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If you can make the grade by merely showing up to exams, then why, oh why, would you bother showing up to every class? There is nothing particularly noble about doing far more than is necessary, unless you actually gain something more out of it. If you're showing up to every vapid class with all those vapid classmates and an equally enthusiastic professor, you're simply wasting your time.

You're like a pill-bug, scouring my mother's immaculate kitchen - it's minimal feelers going all whichy-way, probing for any grain of sustenance it can find to live just... one... more....day. But you'll never find it, little pill bug. You'll never find that infinitesimal crumb of nourishment you so long for, as mother cleaned just today! Ha-ha-ha-haa!

in high school it was impossible to skip class, they took attendance every bell and skipping = staying after school so I went.

in college it varied. for the large lecture classes where the professor had no idea who you were I went for a few classes to determine if this was a class where the lecture was the exact same material as was in the book or not. if it was, I was done and I was only coming back for the midterm and the final. I'm not going to sit here for an hour while your old boring ass reads to me directly out of the book.

if not, I'd go to class because what I found was that typically the exams were then based on the lecture and sitting through an hour of that 3 days a week was easier/less painful than trying to read 300 pages of dry ass text prior to each exam.

if the class was related to my major or had less than 25 people in it I almost always went. in those classes I was either interested in the material or it was way to obvious to the prof that you weren't there. when you blow an exam and he is deciding if he should have mercy on you or not it is always better for him to know/like you from class than think "this prick skipped every class but the first week".

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On You're like a pill-bug, scouring my mother's immaculate kitchen - it's minimal feelers going all whichy-way, probing for any grain of sustenance it can find to live just... one... more....day. But you'll never find it, little pill bug. You'll never find that infinitesimal crumb of nourishment you so long for, as mother cleaned just today! Ha-ha-ha-haa!

This sounds more like surfing the 'net.

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Originally posted by Krypton I think it's pretty sad that many educators have failed to see the futility of tests which require memorization of material which will be forgotten once the need for it is exhausted. I believe writing a paper is the best way to learn material, because the student must research, learn independently, apply that learning, articulate what has been learned, etc. etc. Testing is sooo archaic to learning.

i totally agree with you on this point.Though i do think for some years depending what field you are into , it appears necessary to memorize and learn to memorize , it's pretty awesome to have more freedom at some point.
Unfortunately being into my 5th year of uni this current year i feel like im back into high school because we are such a small class that all our teachers are very strict with us .....and all the classes are mandatory or u get eliminated but on the other hand we get more responsible in what we want to learn and can work in a more intelligent way.
but on the other hand, to see the class becoming a real soap opera full of hatred , competition and arguments makes me regret the previous years full of freedom and simplier way of thinking "do your things "

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Originally posted by Lira Personally, I'm too easily distrac- look, an eagle!

that reminded me of homer simpson.

I probably could have aced every exam over the last 5 years I've taken at Stanford without studying or with minimal studying, without attending lectures, and without doing my labs.

I kind of agree with Frenchie, though. I go to school to learn. Exams don't matter to me, I always do well on them. If that was the whole point, I could have stayed home. I'm sure the universities at home give good exams.

I came to learn and I've learned a lot more because I've studied, attended lectures, and done my research,labs, whatever. And why would I let my country and my family spend over $50,000 a year to educate my sorry ass if I didn't want to benefit at least a bit?


/door knob

^ pretty much how I see it.

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On I AM A PRODUCT OF MY ENVIRONMENT

lolwut?

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