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Originally posted by Orbital32 You need a background check to get a gun. Did you have a background check when you got your car?

I'm sure they checked to see if I was eligible to to have a drivers license. They also checked to make sure I could drive.

Did they check to see if you could shoot a gun in a safe manner? Something as simple as an eyesight exam, for example?

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Originally posted by narcism 43 degrees on saturday dancing in the sun im going to be packing the heat & defying the g'ment and their water restriction laws with this mofo

haha, awesome. remember not to fill it with juice!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN haha, awesome. remember not to fill it with juice!

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Originally posted by Sushipunk I'm sure they checked to see if I was eligible to to have a drivers license. They also checked to make sure I could drive. Did they check to see if you could shoot a gun in a safe manner? Something as simple as an eyesight exam, for example?

I'm sure they did not call the FBI to verify if you were able to drive, which by federal law is what any firearm dealer has to do.

By the way, yes you can buy a car with no license. As long as licensed driver is with you and the car is insured by the time you leave the lot. Which is unlike buying a gun. Only the person getting the background check is the only person allowed to buy a gun.

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Originally posted by Orbital32 I'm sure they did not call the FBI to verify if you were able to drive, which by federal law is what any firearm dealer has to do. By the way, yes you can buy a car with no license. As long as licensed driver is with you and the car is insured by the time you leave the lot. Which is unlike buying a gun. Only the person getting the background check is the only person allowed to buy a gun.

Are you serious or taking a piss?

I really cant tell, but it makes me laugh that he is comparing a vehicle to a gun.

can i ask why you have that much heat in the first place? just out of curiosity.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 can i ask why you have that much heat in the first place? just out of curiousity.

Because its his God given right as an American.. FUCK YA!

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Originally posted by nchs09 Because its his God given right as an American.. FUCK YA!

well yes, aside from the second amendment

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Originally posted by Orbital32 Only the person getting the background check is the only person allowed to buy a gun.

lol.

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Originally posted by trunks1022 can i ask why you have that much heat in the first place? just out of curiousity.

Sure. I was in the military so i am trained with weapons. I currently work with the federal government. All my friends work either the police department, Border Patrol, or some other federal agency. They all have their own personal weapons. Everybody enjoys shooting at targets, so i got into it.

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Originally posted by Orbital32 I'm sure they did not call the FBI to verify if you were able to drive

No, they didn't call the federal police to see if I could drive. They had a qualified examiner TEST ME. Clever of them, I know.

to be honest, if i lived in the US id have more guns than orbital has currently. i love guns

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Originally posted by Orbital32 I was in the military so i am trained with weapons.

Ok, it's good that you were trained, I wasn't sure. I'll ease up

I'm curious to know then: What's your opinion regarding the easy sale of deadly weapons to 'untrained' civilians in your country?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN haha, awesome. remember not to fill it with juice!

i wouldn't even think about it

try killing something with a knife. it gives you a different perspective on death when you have to feel a living thing dying and you can't simply shot and look away: pussies!

once i get restricted firearm license, planning to get an M4 and a Glock17

once you've shot a rocket launcher though, rifles just dont get the adrenaline going as much anymore

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 try killing something with a knife. it gives you a different perspective on death when you have to feel a living thing dying and you can't simply shot and look away: pussies!

settle down locke

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Originally posted by Yohan once i get restricted firearm license, planning to get an M4 and a Glock17 once you've shot a rocket launcher though, rifles just dont get the adrenaline going as much anymore

If i bought a gun, i would buy the g36e or an f2000


But i have no need to buy one so no thx!

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 try killing something with a knife. it gives you a different perspective on death when you have to feel a living thing dying and you can't simply shot and look away: pussies!

...the next day, jerz took out an entire floor of tax attorneys.

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Ok, it's good that you were trained, I wasn't sure. I'll ease up I'm curious to know then: What's your opinion regarding the easy sale of deadly weapons to 'untrained' civilians in your country?

Here it is left up to the individual states on how somebody guys a weapon. In CA, you do have to have a license to buy a concealable weapon. They also have a waiting period as well. They also restrict the sale of "assault" type weapons as well. concealable weapons have to be registered, but rifles and shotguns do not.

I live in Arizona. We have the most relax gun laws in the country. anybody who passes a background check is allowed to walkout with any weapon in a matter of minutes. Arizona allows the sale of "assault" type weapons (semi only) and the possession/transfer of "machine gun" type weapons. No weapons have to be registered.

I believe that all weapons should be registered with the government. I personally don't care if they ban assault type weapons either. I don't believe that they have to tested to make sure they know how to shoot. A dealer should make sure that a person knows how to check to see a weapon is loaded, how to clear a weapon, how to put a weapon on safe, and how to lock the weapon so that childern can not activate it. Maybe even sign some documentation to state that it was done.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 try killing something with a knife. it gives you a different perspective on death when you have to feel a living thing dying and you can't simply shot and look away: pussies!

I saw my mother get shot in the head and die right in front of me. I don't blame the gun. I blame the person.

Killing somebody or seeing somebody die is not what i call "cool".

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Originally posted by Orbital32 Here it is left up to the individual states on how somebody guys a weapon. In CA, you do have to have a license to buy a concealable weapon. They also have a waiting period as well. They also restrict the sale of "assault" type weapons as well. concealable weapons have to be registered, but rifles and shotguns do not. I live in Arizona. We have the most relax gun laws in the country. anybody who passes a background check is allowed to walkout with any weapon in a matter of minutes. Arizona allows the sale of "assault" type weapons (semi only) and the possession/transfer of "machine gun" type weapons. No weapons have to be registered. I believe that all weapons should be registered with the government. I personally don't care if they ban assault type weapons either. I don't believe that they have to tested to make sure they know how to shoot. A dealer should make sure that a person knows how to check to see a weapon is loaded, how to clear a weapon, how to put a weapon on safe, and how to lock the weapon so that childern can not activate it. Maybe even sign some documentation to state that it was done.

From my perspective, all of that still seems like a remarkably easy way to procure a deadly weapon. This is to say nothing of the fact that this 'ease' would be fueling an enormous black market for guns.

I'm not naive enough to think that there are no guns in Australia, despite our strict firearm laws, but here it's FUCKING hard for some some unstable weirdo to just go out and buy a device that could end multiple lives within seconds. Legally purchased, or otherwise.

I just think there is no necessity for guns

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Originally posted by Orbital32 I saw my mother get shot in the head and die right in front of me. I don't blame the gun. I blame the person. Killing somebody or seeing somebody die is not what i call "cool".

Ok, that's pretty fucking intense.

Do you feel no anger, though, at the people who made that firearm accessible to that particular guy? The government's lax gun laws? From a situation like that, you should be more anti-gun than anyone, but you seem to have embraced gun culture as acceptable, knowing what the potential results can be?

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Originally posted by Sushipunk From my perspective, all of that still seems like a remarkably easy way to procure a deadly weapon. This is to say nothing of the fact that this 'ease' would be fueling an enormous black market for guns. I'm not naive enough to think that there are no guns in Australia, despite our strict firearm laws, but here it's FUCKING hard for some some unstable weirdo to just go out and buy a device that could end multiple lives within seconds. Legally purchased, or otherwise. I just think there is no necessity for guns

We cannot do that here, due to the second amendment. It part of our bill of rights that the people are allowed to own personal firearms. The chances of that overturned anytime in the near future is VERY VERY VERY slim. Of course there are people who lose those rights, say for example felons. I say this not because "GUNS...HELL YEAH" type of attitude, but because in reality the U.S. banning all guns will not happen.

The strictest enforcement that i can see is this: http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/

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Originally posted by Sushipunk Ok, that's pretty fucking intense. Do you feel no anger, though, at the people who made that firearm accessible to that particular guy? The government's lax gun laws? From a situation like that, you should be more anti-gun than anyone, but you seem to have embraced gun culture as acceptable, knowing what the potential results can be?

No i do not blame firearm laws. If the person wanted to kill my mom, they could have easily have done it with a knife, bat, or any other type of weapon. 99.99% I blame the person. 0.01% i blame the drugs.


I'm going to bed now. i have to wake up in 4 hrs. night.

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