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Posted by djeso on Jan-05-2009 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
He IS NOT a DJ....

He would even get upset if you called him that since he looks down on them...


he looks down on djs?


Posted by LKD on Jan-05-2009 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by djeso
he looks down on djs?



nonono


he only looks down at djs that are shorter than him....like 4'10 or less

poor guy...cant help it


Posted by teufel-man on Jan-05-2009 17:20:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
He would even get upset if you called him that since he looks down on them...


Did he explicitly state this? If so thats pretty bold of him! Although I can see where he is coming from. I think it takes a lot more talent to produce than to mix some songs together. Anyone can become a half decent DJ with a bit of practice. At the end of the day, all DJs really do is play other people's music.


Posted by VDub on Jan-05-2009 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
Did he explicitly state this? If so thats pretty bold of him! Although I can see where he is coming from. I think it takes a lot more talent to produce than to mix some songs together. Anyone can become a half decent DJ with a bit of practice. At the end of the day, all DJs really do is play other people's music.


Another clueless wonder...


Posted by teufel-man on Jan-05-2009 18:52:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
Another clueless wonder...


What?


Posted by Abercrombie on Jan-05-2009 21:32:

ah man! I go away for a couple of days, and I missed all this!


Posted by VDub on Jan-06-2009 01:57:

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
What?


He said that in an interview and then later claimed he was only joking...

And while it may not take much to "mix a couple of records" it takes A LOT of skill and talent to do a good job of it and put on a proper show...

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
I think it takes a lot more talent to produce than to mix some songs together. Anyone can become a half decent DJ with a bit of practice. At the end of the day, all DJs really do is play other people's music.


I couldn't mix to save my life and this comment still bothers me...


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Jan-06-2009 02:10:

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
Did he explicitly state this? If so thats pretty bold of him! Although I can see where he is coming from. I think it takes a lot more talent to produce than to mix some songs together. Anyone can become a half decent DJ with a bit of practice. At the end of the day, all DJs really do is play other people's music.


if it wasn't for DJs then all the skill in the world as a producer would mean pretty much nothing.


Posted by teufel-man on Jan-06-2009 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
if it wasn't for DJs then all the skill in the world as a producer would mean pretty much nothing.


You are totally correct.

I am not trying to say DJs are useless here or anything.... I am just recognizing the fact that producing takes a lot of talent while mixing is not near as difficult.

Anyone with turntables (slash CDJs), including myself, will tell you that mixing isn't rocket science. Throwing together a decent mix isn't near as difficult as producing a quality song. I wouldnt have a fucking clue where to start in terms of producing.


Posted by Yohan on Jan-06-2009 04:27:

latest in joel shenanigans (thanks to SoCal TA)












deadmau5 is teh pimp!


Posted by teufel-man on Jan-06-2009 04:29:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub

I couldn't mix to save my life and this comment still bothers me...


I am not saying DJing/mixing is a piece of cake. But I don't think you can really compare it to producing in terms of difficulty/skill needed.


Posted by Yohan on Jan-06-2009 04:32:

Apparently some pornstar is one of his fans

quote:
Holly Fox is a fucking lustful teen pornstar slut that wants nothing more that to have her heavenly little mouth with steaming loads from your jewels. Though most of us will never get to slide into her air tight rose colored pussy me and you do get to view her getting fucked at porn web pages such as Newsensations.com. When you are ready, jump over to New Sensations and cum to loads of porn stars just like Holly Fox gettin' railed on camera. Peace!


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jan-06-2009 04:54:


Posted by Skipper on Jan-06-2009 17:01:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
He said that in an interview and then later claimed he was only joking...

And while it may not take much to "mix a couple of records" it takes A LOT of skill and talent to do a good job of it and put on a proper show...



I couldn't mix to save my life and this comment still bothers me...


There are good producers, and then there are shitty ones. A lot of them.
There are good DJs, and there are shitty DJs....there are a lot of those too.


Posted by LKD on Jan-06-2009 17:07:

why did this become a discussion about djs vs. producers?

the reason deadmau6 doesnt call himself a dj is because HE DOESNT USE CDS OR VINYL AND DOES ONLY COMPUTER BASED MIXING


Posted by Nobbie Q on Jan-06-2009 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by El K Dee
why did this become a discussion about djs vs. producers?

the reason deadmau6 doesnt call himself a dj is because HE DOESNT USE CDS OR VINYL AND DOES ONLY COMPUTER BASED MIXING


I think the fact that he uses most of his own tracks might be something to do with it more than that.


But there's plenty of DJs who use computer based mixing. The medium doesn't matter, only the music. I mean comp based mixing makes beatmatching easier, but u still have to create a proper set and choose songs that make sense in the grand scheme of the journey.

I didn't want to derail the thread more, I know we have like 20 other threads on this issue but it just seems like everyone knocks off a dj for using a computer for mixing...even though the whole club is going insane because the music is so good regardless, which I don't think just switching to computer programs would help in the basic elements of doing a proper set.


Posted by Yohan on Jan-06-2009 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Nobbie Q
But there's plenty of DJs who use computer based mixing. The medium doesn't matter, only the music. I mean comp based mixing makes beatmatching easier, but u still have to create a proper set and choose songs that make sense in the grand scheme of the journey.

I didn't want to derail the thread more, I know we have like 20 other threads on this issue but it just seems like everyone knocks off a dj for using a computer for mixing...even though the whole club is going insane because the music is so good regardless, which I don't think just switching to computer programs would help in the basic elements of doing a proper set.

I dont think people are angry because people are switching to computer mixing.

I think a lot of people are annoyed because people switch to computer mixing as an easy way out, and being lazy.

I don't have problem with people using ableton or traktor or whatever to be more creative and enhance their sets.

I have problem with people using ableton just to play one track after another and that's it.

DJing is a craft, and good ones put in years of effort just to get their art to the level that is above and beyond the average DJ.

People taking shortcuts just to call themselves a 'DJ' and to make a quick buck... ugh


Posted by Nobbie Q on Jan-06-2009 22:46:

I see what you mean. Yeah if you're just using shit like Traktor and Ableton and just playing one song after another than I agree that's a bit ridiculous...why not do more layering and effects a al Richie Hawtin?

I personally use a small program called DSS DJ. It's simple and doesn't have a lot of options but has basic beatmatching, pitch control (although if two songs are pitched up or down too extremeley the autobeat match suffers and you have to manually adjust it all the fucking time which is a pain in the ass using a mouse as it takes away from playing around with the EQs when mixing!)

There's also flanger effects and echo as well...I find the echo feature really enhances a breakdown, and there's reverb too which is good for techno'ish tracks but can get annoying quick. But yeah I just DJ for my radio show and it does the job. I wish I had three decks so I can keep some percussion going from the song before and then drop an entirely new song when mixing out...ooohh shiiit.


Posted by LKD on Jan-07-2009 00:54:

*yawn*


ONLY DEADMAU5!!


Posted by djks74 on Jan-07-2009 02:09:

NO!!! Only Me......... hueheuheueueuee.....

who said that???


Posted by VDub on Jan-07-2009 03:05:

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
I am not saying DJing/mixing is a piece of cake. But I don't think you can really compare it to producing in terms of difficulty/skill needed.


Well then I really recommend that you educate yourself by watching a top notch DJ doing his/her work...

It's amazing to watch...


Do I have to put up the Purpose Maker video???


Posted by VDub on Jan-07-2009 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan


I think a lot of people are annoyed because people switch to computer mixing as an easy way out, and being lazy.



^^^^^


Posted by teufel-man on Jan-07-2009 03:36:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
Well then I really recommend that you educate yourself by watching a top notch DJ doing his/her work...

It's amazing to watch...


Do I have to put up the Purpose Maker video???


Whoopdy do, some DJs do really advanced and difficult things... I never knew that before, thanks for filling me in.


Posted by VDub on Jan-07-2009 12:02:

quote:
Originally posted by teufel-man
Whoopdy do, some DJs do really advanced and difficult things... I never knew that before, thanks for filling me in.


Well...

That's a mature response...


Posted by Dave Akermanis on Jan-07-2009 14:25:

eff this retarded masturbation-fest of a thread.


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