but trying to get a bunch of waco religious record spinning freaks to change their ways is almost impossible .. step at a time my friend

bro, enough with your dj analogies, they are a complete FAIL



and since you attempted two analogies, they both deserve a FAIL

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Originally posted by xenpro ok lets put this in dj terms maybe Josh will get it McCain is a Gemini PS121X Mixer Obama is a Pioneer DJM800 Mixer I know you want the DJM1000 but for now its out of stock

Obama is going to win this! Not my prime choice but he's better than having that stupid bitch winking at the camera trying to relate to all the steford wives of this country. She reminds me of my damn cheese ball white neighbors, typical gossiping Suzie home makers.

Imagine Mccain drops dead, she's addressing the nation while winking at us all. Oh hell no!

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outside of the perhaps the largest single tax increase

Actually, you're better off under obama's tax plan if you're making less than 250k a year, if you're doing that well dj'ing then hat's off to you.

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Raise taxes

No, he's cutting taxes for 95% of americans.

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more government regulation

... Which would have prevented this financial crisis we're in right now.

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why would he attack somebody with no experience, when he has none of his own. His advisors have advised him to stay away from that battle since day 1.

The reason he doesn't attack her is because she attacks herslef. Plus, the last thing obama needs the day after the debate are headlines reading "obama, the sexist" PLUS he has way too much class to stoop down to her level of idiocracy.

get down

Bill Maher put it best-
"We are a progressive European nation being strangled by a bunch of rednecks"

I'm not calling people names, but no wonder we are so divided. But that's what democracy is and what REAL patriotism is...not waving some $2.99 American flag at a parade on Main Street.

More sex.

then go live in progressive europe where unemployment is way higher than here!

love how liberals make fun of Bush for his mistatements, but when Biden makes them its ok.

i got a three letter word for you!! J-O-B-S haha dumbass!

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Originally posted by bas get down

I think he liked your mix Bas!

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