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-An "iPod tax" that charges state and local sales tax for "digitally delivered entertainment services" - in other words, that new Beyonce song you download.

State sales tax at movie theaters, sporting events, taxis, buses, limousines and cable and satellite TV and radio.

Costlier driving with the repeal of the 8-cents-per-gallon sales tax cap on motor and diesel motor fuel, plus and increase in the auto rental tax.

Tuition increases as SUNY and CUNY, $620 and $600 a year respectively.

A 50 cent tax on cigars. The current tax is equal to 37% of the wholesale price, or 34 cents a cigar.

No more sales tax break on clothes and shoes worth $110 or less, except during two weeks a year.

Higher taxes on wine, beer and flavored malt beverages. He would also impose an 18% tax on non-nutritional drinks like soda.


Mother fuker wants my broke ass to spend more money on school, shopping and now beer?? *crying uncontrollably*

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced That is absolute bullshit.....if anything.....being insensitive only makes the problem worse. I understand you don't like fat people and that is fine. I just hope nothing ever happens that will cause you to be a fat cow some day.

coddling people with PC bullshit does nothing to solve the problem. fat people impose costs on society. they end up in the hospital more frequently for high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, etc... the cost to treat their self-imposed 'illnesses' are spread among society through higher insurance premiums for everyone. why should i have to pay $1000 a year for health insurance because 50% of the people make poor health choices. Maybe if there was a separate health insurance asset pool just for heavy people i wouldn't really care about how many fries they shove in their face. but since my insurance costs are greater because of obesity, I think the factors that go into causing it should be made more expensive. Since they clearly can't make the right choices, and their poor choices burden society, they should have to pay more to make those choices.


white trash does not impose a burden on society because they are trashy. it's not even close to the same thing.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 coddling people with PC bullshit does nothing to solve the problem. fat people impose costs on society. they end up in the hospital more frequently for high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, etc... the cost to treat their self-imposed 'illnesses' are spread among society through higher insurance premiums for everyone. why should i have to pay $1000 a year for health insurance because 25% of the countries likes to eat unhealthily. Maybe if there was a separate health insurance asset pool just for heavy people i wouldn't really care about how many fries they shove in their face. but since my insurance costs are greater because of obesity, I think the factors that go into causing it should be made more expensive. Since they clearly can't make the right choices, and their poor choices burden society, they should have to pay more to make those choices. white trash does not impose a burden on society because they are trashy. it's not even close to the same thing.

well....its obvious you don't know how health insurance premiums are calculated.....the amount you pay has nothing to do with how fat other people are....unless you fit into that fat category. Each person's premium is calculated on several factors and those who are over weight are already being charged for being over weight.

"Raising the price of this liquid candy will put children and teens on a path to a healthier diet," said Elie Ward of the American Academy of Pediatrics of New York State.

I like how the governor and his staff are trying to make it seem like they care about the children. Fuck you. All you care about is covering the state's deficit and not looking shitty. The children my asshole.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced well....its obvious you don't know how health insurance premiums are calculated.....the amount you pay has nothing to do with how fat other people are....unless you fit into that fat category. Each person's premium is calculated on several factors and those who are over weight are already being charged for being over weight.

obviously you don't know how it works. your premium is calculated based on the risk you pose and the overall cost incurred by the company. insurance is a risk spreading mechanism whereby all risk is pooled and the company attempts to spread it based on your actuarial risk. in insurance, there are winners and losers. fat people take way more from insurance than they pay. that means people, like myself, who don't see doctors pay more in insurance premiums than we cost to the insurance companies. the people who don't see doctors frequently indirectly pay for the treatment of fatties. If fat people paid as much as they cost to insurance companies they simply wouldn't buy insurance. the entire reason they have insurance is so they don't have to pay all their costs. since they see doctors more frequently, the likelihood they cost more than their premiums is pretty good. don't come at me with your elementary understanding of insurance.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 obviously you don't know how it works. your premium is calculated based on the risk you pose and the overall cost incurred by the company. insurance is a risk spreading mechanism whereby all risk is pooled and the company attempts to spread it based on your actuarial risk. in insurance, there are winners and losers. fat people take way more from insurance than they pay. that means people, like myself, who don't see doctors pay more in insurance premiums than we cost to the insurance companies. the people who don't see doctors frequently indirectly pay for the treatment of fatties. If fat people paid as much as they cost to insurance companies they simply wouldn't buy insurance. the entire reason they have insurance is so they don't have to pay all their costs. since they see doctors more frequently, the likelihood they cost more than their premiums is pretty good. don't come at me with your elementary understanding of insurance.

Well....I guess my Charter Insurance Professional diploma along with being in the insurance industry for 13 years has no merrit.

You are right....you premium is based on the probability you will suffer an insured loss. The probability that some fat person will suffer a loss doesn't affect your premium in any way. Insurance is not based on what you take from the system....its based on the probability that you will take from the system. That is the basis of all insurance...whether its auto, health, property or liability insurance.

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced well....its obvious you don't know how health insurance premiums are calculated.....the amount you pay has nothing to do with how fat other people are....unless you fit into that fat category. Each person's premium is calculated on several factors and those who are over weight are already being charged for being over weight.

this may be true for individual coverage but a large number of Americans are covered by group health policies provided by their employer. I pay the same amount out of each paycheck for insurance as the fat tub of shit in the office next to mine even though that fat bitch is eating herself to death one meal at a time. On top of that the cvnt smokes too. I've heard the bitch on the phone with her doctors and pharmacies about her blood pressure meds, her diabetes, etc all conditions she has because she chooses to weigh twice what she should. How does the insurance company pay for the extra medical care she needs? By jacking up the price for everyone in the group.

Diabetes alone costs the Canadian health care system 13.2 billion dollars a year, and a person with diabetes incurs medical costs that are 2 to 3 times higher than those without. Thanks, you fat pieces of shit.

big brother can embed a microchip in the fatties and penalize appropriately for food purchases/consumption.

I think "Fat Island" is a good idea.

it'd sink?

Exactly.

they'd float their way back to civilization to eat us [and maybe consume a few of their own along the way].

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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced Well....I guess my Charter Insurance Professional diploma along with being in the insurance industry for 13 years has no merrit. You are right....you premium is based on the probability you will suffer an insured loss. The probability that some fat person will suffer a loss doesn't affect your premium in any way. Insurance is not based on what you take from the system....its based on the probability that you will take from the system. That is the basis of all insurance...whether its auto, health, property or liability insurance.

apparently it means nothing because you're missing the point that the insurance company has to assess the cost of all their insured customers. to the extent the insurance company has a larger pool of claims, everyone's insurance premium increases. selling insurance doesn't exactly give you much credibility in explaining how actuarials determine the premiums.

Clearly fat people impose more costs on the insurance company. If fat people paid premiums that fully compensated insurance companies for the cost imposed on the company by the fat person, then it would make no sense for the fat person to get insurance.

I know it's based on potential. but in the case of fat people, the actual cost is usually greater than the potential determined for the premium pricing. that increase is offset by people who don't impose as great a cost on the insurance company. if you don't understand that you should probably just quit your job

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Originally posted by iclone they'd float their way back to civilization and eat us [and maybe some of their own along the way].

put no food on the island, they would eat each other

people are going get poorer while they get fatter

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Originally posted by XaNaX put no food on the island, they would eat each other

Or stink themselves to death.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Clearly fat people impose more costs on the insurance company. If fat people paid premiums that fully compensated insurance companies for the cost imposed on the company by the fat person, then it would make no sense for the fat person to get insurance.

ben stiller would not insure a fat person.

This is just a baby step... what we really need is an UNHEALTHY tax... since even slim unhealthy people can put the same draw on health insurance as fatties.

So that means...

Sales tax hike on cigarettes, alcohol, fast food, soft drinks, red meat, white meat, meat, white bread, pasta, candy, butter, and pretty much anything besides fresh vegetables and beans. Since anything with ANY amount of empty calories or fat can lead to obesity.

Oh, and a 20% premium increase on anyone who can't run 5 consecutive miles, do 50 consecutive pushups, 20 consecutive pullups, and 300 consecutive situps. Cause even if you're thin and can't do a moderate workout, you're a sickly prick thats gonna end up hiking up my health insurance premium.

Lets not forget lethargy-inducing hobbies. 20% tax hike on your cable and internet bill, along with a 15% increase in sales tax on all Tv's, movies, and video games.

But isn't all this taxing silly? I mean, if we REALLY want to control this epidemic, we need to just make all these offending activities and consumables illegal. That way, the sheep of the world won't even be tempted by these high risk behaviors, and we can rest assured knowing that the all-powerful gubment will keep us safe, secure, and warm.

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Originally posted by jennypie I think "Fat Island" is a good idea.

Now that I've had time to ponder the repercussions, I've considered that it might just throw the Earth off orbit and send us careening towards the sun! They'd just eat one another faster as the smell of increasingly heating flesh, baking in impending radiation, lubed up their palates, resulting in the crowning of our dominant fatty that much faster! Our only hope would be that this fat king fall off the side of the planet and simply become another member of our solar system before it's too late!

Wow, what a ridiculous post made all the more complete with lots of exclamation marks!

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Originally posted by XaNaX put no food on the island, they would eat each other

it'd have to be a buffet line of fallen fatties after the maggots begin deconstruction. fat people are lazy, michael.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 apparently it means nothing because you're missing the point that the insurance company has to assess the cost of all their insured customers. to the extent the insurance company has a larger pool of claims, everyone's insurance premium increases. selling insurance doesn't exactly give you much credibility in explaining how actuarials determine the premiums. Clearly fat people impose more costs on the insurance company. If fat people paid premiums that fully compensated insurance companies for the cost imposed on the company by the fat person, then it would make no sense for the fat person to get insurance. I know it's based on potential. but in the case of fat people, the actual cost is usually greater than the potential determined for the premium pricing. that increase is offset by people who don't impose as great a cost on the insurance company. if you don't understand that you should probably just quit your job because then you suck at it!

what you are not understanding is that even if you took the "fat cost" out of the equation...you would still be paying the same amount of insurance....unless you were paying the "fat cost" before.
I am assuming you are talking about personal insurance and not a company plan.

by the way...I don't sell insurance....I would definately suck at selling insurance.

Well I was going to say "Fat Planet", but I thought that would be too far fetched. Oh wait.

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Originally posted by jennypie Well I was going to say "Fat Planet", but I thought that would be too far fetched. Oh wait.

Yeah, let's try to tone down the fantasy a little, please. This is a serious discussion on how to control behaviour on a massive level through excessive taxing, now cut the comedy.

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