TranceAddict Forums (www.tranceaddict.com/forums)
- Sports Discussion
-- Formula 1 - 2009 season
Pages (11): « 1 2 [3] 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 »

w00t, back to 20 cars on the grid. Brawn GP is the new Honda

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlin...306083721.shtml

^ Good for Brawn! He's always been a class act and I have high hopes for his team to do well this year. not quite sure why they snubbed Senna though. I would have taken Senna and Rubens and ditched Button.

I think this will be the year of the "privateer" or otherwise mid-pack team. Force India, Williams, BrawnGP and one or both of the Red Bull teams: I have a good feeling that one or more of these will really surprise the likes of McLaren, Ferrari, Renault and BMW.

everyone says the field will be very close. All the pundits also predict Ferrari will be fast, and so will Renault Toyota BMW Williams Red Bull and Mclaren. They also say Force India will be a mid field runner.
What I wanna know who will be the back marker since everybody rates the field that way ? cause according to them, there will be no back markers this year

Good point, Stren.

I think that's the cool thing leading up to this season. Nobody knows who will start fast or who will get it wrong.

I think the season will only really start to take shape once everyone has their KERS running - probably by the 4th or 5th race.

LETS SEE IF THIS WORKS

..nm cant seem to embed, but this is awesome..

http://www.kontraband.co.uk/videos/...un-Racing/#show

yeah pretty awesome. Good thing Lewis didn't crash it like that, or maybe it would actually help
JK, i'm sure Mac will get over their problems

BTW.
noikeee, seem like you should update the first post with new pics

Helluva start for BrawnF1!!!

Great testing reliability and pace.

I have good hopes for them in Australia. But hey, I'm a sucker for underdogs

underdogs no more. I just can't believe they're 1 second ahead of the pack which is so tight, how could so many teams get it so wrong ? smells fishy.

I predict/hope for Ferrari domination.

And when the hell is schumi coming back

stop living in the past. I hope none team will dominate this year.

ahh, i hope mclaren wins every race


but thats not gonna happn

McLaren's completely fucked, Brawn probably has the best car for real.

I'll update the first post when I can be arsed.

quote:

Originally posted by noikeee McLaren's completely fucked, Brawn probably has the best car for real. I'll update the first post when I can be arsed.

i want to throat punch you

televised practice in a little bit


finally, its back!

Thankfully the diffuser protest has been squashed and put the the appeals protest.

This is what I can't stand about the sport. So one team used an interpretation of the rules and caught you with your pants down. Suck it up, and do better next time. The big boys got out-designed by the little guys.

If all the cars should be built to the same spec, go race GP2 or F1GP ffs.

Wow!!!

Great qualifying!!! I won't spoil it for anyone who wasn't up to watch it though.

I reaffirm my burning hate for those external wheelie covers, which now have even bigger brake ducting. They look stupid. Please stop.

Any idea why Hamilton didnt go out for Q2?

quote:

Originally posted by nchs09 Any idea why Hamilton didnt go out for Q2?

Gearbox was a box of neutrals according to the BBC coverage.

They're changing it for the race and taking grid position hits, but since he was already pretty far back it didn't really hurt them any more than they are already suffering.

Both Toyota's excluded from quali due to flexible rear wing elements. I guess Hamilton won't start from DFL anymore, but he will be challenged to keep the faster Toyota's behind him.

lol mclaren for the lose.....


i hope they win, but that does not look possible this race :/

^ lol yeah, not looking good for them at all. Reminds me of the late 90's when they completely skipped a year of design evolution because it sucked so bad. What was it, the MP4-19?

Mclaren already moving up the field ! Finally Lewis will get to race his mate Sutil.
I'm worried Brawn advantage will lead to a complete domination

^ Please tell me that the "Brawn Advantage" doesn't mean their diffusers...

F1 is about innovation. If it's not explicitly outlawed in the rules, why not allow it?

3 teams have made use of the gray area of the diffuser rules and they all are quick. Now, the rest of the teams are scrambling to apply the design to their cars in the event they are declared legal by the FIA council.

The big budget teams (other than Toyota) are just bitter that they didn't do this themselves.

Looking at the qualifying times, the top of the field was all within 1 second and change, and who knows what fuel strategies anyone is on.

quote:

Originally posted by pmoisse ^ Please tell me that the "Brawn Advantage" doesn't mean their diffusers... F1 is about innovation. If it's not explicitly outlawed in the rules, why not allow it? 3 teams have made use of the gray area of the diffuser rules and they all are quick. Now, the rest of the teams are scrambling to apply the design to their cars in the event they are declared legal by the FIA council. The big budget teams (other than Toyota) are just bitter that they didn't do this themselves.

I mean the overall package. Difusser is worth 0.2-0.5 sec. their advantage is about 0.7 sec so its not just that.
I'm not arguing the difussers are illegal either, brilliant work on exploiting the loophole.
I'm sure similar difussers will be on every car sooner or later, but I doubt it will be as beneficial as it is to Brawn, who built a car around it.

quote:

Looking at the qualifying times, the top of the field was all within 1 second and change, and who knows what fuel strategies anyone is on.

The answer is, everybody:

Weight of the cars with fuel:

1. Jenson Button, Brawn GP, 664.5kg
2. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn GP, 666.5
3. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull, 657
4. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber, 650
5. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 657
6. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 654
7. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 655.5
8. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 662
9. Nick Heidfeld, BMW Sauber, 691.5
10. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 680.7
11. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 690.6
12. Nelson Piquet, Renault, 694.1
13. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India 689
14. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 612.5
15. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso, 675.5
16. Adrian Sutil, Force India, 684.5
17. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 662.5
18. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren, 655
19. Timo Glock, Toyota, 670
20. Jarno Trulli, Toyota, 660


http://www.fia.com/public/f1_media/...document_43.pdf

quote:

Originally posted by stren I mean the overall package. Difusser is worth 0.2-0.5 sec. their advantage is about 0.7 sec so its not just that. I'm not arguing the difussers are illegal either, brilliant work on exploiting the loophole. I'm sure similar difussers will be on every car sooner or later, but I doubt it will be as beneficial as it is to Brawn, who built a car around it.

Agreed!! (sorry, wasn't sure which side of the fence you were on )

The Brawn design is so brilliantly clean. I'm happy to see the Williams up front too.

It will be interesting seeing how the Toyota's work their way through the back of the field too.

Nice find on the starting weights too!

Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright © 2000-2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.