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here's mine, decided to use Zebra2.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/4dsmhx

edit: i decided to NOT add EQ on the high end to copy the virus TI's software-like thin sounding noise generating digital cold filter!

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Originally posted by LfmC Yeah.. andromeda is on the wishlist. But it's lack of polyphony sucks. Not to mention hearing of all the faulty units many have problems with..

Lack of polyphony? It has 16 voices! If you want a lack of polyphony, get a mono synth. :P

Only one batch has the tuning problem you're thinking of... I think they were manufactured around 2006.

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Originally posted by alanzo Lack of polyphony? It has 16 voices! If you want a lack of polyphony, get a mono synth. :P Only one batch has the tuning problem you're thinking of... I think they were manufactured around 2006.

Well 16 voices might be ok for some1 who likes bouncing to wav a lot, but I've got a completely live, render free studio working so 16 just doesn't cut it. Maybe one day when I've got 10 HW synths... for now I'd rather go for the waldorf Q+ or stromberg.. Is there some unofficial VST editor for andromeda? Like for nords and blofeld?

Some more clips for you to think about :

Sylenth-1 : This time with delay (no one else seems to have done that)
Sylenth 1 with Delay
Sylenth 1, No Delay

Albino 3:
Albino 3 with Delay
Albino 3, No Delay

Sylenth clip sound very close to the original virus clip. I urge you to A/B them in a program like ableton; sync them up and use the cross fader to switch between them.

At the lowest filter setting they do sound a bit different, but really, can you honestly say one sounds *better* than the other? Yeah, sure, there's personal preference, but don't try to tell me that the Virus sounds "miles better" than the Sylenth... They are different synths so they are bound to sound different. The virus has more body but the sylenth is more airy (feel free to interpret these words as you like )

Albino doesn't come as close, though, but still does a good job.

Well, I think Sylenth and Albino both sound just as good.

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Originally posted by echosystm Well, I think Sylenth and Albino both sound just as good.

"Then your ears must not be working right, hur hur!"

Sylenth does a very good job.

The virus and THOR on the first page...sound utterly identical, save that one is louder than the other. given the same volume, no one unbiased would say they sound different.

What would be better is if someone who owned Virus aswell as Z3ta or such made the same exact sound on both synths, and posted them, without telling anyone which was which, then everyone does a poll to which sounds better, than said artist reveals which is which.

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Originally posted by Subtle Sylenth does a very good job.

excuse me but

already won, thread closed.

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Originally posted by cronodevir What would be better is if someone who owned Virus aswell as Z3ta or such made the same exact sound on both synths, and posted them, without telling anyone which was which, then everyone does a poll to which sounds better, than said artist reveals which is which.

This has been done a million times and the end result is always the same: 50% wrong, 50% right (hypothesis: on average, no one can tell the difference).

Anyway, the Sylenth example is so close I don't think anyone would be able to tell in a blind test... EVER.

the monitoring in this thread must be the equivalent to using paper cups with strings attached, the sylenth one is close but is too detuned (are you even listening to the dry ones?) zebra clearly wins hands down.

Point is, asking wether Virus or Z3ta sounds better than the other is like asking if Blue is a better color over Red What is good or bad in the scene and in the clubs does not designate what everyone likes or dislikes.

Anyone who asks if hardware sounds better than software or vice versa, has seriously midunderstood the purpose of music. And probably shouldn't be here.

Heres mine. http://www.sendspace.com/file/vj499g

Do an A/B to the virus, the overall sound isn't the same because I didn't automate the filter the same way. But if you listen at the end when the oscillators not actually running through the filter, its pretty similar.

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Originally posted by kitphillips Heres mine. http://www.sendspace.com/file/vj499g Do an A/B to the virus, the overall sound isn't the same because I didn't automate the filter the same way. But if you listen at the end when the oscillators not actually running through the filter, its pretty similar.

Is this albino ?

It doesnt sound pretty decent.

But i dont think any of the samples posted so far sounds better than the first sample with delay.

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Originally posted by Subtle But i dont think any of the samples posted so far sounds better than the first sample with delay.

Yeah, all in all i have to agree, thor came the closest but it was still lacking flavor.

Fully support the TI, if there was one piece of hardware i would be buy it would that, or maybe something by dave smith.

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Originally posted by Subtle Is this albino ? It doesnt sound pretty decent. But i dont think any of the samples posted so far sounds better than the first sample with delay.

massive actually. Are you saying it does sound decent or doesn't?

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Originally posted by kitphillips massive actually. Are you saying it does sound decent or doesn't?

It sounds pretty good i think.
But not as good as my first sample.

How about you all use whatever (hardware, software, analog, sidechain, DISTRESSORS) to make a better sounding lead than my first sample.

I might try with Massive as well.

Right now I'm just demoing a bunch of synths with that Deadmau5 riff and the rising LP filter cutoff. I'll post a whole bunch of files soon and let people judge what they like best. It's kind of a fun way to test out how synths sound right next to each other anyway.

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Originally posted by cronodevir Point is, asking wether Virus or Z3ta sounds better than the other is like asking if Blue is a better color over Red What is good or bad in the scene and in the clubs does not designate what everyone likes or dislikes. Anyone who asks if hardware sounds better than software or vice versa, has seriously midunderstood the purpose of music. And probably shouldn't be here.

I disagree.
I think sound is percieved like beauty.

When you see a smoking hot girl there is usually an overwhelming consensus that will agree.
She has a certain hot signature to her appearance much like a Virus.
Than you get something like z3ta and its just some average 8 chick.

Vanguard more like a fat chick (I know some Vanguard lovers are gonna hate me but hey fat chicks need loving to)

Just because alot of people agree a girl is beautiful doesn't make it so. Pretty much every runway model out of Russia and Eurasia has been stanuchly underweight and creepy looking.

Beauty aswell as Pleasure [from music] is subjective.

Large chunks of the world population thinks one drug or another is great. That doesn't mean those drugs are great. Cocain isn't great, for instance.

I compared virus against thor, zebra 2, and sylenth1 in ableton and virus seems to be better than sylenth1 and thor, but zebra 2 was different. Virus had a smoother sound and zebra had much louder lows so I'm wondering if it's just a matter of EQing virus to match to equalize the perceived advantage of higher volume low freqs.

Assume for a moment that synth comes down to purely preference. What does it matter if synth A sounds better than synth B, if synth B is what most people hear in professional tracks? People will get used to a certain sound and will like tracks with that particular familiar sound.

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Originally posted by asdfg It'z the natural shape of the analog waveform

if you say so

here's zebra2 with delay

http://www.sendspace.com/file/qhottt

Okay, here are seven files, each with a different soft-synth doing the Deadmau5 riff:

Korg Mono-Poly VST: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/mono-poly-vst.mp3
Korg PolySix VST: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/polysixVST-2.mp3
Korg MS-20 VST: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/ms-20vst.mp3
impOSCar: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/impOSCar.mp3
Vanguard: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/vanguard.mp3
Pro-53: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/pro-53.mp3
Massive: http://jbj.raceriv.com/sounds/massive.mp3

A couple of the files have clicks or pops, so please excuse that. I re-did the envelope on the PolySix demo. The Vanguard clip has a bit much detuning. I don't think impOSCar is suited that well for this task, but I used it anyway because it's one of my favorite synths.



I think my personal favorite out of these might be the MS-20, really smooth at the bottom and gritty at the top. I also like the sound of the Mono-Poly. You can judge for yourselves, though.

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