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Those first few hundred people just had to go and kill someone, ruining it for everyone that wanted, but didn't get a cheap tv. ******s.

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Originally posted by geroin well it works at the guv on any given night for example

people hungry for beats and people hungry for tasty savings are two very different things

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Originally posted by Abercrombie I wonder if we'll have a repeat on boxing day up here.

my thoughts exactly....and although this is unfortunate, we shouldn't act so appalled to this sort of behaviour when we Canadians act almost just as crazy for 'deals' every Dec. 26th. Try going downtown on Boxing day...I'm sure it's pure luck that no one's has been trampled thus far trying to get into a store...not to mention the shooting a few years back in a foot locker...
Hopefully this years Black friday event will give us a wake up call in regards to our own stupidity...

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Originally posted by 1dawoman my thoughts exactly....and although this is unfortunate, we shouldn't act so appalled to this sort of behaviour when we Canadians act almost just as crazy for 'deals' every Dec. 26th. Try going downtown on Boxing day...I'm sure it's pure luck that no one's has been trampled thus far trying to get into a store...not to mention the shooting a few years back in a foot locker... Hopefully this years Black friday event will give us a wake up call in regards to our own stupidity...

I am one of those who show up at 4am for boxing dat at Future Shop or Best Buy. They have gotten smarter however by handing out tickets for specific items in the lineup, so they won't have to rush into the store. Just like handing our bracelets for a party event to avoid a rush.

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Originally posted by 1dawoman my thoughts exactly....and although this is unfortunate, we shouldn't act so appalled to this sort of behaviour when we Canadians act almost just as crazy for 'deals' every Dec. 26th. Try going downtown on Boxing day...I'm sure it's pure luck that no one's has been trampled thus far trying to get into a store...not to mention the shooting a few years back in a foot locker... Hopefully this years Black friday event will give us a wake up call in regards to our own stupidity...

The scale of boxing day here is quite a bit less than Black Friday in the US. Discounts aren't as deep and our retail stores depend less on boxing day for a portion of annual revenue compared to Black Friday in the US.

Alright I really have to put my 2 pennies in on this one. The culture of need for products is not exclusive to Americans but also Canadians. I was shopping in New York yesterday and yes it was very busy and tempers were flared but no more so then on Boxing Day in Canada.

To be honest I was at a Best Buy in Mississauga 2 years ago and waited for 6 hours to get and grab a deal and these ******s came 15 minutes before the store opened and pushed through the doors.

My opinion, it is completely the duty of the retailer to control the crowds. Have one or two employees watching to ensure that the line move steadily and that ppl dont get in ahead from pushing and budding.

There will be a few pushers, but quite frankly, if you try and push back, you get trampled. Now with this being said, what happened in NYC yesterday was horrible, but I would not blame the entire crowd because with all things in life, there are always a few bad ppl that ruin things for everybody.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar So, like, does anyone get charged? I guess no one is (can be?) held responsible? Wow. That REALLY sucks for that man's family and his close friends. How brutal and disgusting. Wow.

I wondered that myself as store typically all have security cameras, particularly at the front doors...so those first people through the door should be quite visible on tape.

an article today says they are reviewing video in an attempt to do so...but ID'ing individual shoppers may be difficult.

another gem from a witness that is nauseating:

"When they were saying they had to leave, that an employee got killed, people were yelling 'I've been on line since yesterday morning,'" she said. "They kept shopping.''

disgusting.

the "me me me" generation at it's finest (worst).

Walamrt didn't initially disclose why the store was closing - they said it was a "medical emergency." The complaint about being in line since yesterday is still nauseating, but I don't think people were told outright by the store that someone had died.

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Originally posted by Skipper The scale of boxing day here is quite a bit less than Black Friday in the US. Discounts aren't as deep and our retail stores depend less on boxing day for a portion of annual revenue compared to Black Friday in the US.

Boxing Day is a joke here, there usually are hardly any discounts at all (they're "discounted" from the pre-Christmas prices which were inflated by 500%).

Amazing that after all that's happened in the USA, people still haven't learned their lesson. Analysts said that the recession was coming because people were borrowing and consuming too much and not saving enough, and the brass and the journalists laughed at them. Now the industry has caved in on itself and what are people doing... borrowing and consuming. At this rate, we may be looking at the D-word.

Which reminds me, the Wal-mart across the street has a sale on DVDs. Gotta go!

I'm just repeating what an eyewitness is quoted saying. either way...if they said "medical emergency" and were closing the store, obviously it was more serious than a child throwing up in an aisle or something, lol. then again, I put too much faith in people to use their head and figure out that it's serious.

I just can't believe that "me" attitude. emotions and greed are running so high, that in the face of being told there is an emergency/death/whatever, people will reply with something relating to themselves. "but I..."

right. because it's all about YOU. who cares what else happened.

it really is a disturbing reflection of human behaviour in that context.

another reason why americans are scum.....

^^ And you feel so strongly about this that you had to post it in two separate threads. Idiot.

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Originally posted by Yohan last recession was in what, early 90s? practically entire generation grew up being affluent and dont know what it feels to penny pinch. I think I got a pizza for one xmas that I shared with my sis.

There were some Christmases (and birthdays) for me during my teenage years where I got absolutely nothing... and still I survived...

Now, years later, after finishing school and finally finding a job and working there for several months, the sudden euphoria of being able to buy anything I want (with my earned money, not on credit) has worn down over time. Now, I don't even like to go to shopping malls. I wish I could go on trips instead, but I don't have a car.

People should learn to appreciate and value their things more (make them last longer), and not do shopping as a past-time... that way, when you really need something, or want to buy something once in a while for pleasure, you will be able to enjoy it more....

Re: So, the American consumer is not dead - but a Walmart worker is

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Originally posted by Skipper Disgusting.

Walmart kills an employee with low low prices.

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Originally posted by geroin pictures http://www.nydailynews.com/money/ga...n_pictures.html

Oh that explains it...
Not one white person in the crowd..

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Originally posted by SkyHigh Oh that explains it... Not one white person in the crowd..

what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

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Originally posted by Anton Wal-Mart management should have put up security barriers, called in the police or hired some kind of security company. Also, they knew the crowd was large and crazy, so they should have pulled the workers back to a safer place. It doesn't mention it in the article but I wouldn't be surprised if that employee was there because he HAD to be. Its not like it was a flash mob or anything, management saw this coming from a mile away.

Hind sight is always 20/20. No, no one thought that someone would die. Also someone has to go and actually open the door so removing workers from the situation wouldn't have worked.

I mean this was technically an accident. No one went there to kill somebody. But I just wonder what happened to being calm/polite? I guess the power of the mob splits the responsibility. No one would actually do this if there weren't 1000s of others around feeding the insanity.

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Originally posted by geroin well it works at the guv on any given night for example get some security to organize the lineup, in the pictures it looks like shitload of people just rushed into the store

The crowd going to guv knows that they can't pull this shit and fall in line. They know that they are going to a club and will have to get past security. The Walmart situation is much much different. People there are there to get to the sale as fast as possible. It's a race. Once the last iPod is picked up, there is no more. In the guv you just wait until you get in.

There are many sales like this in Canada. Wedding dresses is one example. Those bitches are CRAZY! A good dress could make your wedding (and ultimately your life) all you dreamed of! lol. And those designer lines at H&M are also ridiculous. Women are actually fighting over the last size 6 of any garment.

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Figure it out..

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Originally posted by SkyHigh Figure it out..

or just grow a pair and say it yourself.

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Originally posted by SkyHigh Figure it out..

lol. what?

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Originally posted by SkyHigh Oh that explains it... Not one white person in the crowd..

I see one. Right above the yellow thing on the left.

P.S. What does that have to do with anything??

we all knew this was coming...

(I didn't know the guy was 6'5" and 270 too...whoa)

http://www.thestar.com/Business/article/547867

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Family of man trampled by shoppers sue Wal-Mart Dec 03, 2008 03:24 PM FRANK ELTMAN The Associated Press GARDEN CITY � The family of a worker trampled to death in a "Black Friday" crush of bargain hunters at a Long Island Wal-Mart store filed a wrongful-death lawsuit today, claiming store ads offering deep discounts "created an atmosphere of competition and anxiety" that led to "crowd craze.'' The lawsuit claims that besides failing to provide adequate security for a pre-dawn crowd estimated at 2,000, Wal-Mart ``engaged in specific marketing and advertising techniques to specifically attract a large crowd and create an environment of frenzy and mayhem and was otherwise careless, reckless and negligent.'' Wal-Mart, the adjacent Green Acres Mall, a realty company that manages the property and a security company hired to patrol the property were all named as defendants. None immediately responded to phone and e-mail inquiries seeking comment. Jdimytai Damour, 34, had been hired by an employment agency as a temporary worker at the Wal-Mart store in Valley Stream and had been on the job about a week when he died, said his family's lawyer, Jordan Hecht. The 6-foot-5, 270-pound man died of asphyxiation after being crushed early Friday morning by the crowd, which broke down the electronic doors in frantic pursuit of bargains. At least four other people were treated at hospitals, including a woman who was eight months pregnant. Authorities suspect that because he was as big as an NFL lineman, Damour was placed at the entrance of the store to assist with crowd control. "Those hundreds of people who did make their way into the store, literally had to step over or around him or unfortunately on him to get into the Wal-Mart store," Nassau County Police Commissioner Lawrence Mulvey said this week. Police are reviewing store video to identify possible suspects in Damour's death, but Mulvey conceded that criminal charges are unlikely. Mulvey said it was apparent to him that the Wal-Mart store about 20 miles east of Manhattan lacked adequate security to handle the crowds. He said police representatives met with retailers throughout the county two weeks before Thanksgiving and made it clear that security and crowd control for the sales was the merchants' responsibility. Hecht said Damour's family also plans to file lawsuits against Nassau County and its police department. County Attorney Lorna Goodman said, "The county has no liability in situations of this kind.'' The lawsuit against Wal-Mart and the other companies was filed Wednesday in state Supreme Court in the Bronx, the home of one of the victim's sisters, Elsie Damour Phillipe, the court-appointed administrator of his estate. It does not seek specific damages. Shoppers around the country line up early outside stores on the day after Thanksgiving in the annual bargain-hunting ritual known as Black Friday. It got that name because it has historically been the day stores broke into profitability for the full year. The National Retail Federation believes Damour is the first store worker to die on the job in the post-Thanksgiving rush.

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Originally posted by SkyHigh Oh that explains it... Not one white person in the crowd..

ooooh you're going to hell for that
(boyus' s toboi soglasit'sya a to ub'yut!)

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Originally posted by StereoPrincess what the fuck does that have to do with anything?

It's BLACK Friday.

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Originally posted by jennypie It's BLACK Friday.

ha ha.

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