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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced stupid mexicans having sex with pigs

I REEEEEALLY lol'd

On a serious note (kinda), my parents are visiting Canada in a week and have had some ppl here telling me they shouldnt go

Altho i'm not saying this is a joke of a "crisis", i still dont see why my parents should
cancel their trip after 13 confirmed cases in all of CAN

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Originally posted by exstasie So According to CNN... The first US Death has occurred in Texas. A 23-month old baby as passed away due to the Swine!!

Gosh, babies die from anything at that age! including Sudden Infant Death Syndrome

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Originally posted by Skipper I am quite familiar with walkerton, I actually did a day long case study IN walkerton on the whole crisis last year... but thanks for the link anyways I realize the parallels are not identical. I'm simply talking about ignoring a problem that seems irrelevant at first that ends up being huge. If the public were not made aware of this, in other words, if health officials knew people were getting this when they were travelling to Mexico and neglected to inform anyone about it because they didn't want to "overreact", and then there was a massive outbreak, I bet you wouldn't be on their side then. There is absolutely no harm in being cautious when you're talking about a global flu virus. Have you ACTUALLY been PERSONALLY affected by any of this?

Just because you did a one day case study, does not mean you learned everything there is to know about this problem, considering how big the posted study is, and the breathe of investigation.

That is the exact problem with comparing Warlkerton with this flu. The problem in Walkerton was not irrelevant, as there were mandated steps they were supposed to take against e-coli, which they did not. The problems were so well known, that policies were implemented on how to treat the water, if there is a consciously constructed policy, that is not a 'seemingly irrelevant' problem.

We have health travel advisories already, and the gov has notified the people through the appropriate channels. The level of caution is what some of are talking about.

Since when do you have to be personally affected by an event to comment on it?

If we all die due to swine flu, I'll buy you a coffee in hell, how does that sound? Until then I am going to continue to live my life, with the safe and healthy practices that I always live my life with. If you want to continue to debate this matter, please stop appealing to authority, and saying 'well they know better than you'. Interject some fact, and analysis.

babies elderly and infirm... the flu's usual victims... no? My grandma died of the flu. That didnt make world news!

What a 3 ring circus

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Originally posted by Orko Just because you did a one day case study, does not mean you learned everything there is to know about this problem, considering how big the posted study is, and the breathe of investigation.

I never said I learned everything. What I said was that I learned enough to conclude there were parallels between the two - I did not say the events were identical. Get that idea out of your head and then I'll take the time to continue the discussion further, but until then there's no point in arguing with someone who clearly misunderstands what you are trying to say.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 babies elderly and infirm... the flu's usual victims... no?

yup
last night on news at 11 they had a girl who brought the flu with her from Mexico - sure she's sick, but the symptons are exactly like of a regular flu
so I really think we should just treat it like a regular flu outbreak

this whole media panic is not doing anyone any good - my parents are losing they sleep over this, being so far away.. and God forbid I get a cold - I might be quarantened when I fly in few weeks

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Originally posted by Skipper Why don't you just admit that the folks at the WHO have a better sense of risk than you do? It's comical that you are so much more knowledgeable than they are. It's quite likely they know shit you don't. Accept it.

It's why the people at WHO are saying do not jump the gun, overreact, go crazy thinking it will blow up and just take precautions the same way you do when sick with the regular flu.

SARS was a huge lesson for me when it comes to not believing everything you see on TV. The overreaction on the news made it seem as if toronto was rotting from the core. Meanwhile life went on as usual. Im sure its the same in mexico save for a few hospitals and schools in the areas supposedly affected by it. I feel bad for mexico right now

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Originally posted by TheVrk Altho i'm not saying this is a joke of a "crisis", i still dont see why my parents should cancel their trip after 13 confirmed cases in all of CAN

that's because Canada is smaller than Croatia, and we all live over each other...

but seriously, lots of people in Europe don't grasp how big this territory is and how far the population is spread.

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Originally posted by Skipper Why don't you just admit that the folks at the WHO have a better sense of risk than you do? It's comical that you are so much more knowledgeable than they are. It's quite likely they know shit you don't. Accept it.

exactly. this is what drives me nuts about stupid threads like this.

yes, there is good cause to question authority. just because someone is an 'expert' doesn't mean their word is gospel. But WHO and other health officials didn't get to where they are by chance and they can't make decisions based on what happened with SARS or other issues that may or may not be relevant.

It's probably a safe bet that no one here has a fucking clue what goes into true risk assessment for something like this. Mutations may/may not respond to current treatment options, increased air travel making spread so much easier with each passing year, etc.

just becuase the media may blow something of proportion, it doesn't follow that there's NOTHING to be concerned about. I don't know if travel restrictions, shutting down schools, etc. is an overreaction or not. that's why we have public health agencies...to assess and recommend courses of action.

but hey...TAs know best! lol

is there a cure for the flu? this is what I'm confused the most about...

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