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Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-15-2009 17:28:

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Originally posted by Lemonad
I get what your trying to say but i don't think you understand what the sanctions put on Iran have done to it.

i agree that it doesn't help iranians.

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Originally posted by Lemonad
You can't possibly say that anyone that gets taught in America has better potential. If Iran didn't have sanctions and had the level of education that was in America, it could probably be building stuff on the moon by now.

it's just stupid for you to say that solely because of someone's geographical origin they have more potential. all else equal, someone born in china, england, the US, or iran has the same potential. It's all those other factors (political, educational opportunities, etc...) that result in the achievement of that potential.

In any event, if iranians were so much smarter than americans, perhaps the people and the country would create an economic environment that was conducive to economic prosperity of which you think they are capable. their current situation is only the fault of the iranian government. Americans don't have to trade with Iran; it's as simple as that. It seems like America is an easy scape goat for the country achieving far less than you think it is capable.

Posted by tathi on Feb-16-2009 01:35:

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Originally posted by jerZ07002
i agree that it doesn't help iranians.

it's just stupid for you to say that solely because of someone's geographical origin they have more potential. all else equal, someone born in china, england, the US, or iran has the same potential. It's all those other factors (political, educational opportunities, etc...) that result in the achievement of that potential.

have you read the book i seen the doco Guns, Germs, and Steel? fascinating but more about the origins of civilisation and why it began it the middle east and not in papua new guinie - two reasons, cereal crops and beasts of burden...highly recommended!

Posted by Damerchi on Feb-16-2009 02:26:

yeah, fascinating read. since the movement of people amongst the latitude allowed them to get familiar crops, they raped the native americans in advancement. not to mention the immunity they got by closely working with domesticated animals. Steel is also an art that is a very fine balancing act that took many years to perfect-toledo spain is somewhere people should visit atleast once!
Lemonad, it'd good to be proud of your people, but you have to see it for what it is. The U.S. played a large role in nurturing mr. naderi.
avoid thinking"My DNA is better than your DNA, but sanctions are holding me back!"

Posted by jerZ07002 on Feb-16-2009 15:58:

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Originally posted by tathi
have you read the book i seen the doco Guns, Germs, and Steel? fascinating but more about the origins of civilisation and why it began it the middle east and not in papua new guinie - two reasons, cereal crops and beasts of burden...highly recommended!

i have read excerpts of it. I've also read other articles on the same issue (although that was many years ago when i was still an undergrad).

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