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Originally posted by Domesticated How would that make a difference to your experience?

lol burn

lol.



that looks sweeet. really want to go to Dubai one day.

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Originally posted by fbgdavidson Damn brothers Well I've heard good things about the Canadian Affair/Thomas Cook flights. Apparently, and unusually for a charter, they have 35" pitch throughout economy so you might get lucky. I can understand the need for premium economy, I'm 6ft and ended up on a ski charter a few years back from Lyon to Gatwick that was the legal minimum 28" pitch. Ow! I don't do economy longhaul

There's 5 possible planes with the 2

TC -

boeing 757-200 with 35" economy
airbus a330-200s, both with 33" econ but one has an extra row of seats

Air Transat have A330 and an A310 both with 32" in economy.

The only thing what annoys me is neither tell you how much more you'd get in prem econ, which i'd love to know simply because you can then work out how much more worth it it is for the price.

Have to say I'm tempted to fly to vancouver then get the train through the rockies to calgary & a coach upto edmonton, just to see some of the sights, albeit very briefly.

i went to dubai for new years 2006, Its unlike any other city in the world, Its one of the most ultrad mordern, ultra cosmopolitan cities in the world, in terms of architecture and the ppl. I alwys thogut being a Muslim country, they would have all kinds of restrictions, but to my surprise, there where hardly any women to be seen in veils, i thought finding alcohol would be a prob but ppl there drink like crazy, we even went to a strip club in dubai, prostitution is there on a very large scale, Cars on the road'd i dont even wanna talk about those they had 7 series,5 series, audi's, hummers like we see corollas in America, Plus lamborgini's ferraris etc.

Architecturally they have some insane stuff we can only see in cartoons. Plus i saw a whole one hour documenty about dubai on discovery, Tentacle shaped building, rotating tower, Under water hotel(hydropolis), 4 of the worlds tallest buildings, Indoor seeking, Restaurant made of ice, Palm Island, the world island,Burj al arab the worlds only 7star hotel, the world biggest arc bridge and biggest fountain are under construction. but too bad they use labor exported from india and pakistan and pay them like $7 a day.

first class... why? it's just transportation. get some fucking sleep or read something

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Originally posted by fbgdavidson

The point we were making is that we usually fly economy for like $300 round trip, where as first class is at LEAST 3x the price. I NEVER see it less than that. How can I justify that? Especially being that I don't have a job that pays 150k+ (as it would appear from how often you fly first/business class) and therefore, can not afford that.

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Originally posted by lacksesepsotygh first class... why? it's just transportation. get some fucking sleep or read something

i can't sleep on any economy seats. I can't get comfortable and it's really uncomfortable to try

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Originally posted by Ian i can't sleep on any economy seats. I can't get comfortable and it's really uncomfortable to try

I have this exact problem. My flight to Toronto sucked ass. I was fucking cramped.

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Originally posted by lacksesepsotygh first class... why? it's just transportation. get some fucking sleep or read something

Why buy a Mercedes when I can buy a Kia?
Why buy a Patek Philippe when you can get a Timex?
Why stay at the Peninsula when you can stay in a youth hostel?

First Class internationally is a quality experience, one I enjoy and one I value. I can't sleep in economy, I don't even find it comfortable, in fact I'd say it is miserable for more than a couple of hours! That's why. I don't expect everyone to justify it, that's why you'll find around a dozen seats in the front of the plane and about 200 in the back. When I'm going on holiday getting there is part of the experience for me. The thought of having to cram myself into an economy seat for 12hrs on the way home takes the shine off the last few days of the trip.

There are some things we all value in life and others can't justify. I can't see why anyone would spend $10,000 on some rims for their car, that has absolutely zero value for me.

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Originally posted by fbgdavidson First Class internationally is a quality experience, one I enjoy and one I value. I can't sleep in economy, I don't even find it comfortable, in fact I'd say it is miserable for more than a couple of hours! That's why. I don't expect everyone to justify it, that's why you'll find around a dozen seats in the front of the plane and about 200 in the back. When I'm going on holiday getting there is part of the experience for me. The thought of having to cram myself into an economy seat for 12hrs on the way home takes the shine off the last few days of the trip. There are some things we all value in life and others can't justify. I can't see why anyone would spend $10,000 on some rims for their car, that has absolutely zero value for me.

I value quality very much, but I can usually just deal with flying a couple (read: max of 5hrs) hours on a flight a little cramped instead of paying 1800 for a flight that would usually cost me 600 in economy.

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I value quality very much, but I can usually just deal with flying a couple (read: max of 5hrs) hours on a flight a little cramped instead of paying 1800 for a flight that would usually cost me 600 in economy.

Well simply that's because your pricepoint where you think is buyup is worth it is lower than mine. I don't blindly purchase First or Business on shorthaul as I don't value the product as much (longhaul is a very different matter).

On shorthaul there are several factors I take into account; the price of economy versus First/Business, the product (some airlines use aircraft with international seating on certain domestic flights - nice!), even down to frequent flyer miles earned...To put into perspective on the $12k round the world trip I flew the frequent flyer miles earned from the trip were worth about $5000.

I had a friend at Uni who said even if Business and Economy were the same price on a longhaul she'd fly down the back because it was less pretentious!

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Originally posted by gehzumteufel I have this exact problem. My flight to Toronto sucked ass. I was fucking cramped.

how long did the flight take? and who did u go with ?

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Originally posted by fbgdavidson Well simply that's because your pricepoint where you think is buyup is worth it is lower than mine. I don't blindly purchase First or Business on shorthaul as I don't value the product as much (longhaul is a very different matter). On shorthaul there are several factors I take into account; the price of economy versus First/Business, the product (some airlines use aircraft with international seating on certain domestic flights - nice!), even down to frequent flyer miles earned...To put into perspective on the $12k round the world trip I flew the frequent flyer miles earned from the trip were worth about $5000. I had a friend at Uni who said even if Business and Economy were the same price on a longhaul she'd fly down the back because it was less pretentious!

Well my pricepoint is much lower because I don't, as I mentioned, make a ton of money. If I had the money to fly first or business class on a majority of flights, I would, but I do not.

And since when was flying first class the epitome of opulence? Your friend sucks at logic.

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Originally posted by Ian how long did the flight take? and who did u go with ?

WestJet and 5hrs. I was traveling by myself.

Damn that's tall! I'd like to see that spire try to withstand an earthquake

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Originally posted by Ian it's reasons like this that dubai & the rest of the arab states are a place we should all take in in our lifetime. Well unless we're grooverider.

lol 4 years for a bag of weed he didn't even know he had

Watch tonight on Discovery, a one hour Documentary on Dubai. I saw it a few weeks back. Definitely worth a watch.

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedul...14361.25862.0.0

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Originally posted by coolestrl Watch tonight on Discovery, a one hour Documentary on Dubai. I saw it a few weeks back. Definitely worth a watch. http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedul...14361.25862.0.0

Thanks, just set it to record before heading out

Same here! Think I'll watch that.

The coke cans in Dubai are bigger than usual

this economic crisis is hitting Dubai though, they are now starting to have a harder time borrowing money as they are not paying money back as much as they are borrowing. I would not doubt it if this never gets funded.

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