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Originally posted by NoError Is it sad that I know Cardoso as a sociologist but not as your former president?

Quite on the contrary, I think that shows how competent he is as a sociologist (given the fact that being the president of Brazil doesn't really make anyone famous around the world ).

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Originally posted by Lira .just curious..

mother f----!!!!!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It should be pointed out that anti-intellectualism amongst the working class is far from exclusive to the US.

Yeah, but it really crosses class lines here.

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Originally posted by tubularbills mother f----!!!!!

What?! Free meme is free!!!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It should be pointed out that anti-intellectualism amongst the working class is far from exclusive to the US.

Reminds me of a scene from "The Italian Job", when the leaders asks everyone not to make fun of the professor simply because he's "a men of letters"

Man of letters = effeminate, shriveled weasel of a man.

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Originally posted by Lira Quite on the contrary, I think that shows how competent he is as a sociologist (given the fact that being the president of Brazil doesn't really make anyone famous around the world ).

Well, he does rock my sociological socks, so it's fair enough I guess

^^^ What are his thoughts like? I know next to nothing about him as a sociologist... which is kinda ironic, given my interest on social sciences AND my nationality

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Man of letters = effeminate, shriveled weasel of a man.

That was exactly the intended meaning. Have you seen this film yet?

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Originally posted by Lira That was exactly the intended meaning. Have you seen this film yet?

No.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles No.

Do it. Not only it is a classic (from 1969), it's also quite entertaining

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Originally posted by Lira ^^^ What are his thoughts like? I know next to nothing about him as a sociologist... which is kinda ironic, given my interest on social sciences AND my nationality

I don't know him too well, only that he is part of the dependency school of political economy. He was less defeatist than some of the other dependency theorists, though. He saw an important role for investment by multi-national corporations where the others didn't.

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Originally posted by NoError I don't know him too well, only that he is part of the dependency school of political economy. He was less defeatist than some of the other dependency theorists, though. He saw an important role for investment by multi-national corporations where the others didn't.

Interesting

I <3 Lira's intellectual discussion threads.

Thank you

i think a place like the US just has a bigger bell curve (all the while dumbass reality tv shows and a president who speaks for himself are broadcast across the planet giving people the impression that's all that's there). so there's lots of dumbasses, in general tons of very intelligent and effective people (US still has the most productive economy on the planet, by far) and lots of intelligentsia.

in truth, the US still has the absolute highest technology (military, IT, space) in the world and hosts the most high quality (maybe even including the highest quality) universities on the planet.

and good for the US education, quality of life and economic markets have been growing across the globe. not saying it's american standards spreading but that the US set the bar for everyone to emulate.


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Originally posted by - T - not saying it's american standards spreading but that the US set the bar for everyone to emulate.

What bar? Seriously, here we bust our ass and still have nothing. You go to Europe and you work 35 hour work weeks and enjoy life.

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Originally posted by Lira I read an interesting rant this morning that got me thinking. I often read that Americans pride themselves for being doers rather than thinkers, and that Pragmatism is related to that. Now, is this Pragmatism part of reason why there's this rampant wave of anti-intellectualism in the US? .just curious.. ps.: Keep in mind that I admire American thinking quite a lot, so this far from being a criticism.

This is what I believe the mass of America is...a mob...

"I think he [Commodus] knows what Rome is. Rome is the mob. Conjure magic for them and they'll be distracted. Take away their freedom and still they'll roar. The beating heart of Rome is not the marble of the Senate, it's the sand of the Colosseum. He'll bring them death�and they will love him for it." -Senator Gracchus (Gladiator)

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Originally posted by Lira Now, is this Pragmatism part of reason why there's this rampant wave of anti-intellectualism in the US?

honestly, i blame the internet.

Re: The country where learning is a grave political disadvantage

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Originally posted by Lira I read an interesting rant this morning that got me thinking. I often read that Americans pride themselves for being doers rather than thinkers, and that Pragmatism is related to that. Now, is this Pragmatism part of reason why there's this rampant wave of anti-intellectualism in the US? .just curious.. ps.: Keep in mind that I admire American thinking quite a lot, so this far from being a criticism.

I think it has more to do with the deliberate dumbing down of America.

There's a post in the PDD which touches upon it.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Americans pride themselves on lots of things.

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Originally posted by Trancer-X I think it has more to do with the deliberate dumbing down of America. There's a post in the PDD which touches upon it.

I saw it, and I even added Hofstadter's book to my Christmas wish list

am i politically disadvantaged?

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