trance on z103... sign of things to come?

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Posted by Plavka on Jun-23-2002 21:47:

they didn't dump minimalistix, it was pumped like 70%. but that idiot dj hammer was screaming in the background that it's a horrible song trying to influence the vote. last week they even had 4 strings-take me away and it got pumped. as the pop cycle is on the decline, they have to turn to something and it's a hell of a lot better than hip hop or rock. it's when KIDS 92 starts to play trance is when we should start to worry.

Posted by Rev. Paroxyzm on Jun-23-2002 23:29:

That's not trance people.... it's Nu-EURO

:P

I dunno about you guys, but i've been hearing Cosmic Gate and Tracid Tracks in clubs for a while.. and these are clubs that are more well known for RnB and House.

The Gino-scene is... and has always been waaaaaay behind the times.

Posted by bodhichitta on Jun-24-2002 06:09:

The whole thing about people not liking hearing Trance on the radio is because of EGO.

Basically, they don't want their "secret" Trance to be heard by the mainstream because then the mainstream will be just as "good" as they are. By confining Trance to the underground, such people retain a false sense of security, a sense of "I'm better than the mainstream because I listen to intelligent music and not pop shit."

My $0.02.

Posted by CortexBomb on Jun-24-2002 16:51:

Re: Re: Hmmmmmmm.

quote:
Originally posted by quddha
Its a phase dude. Trust me, everyone goes through it. Some people grow out of it, and actually respect music for music, and not for the image. For some, music is life. Its a passion, they want to delve deeper, and learn more about it. FOr others, hey, its just something to listen to, look cool, be part of a clique, etc. To each their own. I ain't knockin either, since I've been on both sides.

I think this is a fair way of putting it but I also think a third factor exists...hearing a song repeatedly often influences your opinion on it. When you combine a willingness to be a fan of whatever gets airplay with a regular rotation a lot of people will end up actually liking the tune. Granted, they'll still be unwilling to delve any deeper into the scene but that's life I suppose

I think with the existence of the WWW and all of *this* that there's really less of an excuse to not be out there *looking* for more stuff though. I know when I first got into independent music in the mid 90's (at that point I was into Indie Rock...) I still wasn't online and depended on word of mouth for new music recommendations. I got to be friends with people working at my local music shop and talked with people at shows to get the scoop on different stuff I might dig on.

Once I got online I couldn't believe how much information there was for a music fan...my horizons expanded and I eventually got into the whole European dance music scene which would have been nigh impossible before then due to cost and lack of info alone.

I guess I look at the kids today who are growing up with the net and I have a harder time being sympathetic to their lack of curiousity about different kinds of music...we live at a time when new tunes are only a click of the maus away, why listen to commercial stuff that you don't really care for when you can dig into a scene you really like?

The amount of info also gives me hope...if a tune like the Sound of Goodbye gets some airplay then 97% of the people who hear it are going to leave it at that but the other 3% are going to look into finding more stuff like it and eventually join the wider scene.

Posted by Rev. Paroxyzm on Jun-25-2002 13:45:

The only thing that REALLY bothers me is....

ZEE ONE OH THREE

We're Canadian.... wait... wait...

I am not a Lumber Jack or a Fur Trader!
And I don't live in a Igloo or eat Blubber or own a Dog Sled!
And I don't know Jimmy, Sally or Suzie from Canada although I am certain they're really really nice!
I have a Prime Minister not a President!
I speak English and French not American, and I pronounce it "About," not "A Boot."
I can proudly sew my Country's Flag onto my back pack!
I believe in Peace Keeping not Policing, Diversity, not Assimilation, and that the Beaver is a truly Proud and Noble Animial!
A Touque is a Hat! A Chesterfield is a Couch!
And it is pronounced "Zed," not "Zee," but"Zed!"
Canada is the second largest Land Mass!
The First Nation of Hockey, and the best part of North America!
My Name is Joe, and I Am Canadian!

Posted by mute79 on Jun-25-2002 14:44:

^^^ one of the most pathetic commercials i've seen... *sigh*

anyhoo, back to the topic... as i've said in other previous threads about this topic, trance getting airplay can only benefit the almost non existant trance scene in toronto, in case you havent noticed, progressive house rules toronto :/ ... so yea, i'm all for it! i for one am tired of hearing joee, britney, nsync and shit like that day in and day out on the radio... ugh

Posted by Don on Jun-25-2002 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by bodhichitta
The whole thing about people not liking hearing Trance on the radio is because of EGO.

Basically, they don't want their "secret" Trance to be heard by the mainstream because then the mainstream will be just as "good" as they are. By confining Trance to the underground, such people retain a false sense of security, a sense of "I'm better than the mainstream because I listen to intelligent music and not pop shit."

My $0.02.

I am better than the mainstream...

Posted by mr. poopyhead on Jun-25-2002 23:34:

quote:
Originally posted by TranceGeek
^^^ one of the most pathetic commercials i've seen... *sigh*

pathetic is such a harsh word.... it wasn't THAT bad... it was pretty good, =P.

anyways, it was nice having such a heated debate without anyone flaming or being childish. but i guess everyone will have their opinions. i've said what i have to say... and i hope people can start lightening up towards the "newbies" in the trance scene. i just have ONE last thing to say here, then i'm done with all this.

its just MUSIC... that's all. take one song. take away all the genre classification, the scene politics, the status, the egos, and all you have is just a song. like it or leave it. forget what other people say, forget what's on the radio, forget what genre someone tried to classify a song in. just take it as a song and listen to it. its that simple. i see a lot of threads where people are ASHAMED to like certain songs for some reason or another (mostly cause its "cheese")... i say fuck that. listen to what YOU wanna listen to. listen to trance, rock, jazz, polka, or chinese opera, but listen to what YOU like, because YOU like it. conversely, hate a song becuase YOU hate it. not cause ferry corsten hates it, or the gino down the street likes it.

peace out. (sorry for the long rant... i was out in the sun for a very long time... me go LOCO, =P)

Posted by Endlesswave on Jun-26-2002 01:47:

Yepz.

quote:
Originally posted by mr. poopyhead

pathetic is such a harsh word.... it wasn't THAT bad... it was pretty good, =P.

anyways, it was nice having such a heated debate without anyone flaming or being childish. but i guess everyone will have their opinions. i've said what i have to say... and i hope people can start lightening up towards the "newbies" in the trance scene. i just have ONE last thing to say here, then i'm done with all this.

its just MUSIC... that's all. take one song. take away all the genre classification, the scene politics, the status, the egos, and all you have is just a song. like it or leave it. forget what other people say, forget what's on the radio, forget what genre someone tried to classify a song in. just take it as a song and listen to it. its that simple. i see a lot of threads where people are ASHAMED to like certain songs for some reason or another (mostly cause its "cheese")... i say fuck that. listen to what YOU wanna listen to. listen to trance, rock, jazz, polka, or chinese opera, but listen to what YOU like, because YOU like it. conversely, hate a song becuase YOU hate it. not cause ferry corsten hates it, or the gino down the street likes it.

peace out. (sorry for the long rant... i was out in the sun for a very long time... me go LOCO, =P)

Me agrees with 100% of what poopy said. Does that sound wierd or is it just me? And by the way Ian van Dahl is wicked tune wise (although the remixes are wayyyyyyyyy better!) I am also getting into breaks...anybody have MORE tunes to share breakwise? Ahem Neon...

Posted by infinity HiGH on Jun-26-2002 17:39:

Re: Yepz.

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave

Me agrees with 100% of what poopy said. Does that sound wierd or is it just me? And by the way Ian van Dahl is wicked tune wise (although the remixes are wayyyyyyyyy better!) I am also getting into breaks...anybody have MORE tunes to share breakwise? Ahem Neon...

talk to me next time you see me online

Posted by bluE_Neon on Jun-26-2002 21:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave

I am also getting into breaks...anybody have MORE tunes to share breakwise? Ahem Neon...

yup and pete wtf man! i gave you most of my breakS tunes lol

Posted by Mandrick_v on Jul-03-2002 17:11:

Rank 1 on Rank 7

HEy couple of days ago z103 played top 10 and RANK 1 - Awakenning was on # 7, and PPK - ressurection was 3......Trance tunes are in Canadian Top 10 Charts, when did that happen....well things are getting better. They play remix of sound of goodbye like 60 times a day...it is getting annoying though....Nopw they gonna play awakenning 60 times a day, like there is no other trance tunes...lol, anyway we are gettinhg closer and closer to the moment when trance will push R & B from canadian charts....

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