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Originally posted by Barachem Again: Christian makes trance, so it's christian trance.

oh yeah, so if im black i can call my trance ****** trance because there is freedom of speech, still doesn't change the fact that its ridiculous,

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Originally posted by Barachem What are you blowing up for anyway? If you don't like the label, don't listen to it. For instance, if some satanist would label his or her music satanic trance, would i make a hissy fit about it? No, i'd just ignore it. I think you're just cross because you just can't stand the word christian put on it, because you can't stand anything reminding you of any belief. Your problem, you deal with it. If you don't like it, ignore it, like i ignore so many things i find offensive that are NOT especially targeted at me.

relax baby girl i'm bored so i felt like invading the forums elfreak style

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Originally posted by Barachem If you don't like it, ignore it, like i ignore so many things i find offensive that are NOT especially targeted at me.

well i'm glad my half ass post caught your attention to make you out type an essay for me wahahahah, i guesss there's something you like about my post, because you are failing to ignore my pretty post

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Originally posted by Barachem Addendum: You pose that "hey dude, you should convert to Christianity,", while nothing of that kind has been posted. You just ASSUME that christian producers say that.

yeah thats right i speculated with a narrow minded perspective to make christian trance producers look narrow minded by calling their trance christian trance instead of human trance, and what?

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Originally posted by Barachem There was nothing pushed unto you, no one gave you an PM with "hey dude, you should convert to Christianity, we have a special kind of trance called christian trance made by gods children & only for gods children!", no one asked you to convert in this thread.

taking my post serious much? as i said, i was merely fabricating a scenario, a biased one at that

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Originally posted by Barachem It's what i call acting like a moron. Your actions disgust me!

thx acting moronic is a hobbie for me cause i've already got the vision

damn you wrote a whole lot to counter my post which was oh so seriousssssss, let me guess, you're a christian and you were offended huh, ahahahahaha

I already did, I'm not surprised you can't see it. You're obviously not familiar with the concept of reductio ad absurdum

Didn't you know all of the biggest DJ's get their vocal samples from church

@ hundred & woscar: Black in that sense isn't an ideology, it's a term to describe a broad spectrum of people's skin colors.
Reductio ad absurdum works only when your and my axioms are the same.
My proposition works because i have as axiom that music of a certain ideology is meant by it's author to convey that ideology.
No problems with reductio ad absurdum.

@ hundred: Lying for effect?
Being a troll?
Best to ignore you from now on in this thread.

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Originally posted by Barachem Well, explain it to me. Show me where logic doesn't apply in my reasoning.

After my "Why is Tiesto so big?" experience I predict you won't get a decent answer here at Bashaddict

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Originally posted by Barachem ignore it. ignore it, like i ignore so many things. NOT ignoring it It's what i call acting like a moron.

ignorance makes corruption act freely.

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Originally posted by Barachem @ hundred & woscar: Black in that sense isn't an ideology, it's a term to describe a broad spectrum of people's skin colors. Reductio ad absurdum works only when your and my axioms are the same. My proposition works because i have as axiom that music of a certain ideology is meant by it's author to convey that ideology. No problems with reductio ad absurdum.

Do you realized that you just owned yourself?

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Originally posted by Barachem Well, explain it to me. Show me where logic doesn't apply in my reasoning.

Dude, genres are made to describe a collection of sounds and help with categorization. In that case, if "christian trance" doesn't have substantial musical (and not ideological or...religious rofl) differences from other types of trance, then it simply doesn't exist (or there is no need for a distinct existence).


If that was the case we would already have one million sub-sub-genres for any damn sub-genre out there since one could simply create a genre by just making a random national/ideological/gender/insert-random-cause statement. Now those sub-sub-genres wouldn't be very helpful in making one distinquish between trance and house would they?



Now son, stop drinking this fluorescent holly water because its not of god's damn!

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Originally posted by Barachem @ hundred: Lying for effect? Being a troll? Best to ignore you from now on in this thread.

ignorance is the reason why christians got away with killing other humans in the name of god, and now we have christian trance

ohh ohh ohhhhhh you'll come back for that one wont cha

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Originally posted by PETRAN Dude, genres are made to describe a collection of sounds and help with categorization. In that case, if "christian trance" doesn't have substantial musical (and not ideological or...religious rofl) differences from other types of trance, then it simply doesn't exist (or there is no need for a distinct existence). If that was the case we would already have one million sub-sub-genres for any damn sub-genre out there since one could simply create a genre by just making a random national/ideological/gender/insert-random-cause statement. Now those sub-sub-genres wouldn't be very helpful in making one distinquish between trance and house would they? Now son, stop drinking this fluorescent holly water because its not of god's damn!

I just listened to the first track Barachem posted. Fuck, I want my 3 minutes back

GUYS THERES THIS REALLY SICK CHRISTIAN TRANCE DJ HIS NAME IS CHRIS HARRINGTON MAN HES SO GOOD GUYS YOU HAVE TO SEE HIM LIVE

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Originally posted by iammesol GUYS THERES THIS REALLY SICK CHRISTIAN TRANCE DJ HIS NAME IS CHRIS HARRINGTON MAN HES SO GOOD GUYS YOU HAVE TO SEE HIM LIVE

I saw him post here before, but only found out about it until yesterday, lol.

This thread reminds me of one that got started on Keyboard Magazine's forum. I had a hand in its descent into error-ridden bickering when I made the assertion that Christian music was predominantly made up of childish musical phrases which appealed to minds that were subject to influence of totalitarian thought-control.

That thread didn't last through the weekend before it got deleted.

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Originally posted by iammesol GUYS THERES THIS REALLY SICK CHRISTIAN TRANCE DJ HIS NAME IS CHRIS HARRINGTON MAN HES SO GOOD GUYS YOU HAVE TO SEE HIM LIVE

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that made my day ahaha



IMHO i think most Christian trance (that i have heard) is crap (although i dislike most trance now days) there are some decent tracks from Christians (not necessarily Christian tracks, but tracks made by Christians) like Joel Armstrong, Shiloh, Andy Hunter, Stryke, and Topher Jones though.

A big up fo' tha Messiah



Double drop!

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Originally posted by woscar Do you realized that you just owned yourself?

Nope, and honestly i don't care anymore.

@ PETRAN: I see part of your point.
Well, let's make people here HAPPY by calling it trance made by christians.
That finally ok?
Can the trance unicorns finally stop mauling me?

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Originally posted by woscar I just listened to the first track Barachem posted. Fuck, I want my 3 minutes back

Hhmmmm...
I posted this track before in the production section and got one positive critique with some tips for improvement.
Would you be so kind as to post there what's bothering you about it?
Here's the link: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=509495

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Originally posted by EddieZilker This thread reminds me of one that got started on Keyboard Magazine's forum. I had a hand in its descent into error-ridden bickering when I made the assertion that Christian music was predominantly made up of childish musical phrases which appealed to minds that were subject to influence of totalitarian thought-control. That thread didn't last through the weekend before it got deleted.

But see, trolling isn't productive, it helps in getting threads closed.

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Originally posted by chris harrington IMHO i think most Christian trance (that i have heard) is crap (although i dislike most trance now days) there are some decent tracks from Christians (not necessarily Christian tracks, but tracks made by Christians) like Joel Armstrong, Shiloh, Andy Hunter, Stryke, and Topher Jones though.

I agree.
What makes me sad is that many christian producers want to emulate the "current" mainstream trance sound and feel instead of venturing into new and innovative territory.
Add to that most trance made by christians tends to lag behind current trance by one or two years, i'm speaking out of experience now, and that much of it is still relatively simpler and more archaic, it is no wonder much of it isn't appealing to the trance connoisseur.

Anyway, i think people have crapped up this thread too much.
Maybe best to let it die slowly.

who the fuck cares if the tranz is produced by a christian, muslim, sikh or hindu? Must be the mos stupid thing to care about.
But since you asked for it......

HERE IS SOME PROPER CHRISTIAN TRANZ!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvH_bseIGFU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgFZ-Wvur2w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBhOR0pExpU

In fact check out anything by E-Nomine. Very unique stuff.

left handed trance, ambidextrous trance, & right handed trance

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Originally posted by RebeL9 In fact check out anything by E-Nomine. Very unique stuff.

Now there's a name I haven't heard in years! What was that 'hit' of theirs that played 24/7 on Viva in the late 90's?



edit: nevermind, twas Vater Unser

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Originally posted by DuBam Now there's a name I haven't heard in years! What was that 'hit' of theirs that played 24/7 on Viva in the late 90's? edit: nevermind, twas Vater Unser

haha its quite cheesy but I actually like it. The german language adds to it!

E-Nomine, great stuff, really great stuff, even if very cheesy.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 The german language adds to it!

Hahaha, I know what you mean. I.e. Mo-Do - Eins, Zwei, Polizei

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Originally posted by hundred left handed trance, ambidextrous trance, & right handed trance

I prefer bisexual trance.

brb making some

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