The continuing hate for Ableton DJs

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Posted by david.michael on Feb-24-2009 21:25:

quote:
Originally posted by palm
id love to see them use tapedecks. vinyl is dead and so is software. with tapedecks you can put whatever u like on them, and u can say prepare two or three tracks before your night and then u can have more time ruin the mixers unused channels or walking around interacting with the crowd.

Posted by hakudoshi on Feb-24-2009 21:48:

when i go anywhere i am there to listen to the music, not sit there and watch how the dj is mixing it. i could care less if he was banging around 20 trashcans if it sounded good then who cares where the music is coming from.

embrace technology. its only going to get more advanced

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-24-2009 21:55:

Apparently there's some hate for Ableton producers as well:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=48&s=

Posted by jupiterone on Feb-24-2009 22:23:

people seem to like the idea of a dj more than they do the actual dj itself

remember when we were having this same discussion about CDJ's a few years back? welp, same thing

Posted by Steve Evets on Feb-24-2009 23:31:

Nothing wrong with Ableton DJs as long as they play good tracks. Who the fuck stares at a DJ the whole gig anyhow? If I wanted to do that I'd just sit at home watching YouTube clips all day and save myself the energy.

Posted by Ted Promo on Feb-24-2009 23:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Steve Evets
Nothing wrong with Ableton DJs as long as they play good tracks. Who the fuck stares at a DJ the whole gig anyhow? If I wanted to do that I'd just sit at home watching YouTube clips all day and save myself the energy.

What energy would you save because you'd be fapping a lot.

Posted by Steve Evets on Feb-25-2009 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Ted Promo
What energy would you save because you'd be fapping a lot.

At least it'd be fapping to pron as opposed to fapping to a man spinning vinyl.

Posted by Max Thomson on Feb-25-2009 05:54:

quote:
Originally posted by winston
serato > ableton

thats a pretty ignorant, idiotic statement considering serato is a DVS and ableton is designed to perform live electronic music (crazy I know, its not all about the 1 fucking dj you saw who was using ableton).

hipsters and there generalizations...

Posted by Clovis on Feb-25-2009 20:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Max Thomson

hipsters and there generalizations...

Incredibly ironic.

Posted by Light The Fuse on Feb-26-2009 05:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
people seem to like the idea of a dj more than they do the actual dj itself

remember when we were having this same discussion about CDJ's a few years back? welp, same thing

yep - i find it amusing that kids these days are saying things like "id rather stick to good old cdj's than cheat with abletronz...

like 4 years ago it was the same except - "id rather stick with good old vinyl than cheat with cdj's....

its retarded and i find most of the complainers are the ones who cant be bothered or are too stupid or stubborn to learn how to use abletr0nz..

its the sound that comes outta the speakers - nothing else

Posted by kadomony on Feb-26-2009 06:24:

for me its a cost issue.
i'm considering getting a laptop/midi controller/external audio card in the future, and with that i can use ableton to dj (more creatively), produce on it (on the go no less), browse the internet, and more, all from one device.

a lot more cost effective imo than getting cdjs, a mixer, all the cables, CDs (and the time spent burning/labelling them), and still wanting to get a laptop for on-the-go activities.

Posted by TranceOwnsLol on Feb-26-2009 09:54:

using BPM readers on CDJs is cheating.

Posted by Trance-M on Feb-26-2009 11:45:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceOwnsLol
using BPM readers on CDJs is cheating.

Easy fix: With Autosync you don't need them

Posted by jupiterone on Feb-27-2009 00:13:

a dj that plays absolutely shit music even if he's using all the most sophisticated techniques with turntables and a mixer or a dj that uses ableton and plays fucking smashing tunes...hmmm.....which to choose?

seriously, even though it's considered an art form to do some amazing tricks with the conventional dj tools, there is no substitution for good music

it's like watching santana shredding the fuck out of a guitar with an entire symphony orchestra and a tribe of ancient mayans playing flutes, it still sucks if it sounds like this

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-27-2009 01:50:

quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
it's like watching santana shredding the fuck out of a guitar with an entire symphony orchestra and a tribe of ancient mayans playing flutes, it still sucks if it sounds like this

Geez, what a load of crap that was.

Posted by EddieZilker on Feb-27-2009 02:07:

quote:
quote:
Originally posted by jupiterone
it's like watching santana shredding the fuck out of a guitar with an entire symphony orchestra and a tribe of ancient mayans playing flutes, it still sucks if it sounds like this
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Geez, what a load of crap that was.

It was as painful as it was embarrassing. I hope they recovered that train-wreck and turned it into something half-way listenable.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-27-2009 02:10:

The video is a joke. Someone dubbed over it with a deliberately terrible medley.

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-27-2009 02:18:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The video is a joke. Someone dubbed over it with a deliberately terrible medley.

Ha! Guess I'm not very astute tonight...

Posted by jupiterone on Feb-27-2009 02:34:

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Feb-27-2009 03:08:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Ha! Guess I'm not very astute tonight...

I didn't figure it out, I just read it on the Youtube comments. I followed the link at the end because I couldn't believe Santana would play such shit and wanted to see the story behind it.

Posted by EddieZilker on Feb-27-2009 03:15:

quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
The video is a joke. Someone dubbed over it with a deliberately terrible medley.

You know, I thought the applause sounded a little canned and the audience a little too eager to appreciate anything.

I have been trolled!

Posted by whiskers on Feb-27-2009 03:59:

boring? djs?

what the fuck. just drink more/pop more E and get back to dancing/groping women.

you're not here to look at the DJ manhandling records, are you?

Posted by Sykonee on Feb-27-2009 12:40:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
You know, I thought the applause sounded a little canned and the audience a little too eager to appreciate anything.

I have been trolled!

There's a whole series of 'shreds' out there. A lot of them are crap, but this one for Creed is brilliant!

Posted by david.michael on Feb-27-2009 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
There's a whole series of 'shreds' out there. A lot of them are crap, but this one for Creed is brilliant!

Fuck.

Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Feb-27-2009 14:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
There's a whole series of 'shreds' out there. A lot of them are crap, but this one for Creed is brilliant!

[Got any other great ones like that?]

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