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Posted by The17sss on Feb-24-2009 00:59:

glad to see you back on the HBO bandwagon, Jamie. Big Love is currently the best show playing right now IMO. Everything else is on re-runs. There have been like 6 episodes of this season now though, so maybe wait a couple more weeks until they start showing them all again from the start.

Actually, have you never watched the show before at all? Maybe rent the DVD's if you have time. I'd recommend starting from scratch to get into the characters. This season (3rd one I think) is particularly juicy


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2009 01:00:

battlestar galactica is still the best show ever written.


Posted by The17sss on Feb-24-2009 01:06:

the original you mean? I'm partial to the spin off show Buck Rogers from like 1980 with that little robot Twiki


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2009 01:18:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
the original you mean? I'm partial to the spin off show Buck Rogers from like 1980 with that little robot Twiki


haha, hell no. ok, i loved it as a kid but its just horrible when compared to the new one.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Feb-24-2009 01:22:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
battlestar galactica is still the best show ever written.


I absolutely love it, but that's just crazy man. Definitely shits all over anything primetime though (that's not named Lost).


Posted by The17sss on Feb-24-2009 01:25:

I have no experience with the new one at all so I can't say... but my guess is that special effects, acting, and writing of the show today blows away the one from back then.


Posted by infinity HiGH on Feb-24-2009 01:28:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
I have no experience with the new one at all so I can't say... but my guess is that special effects, acting, and writing of the show today blows away the one from back then.


I've never seen the original one, but I can't imagine how the original could be any deeper than the new one.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2009 01:36:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
I absolutely love it, but that's just crazy man. Definitely shits all over anything primetime though (that's not named Lost).


the only show i can think of that matches it for depth is the west wing, which i think is the second best show ever written


Posted by infinity HiGH on Feb-24-2009 04:24:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
the only show i can think of that matches it for depth is the west wing, which i think is the second best show ever written


Haven't seen the West Wing but these are the shows that are better than BSG in my opinion:

Carnivale, Lost, The Wire. In no particular order. Not trying to knock BSG though because it's like comparing 24K Gold to 12K Gold. It's all better than dog turd (which what everything else on TV is).

My main beef with BSG is the seemingly random plot twists at times. The whole "New Caprica" angle imo was just garbage. I realize that some critical story moments came out of it later on but as a whole that felt like such a waste of 6 episodes. And WTF happened with Baltar?? The guy was like...THE main character in the whole story for 2 or 3 seasons and now he's the leader of some all-female cult. Seriously...WHAT. THE. FUCK.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2009 04:45:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Carnivale, The Wire.


wanted to get into carnivale, but then lost enthusiasm when it was cancelled. ill begin season 3 of the wire tnite; its really good but it doesnt have any impact on me. i cant say i care about any of the characters or where the story goes.

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Lost


say it isn't so!

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
My main beef with BSG is the seemingly random plot twists at times.


agreed. sometimes their choices felt a little iffy to me. but honestly, consdering how many episodes of season 3 i thought were pretty damn average, im totally in love with 4.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Feb-24-2009 04:55:

Did anyone see this weeks episode of Big Love?


HOLY FUCKING SHIT@!�@#〜!


Posted by infinity HiGH on Feb-24-2009 05:04:

Carnivale: Yea I know what you mean. I was forced to watch it and it blew me the fuck away. It kills me that it was canceled after Season 2 but those 2 seasons were the best thing to ever grace television. I only wish they finished it because I hate coming up with theories as to what the whole plot would've been if they finished it. The whole thing was written to be 6 seasons apparently.

The Wire: You still have a long way to go, heh. I can't promise that you'll care about everything in it but it gets more engrossing as you progress in the series.

Lost: BSG's biggest weakness is Losts biggest strength. The writers for that show really perfected random plot twists into an art. That, and the character development is unrivaled. The Wire is the only one that compares imo.

As for BSG: One thing that really impressed me was when they revealed (spoiler warning) that Ellen was the 5th, which goes back alllllllll the way to season 1 when Baltar first tested her.

I wonder if they knew who all the Cylons were from the get-go or did they decide on the Final 5 (excluding Ellen) as they went along. I have a hard time believing that they intended to have Tyrol as a Cylon from the get-go.


Posted by The17sss on Feb-24-2009 05:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Did anyone see this weeks episode of Big Love?


HOLY FUCKING SHIT@!�@#〜!


Yeah... man talk about some mofukin drama! I can't imagine living in a family like that. haha. Next week's episode looks good too. I hope Albie gets busted for being a homo one of these days!


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Feb-24-2009 05:09:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Carnivale: Yea I know what you mean. I was forced to watch it and it blew me the fuck away. It kills me that it was canceled after Season 2 but those 2 seasons were the best thing to ever grace television. I only wish they finished it because I hate coming up with theories as to what the whole plot would've been if they finished it. The whole thing was written to be 6 seasons apparently.


well thanks for the tip, i might belatedly check it out (the same way i loved firefly even tho i knew there wouldnt be more). cheers!

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Lost: BSG's biggest weakness is Losts biggest strength. The writers for that show really perfected random plot twists into an art. That, and the character development is unrivaled. The Wire is the only one that compares imo.


we'll have to agree to disagree there. i watched lost for 2-3 seasons and in the end i got annoyed at the lack of pace re the plot. when its all finished and wrapped up though i might revisit it on dvd.

oh, and the greatest thing about BSG is the camera work! gets me hard just thinking about it


Posted by eROs.au on Feb-24-2009 05:16:

OZ!


Posted by biznology on Feb-24-2009 06:17:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
The Wire

end of story. how has this HBO masterpiece been overlooked so far? best tv show ever made.



HBO has had some great stuff... Deadwood was entertaining, tho incomplete imho. Showtime has had better things recently, but even those have started to tank a bit...


The Wire makes all other shows look foolish|


Posted by bamski on Feb-24-2009 14:50:

HBOz all the way.

And as posted above, The Wire is awesome, awesome indeed.


Posted by DaRoZa on Feb-24-2009 15:15:

oz is awesome. over the last couple months i watched the whole series on hbo on demand... the gritty/violent tone can be overdone at times but it really gets you thinking about the darker side of human nature and all kinds of sociological issues.. a lot of the characters are well done (yet some of the acting is just terrible)... you find yourself sympathizing for characters that are designed to be pure evil

i just started watching sopranos from the beginning.. not bad so far

summer heights high cracks me up.. especially how the jonah kid pronounces homo "hew-mew"


Posted by Scoops on Feb-24-2009 15:42:

HBO has consistantly had top programming on air for the past 25 years...

go back to 1983 and The Hitchhiker and Not Necessarily the News and even Fraggle Rock

then bring in 1st and 10, Dream On, Kids in the Hall, and Tales from the Crypt.

Then in the late 90s you had Arli$$, The Sopranos,

now theres Curb, Entourage and other great prgrams..

Showtime has 1 decent show, thats it.


HBO > Showtime


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Feb-24-2009 15:46:

quote:
Originally posted by biznology
Deadwood was entertaining, tho incomplete imho.


Totally incomplete, I really wish that they could have wrapped it up.


Posted by Slylee on Feb-24-2009 17:41:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
glad to see you back on the HBO bandwagon, Jamie. Big Love is currently the best show playing right now IMO. Everything else is on re-runs. There have been like 6 episodes of this season now though, so maybe wait a couple more weeks until they start showing them all again from the start.

Actually, have you never watched the show before at all? Maybe rent the DVD's if you have time. I'd recommend starting from scratch to get into the characters. This season (3rd one I think) is particularly juicy


yea i have and i really liked it a lot. it just started one night after supranos i think and i wasn't gonna watch it but i got suckede in and was really impressed w/ the acting/plot, etc...

the last i watched, the husband was showing an interest in the cute young brunette and the father of chloe' (dont know her character name, but the one whose father is really corrupt and creepy) was dying or sick or something...


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-02-2009 23:19:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
The Wire: You still have a long way to go, heh. I can't promise that you'll care about everything in it but it gets more engrossing as you progress in the series.


RIP Omar. *pkc absolutely gutted* the only character I really really loved. And he went out all boba fett-like


Posted by infinity HiGH on Apr-02-2009 23:59:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
RIP Omar. *pkc absolutely gutted* the only character I really really loved. And he went out all boba fett-like


Massive ep. His storyline leading up to his eventual death was amazing too. Especially that scene where he jumped out the window.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Apr-03-2009 00:03:

quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
Massive ep. His storyline leading up to his eventual death was amazing too. Especially that scene where he jumped out the window.


the one problem with the wire (for me) was the lack of larger-than-life heroes, and he's pretty much the only character i give a fuck about

not all that excited by the remaining episodes now. its like watching star wars without darth vader. i understand what the writers were doing etc, but im still totally gutted. im now a huge michael williams fan though


Posted by chach on Apr-03-2009 04:51:

quote:
Originally posted by eROs.au
OZ!
seriously I just became obsessed with this show


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