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i just recently bough a mac mini just to see whether i could work on Mac OSX and Logic or if i hated it right away. The mac mini was too weak though to run Logic and Reason as good as i wanted (1,87GHz 1GB Ram, 80GB HD) but it seems i can use OSX and logic so therefore im saving for an imac myself. When also remote desktop works from mac i can use my PC as i fileserver/backup. Hackintosh route might work for some but it didnt for me, im not a PC wizard and if anything can wrong it will on me. I dont think u will regret on imac, while u might on mac pro if u choose that, id rather check out some more on hackintosh instead of going for mac pro caus theirs alot of shit in it u dont need (wtf Raid - what a peace of shit for home computers, its meant for critical servers only). Be sure to get the 24" its full HD

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Originally posted by palm Be sure to get the 24" its full HD

Yes. The screen is beautiful. Here's mine-

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Originally posted by palm i just recently bough a mac mini just to see whether i could work on Mac OSX and Logic or if i hated it right away. The mac mini was too weak though to run Logic and Reason as good as i wanted (1,87GHz 1GB Ram, 80GB HD) but it seems i can use OSX and logic so therefore im saving for an imac myself. When also remote desktop works from mac i can use my PC as i fileserver/backup. Hackintosh route might work for some but it didnt for me, im not a PC wizard and if anything can wrong it will on me. I dont think u will regret on imac, while u might on mac pro if u choose that, id rather check out some more on hackintosh instead of going for mac pro caus theirs alot of shit in it u dont need (wtf Raid - what a peace of shit for home computers, its meant for critical servers only). Be sure to get the 24" its full HD

A mac mini has well enough power to run logic, and a bunch of plugins.
But I agree, I would like to eliminate the need for more power. That idea
was utopic dream just a few years ago, so I think people nowadays are pretty
damn spoiled with cpu power. There ARE ways of saving cpu, just like we all did
until the duo cores came out.

Just my humble thoughts.

i hear u say it in many threads, would love to see how u do it when u freeze your tracks etc on that mini, i plan to try some more while saving money. have u done some settings in it caus mine is even slow just opening mozilla.

I don�t use freeze mush, because imo it is not as well implemented as I�d wish.
When you freeze a track, you�re not able to do any edits to any region of that track,
like moving regions around, loop, copy paste etc. JUST because of that, it�s pretty useless
for my use - because it takes a long time to freeze.
So what I do, is that when my cpu is reaching it�s limits, I stop adding synths - and rather
open a new project file where I import the track I have going. There I can play around with
other synths. When I have something I�m happy with, I bounce the stuff down, and import it
to my main project file. That�s how I�ve been doing things ever since I started out.
It can be pain in the ass, but It�s how I work. I wish you could record instrument tracks to audio files within the
project, that would make things easier for me. maybe in the next update.

edit: this is indeed possible! I just hadn�t tried it since 8.0, when it didn�t work for me, for some odd reason. This is a REALLY nice way to save cpu.

I have to say though, it takes a while before my cpu is getting a high hit. Maybe because of
my simple patches, and the plugins I use are cpu friendly. It�s takes a whole lot more
than when I used my dell laptop 2ghz core duo with cubase.

My mini is much slower now, as I�ve installed a bunch of stuff, but it is still far from slow here.
I don�t use mozilla, but safari opens up really quick at least.

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Originally posted by Beyer I wish you could record synth tracks to audio files within the project, that would make things easier for me. maybe in the next update.

If you are using Logic Pro 8, and I'm correctly assuming that by "synth" tracks you are referring to software instrument tracks, then you can do this. I do it all the time.

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Originally posted by palm i just recently bough a mac mini just to see whether i could work on Mac OSX and Logic or if i hated it right away. The mac mini was too weak though to run Logic and Reason as good as i wanted (1,87GHz 1GB Ram, 80GB HD) but it seems i can use OSX and logic so therefore im saving for an imac myself. When also remote desktop works from mac i can use my PC as i fileserver/backup. Hackintosh route might work for some but it didnt for me, im not a PC wizard and if anything can wrong it will on me. I dont think u will regret on imac, while u might on mac pro if u choose that, id rather check out some more on hackintosh instead of going for mac pro caus theirs alot of shit in it u dont need (wtf Raid - what a peace of shit for home computers, its meant for critical servers only). Be sure to get the 24" its full HD

how did you find using logic? you seem to be in the same situation as me.

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Originally posted by Eric J If you are using Logic Pro 8, and I'm correctly assuming that by "synth" tracks you are referring to software instrument tracks, then you can do this. I do it all the time.

Ok, it seems like I lack a lot of fundamental understandings in logic.
If you could please tell me how to do this, I�d be most grateful!
It might be very obvious, but I just can�t seem to get it to work.

whats the difference between logic pro 8 and logic express 8?

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Originally posted by Beyer Ok, it seems like I lack a lot of fundamental understandings in logic. If you could please tell me how to do this, I�d be most grateful! It might be very obvious, but I just can�t seem to get it to work.

I just set the output of the softsynth to a bus and then create an audio track that takes that same bus as an input.

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Originally posted by Eric J I just set the output of the softsynth to a bus and then create an audio track that takes that same bus as an input.

That�t exactly the way I�ve tried to do it.. Ok, one more try then. Thanks for helping!

edit: it must have been a bug or somthing in the 8.0 version. It works now! That�s really good news.

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Originally posted by sterilis how did you find using logic? you seem to be in the same situation as me.

sorry to early to say i havent had time setting myself into it.
the discussion above about recording internal is good tho and was what i was hoping.

Fuck Hackintosh, they're not worth the hassle or the equipment.

Compare it to an imac. By the time you add a screen of similar quality (best I've ever had), decent processor, decent ram, nice case (stunning in the imac), quiet fan, good quality DVD combo drive and all the other shit, you will be at near enough the same price of an Imac but you've just bought yourself a headache in terms of setup and future maintenance, which defeats the major selling point of a mac.

I got an imac 2.4ghz duo and I love it, and was up until a few months ago a logic hater. Now I love it (thanks to version 8 being so much more straightforward) and won't go back to FL/Acid/Cubase/etc.

The imac is great value, mainly for performance vs. cost, but also for design. It takes up so little space, makes virtually no noise (my external harddrive for backup is louder), and I never have to bother with maintenance & viruses. From opening the box to actually using it, was under 5mins, and only 20 mins to make music on it after that.

IF you're that worried about logic, go get a crash course, or just watch the vids on the net such as macprovideo or sflogicninja.

I don't get why some people "hate" DAWs. I think if you spend enough time with any of them you can learn to do good things...

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