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Posted by dj_deltawye on Jun-20-2009 04:08:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
yeah ok.



Well, you can't really compare the two styles, they're too different. But as far as energy levels are concerned, you can't tell me that house is more energetic AND uplifting than hardstyle. To each his/her own though, i guess.


Posted by aflyonthewall on Jun-20-2009 04:14:

Clubs book and Djs play what the market demands....so the simplest way to get more of what it seems 5 pages of people want, is to stop going to techno nights and support other gendres, other promoters....just about anything Pat Boogie brings to the city should make you all happy....support his events...he has a new bi weekly deep event at School Bakery...every second Saturday...check it out!


Posted by gummybear on Jun-20-2009 04:22:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_deltawye
Well, you can't really compare the two styles, they're too different. But as far as energy levels are concerned, you can't tell me that house is more energetic AND uplifting than hardstyle. To each his/her own though, i guess.


That is the most uneducated edm comment I have read on here...especially the "uplifting" part...go to a party where only house music is being played and look at the faces of all the people on the dance floor and talk to me about uplifting...usually people are grinning from ear to ear and in a state of total happiness..

It's not all about bpm's.

ps, pat boogie is da man for us house lovers...


Posted by mnemonic. on Jun-20-2009 05:02:

quote:
Originally posted by gummybear
That is the most uneducated edm comment I have read on here...especially the "uplifting" part...go to a party where only house music is being played and look at the faces of all the people on the dance floor and talk to me about uplifting...usually people are grinning from ear to ear and in a state of total happiness..

It's not all about bpm's.


Agreed, I've had many uplifting house music moments. I'm in need of more !


Posted by Yohan on Jun-20-2009 05:19:

quote:
Originally posted by dj_deltawye
Well, you can't really compare the two styles, they're too different. But as far as energy levels are concerned, you can't tell me that house is more energetic AND uplifting than hardstyle. To each his/her own though, i guess.

your basis of whether a style of music is more energetic on what? bpm?


Posted by mnemonic. on Jun-20-2009 05:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Yohan
your basic whether a style of music has energetic on what? bpm?


what the !!!

Have you gotten into the wine, Yohan?


Posted by Yohan on Jun-20-2009 06:28:

quote:
Originally posted by MikeyN
what the !!!

Have you gotten into the wine, Yohan?

yeah. that made no sense at all


Posted by barbina on Jun-20-2009 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut

And people who say Carlo and the Junkies are "hot as fire" are living in a bubble.


LOL. Biggest joke I've ever heard.
Those guys pack big clubs like Guv, Footy and CZ EVERY week, ram boat cruises, have HUGE followings and are doing GREAT on beatport. HELLO can you guys say DUBFIRE is playing your tracks? Yeah. Thought not.

Jealousy really is an ugly attribute.
Don't hate the talent, hate that you can't keep up.


Posted by bigfatandugly on Jun-20-2009 07:08:

Re: House Music

quote:
Originally posted by The Highroller
Listening to this Mike Huckaby set is making me realize how much I miss house music.

Don't get me wrong, I like techno and tech house (although most of what I've been hearing recently is becoming really boring to me), but I feel like it's being played everywhere right now. It's a really dark sound that takes itself too seriously sometimes. It lacks that soulful, fun feeling. It would suck if this trend continued into the summer, although it looks like it will be that way.

Yes, I know we have Derrick Carter coming, but a good portion of the events you see in the event thread will probably have tech house playing. It would be nice to hear our residents throw down a house set every once in a while. Generally speaking, I'd just like to hear house resurface a bit in this city.


+1


Posted by Miss. S on Jun-20-2009 08:55:

quote:
Originally posted by DigiNut

And people who say Carlo and the Junkies are "hot as fire" are living in a bubble. They have a loyal following of sketchpads, that's all.


That statement is SO wrong, on so many levels.

They produce some of the best music coming out of Toronto.


Posted by VDub on Jun-20-2009 12:35:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina
LOL. Biggest joke I've ever heard.
Those guys pack big clubs like Guv, Footy and CZ EVERY week, ram boat cruises, have HUGE followings and are doing GREAT on beatport. HELLO can you guys say DUBFIRE is playing your tracks? Yeah. Thought not.

Jealousy really is an ugly attribute.
Don't hate the talent, hate that you can't keep up.


You know what???

This is a stupid comment..especially coming from someone who's been around as little as you...

And to even put Guv into the same scale as Footy and Zone...

Even more stupid...


Posted by MissK on Jun-20-2009 13:54:

VDUB you're just nit picking. Barb isn't comparing the clubs in scale she's explaining the following of people.

I never used to be a Junkies or Joee Cons fan. In fact you can probably go back and find threads about me saying they suck balls.

As of recent, I will admit, I've been really impressed.

In fact, at Freedon Joee was the one that put the two step in my jive.

Sorry, they are no Yoji Mauro Picotto Richard Durand etc. but they don't wana be.

This is 2009, not 2003... get with the times. or get out.


Posted by DigiNut on Jun-20-2009 13:59:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
Careful digi...

Don't worry, I feel the same way about DJs still playing music that passed its peak 10 years ago. I think that in this industry you have to stay fresh, but at the same time, just because something is new or trendy does not mean it's good.

Not ALL tech/minimal is bad, I just don't want to sit through 5 hours of it.


quote:
Originally posted by barbina
LOL. Biggest joke I've ever heard.
Those guys pack big clubs like Guv, Footy and CZ EVERY week, ram boat cruises, have HUGE followings and are doing GREAT on beatport. HELLO can you guys say DUBFIRE is playing your tracks? Yeah. Thought not.

Jealousy really is an ugly attribute.
Don't hate the talent, hate that you can't keep up.

1) You're hardly ever here, so I can't see how you would know.
2) A few thousand people consisting almost entirely of locals is not a "HUGE" following.
3) What exactly would I be jealous of / trying to keep up with?

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I either (a) am in competition somehow, or (b) actually care who succeeds. They're just DJs, they just play at parties and I am just an occasional partygoer. The only thing that's a joke to me is people who militantly worship players in some drab, generic trend that will no doubt be pass� within a year or two.


Posted by VDub on Jun-20-2009 14:06:

quote:
Originally posted by barbina

Those guys pack big clubs like Guv, Footy and CZ EVERY week,


Posted by NuERA on Jun-20-2009 14:15:

good old fashioned ta genre scrap


Posted by gummybear on Jun-20-2009 14:31:

As far as the local dj's..

Maybe it's because of Facebook and other portals like it but I have noticed a resurgence in the "groupie" movement. The locals are readily available and accessible to their "fans". What starts out as a groupie/dj relationship soon seems to turn into a "friendship".

The "groupies" will now defend their "friends" with everything they have, follow to them from club to club and generally blow smoke up their asses. I don't see this is a bad thing (everyone needs a following) and not gender specific, BUT what it does is create a very narrow and limited view for some people..

This city has seen many, many, great locals....and if someone wants to throw in my face that this is 2009 and not 2003 go ahead..but, our locals used to be a lot more varied and to me, had more artistic integrity...Any night of the week you could hear house, techno, progressive, tribal..etc. Nowadays, everything is cookie cutter and uninspired.

Don't mean to offend anyone.

Thanks for letting me have my Saturday morning mini rant..


Posted by YouReadyB on Jun-20-2009 16:05:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
There was a time when DJ's didn't give a rats ass what ppl thought about them....

They were the ones who told ppl what was good and the ppl took it in...


At the time when electro was starting to gain popularity, Mark was playing it a bit...

I asked him why he was playing it (since it was such a departure from his usual style) and he said that it was what the ppl wanted to hear...

I just remember thinking...You're Mark Oliver...You tell them what they want to hear....

I find DJ's a lot more trendy these days....


Not saying most care, just saying you can't win either way.


Posted by MissK on Jun-20-2009 16:12:

quote:
Originally posted by gummybear
As far as the local dj's..

Maybe it's because of Facebook and other portals like it but I have noticed a resurgence in the "groupie" movement. The locals are readily available and accessible to their "fans". What starts out as a groupie/dj relationship soon seems to turn into a "friendship".

The "groupies" will now defend their "friends" with everything they have, follow to them from club to club and generally blow smoke up their asses. I don't see this is a bad thing (everyone needs a following) and not gender specific, BUT what it does is create a very narrow and limited view for some people..

This city has seen many, many, great locals....and if someone wants to throw in my face that this is 2009 and not 2003 go ahead..but, our locals used to be a lot more varied and to me, had more artistic integrity...Any night of the week you could hear house, techno, progressive, tribal..etc. Nowadays, everything is cookie cutter and uninspired.

Don't mean to offend anyone.

Thanks for letting me have my Saturday morning mini rant..



I believe that someone was me.

My statement about the junkies and joee was directed in the point of which they are better than they used to be and a pleasure to listen to.

Reminiscing what the scene used to be is counter productive. The goal hear is to discuss the love for house in general. The scene is constantly changing and evolving. Go to parties that aren't techno, they are out there. If you don't like the locals you really have many other options.

I miss the past but I'm also having a great time here in the present.


Posted by YouReadyB on Jun-20-2009 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by MissK
I believe that someone was me.

My statement about the junkies and joee was directed in the point of which they are better than they used to be and a pleasure to listen to.

Reminiscing what the scene used to be is counter productive. The goal hear is to discuss the love for house in general. The scene is constantly changing and evolving. Go to parties that aren't techno, they are out there. If you don't like the locals you really have many other options.

I miss the past but I'm also having a great time here in the present.


I'ma have a good time when we're labelling and bottling the wine.

Get your butt ova' here


Posted by Stilez on Jun-20-2009 17:26:

quote:
Originally posted by VDub
There was a time when DJ's didn't give a rats ass what ppl thought about them....

They were the ones who told ppl what was good and the ppl took it in...


At the time when electro was starting to gain popularity, Mark was playing it a bit...

I asked him why he was playing it (since it was such a departure from his usual style) and he said that it was what the ppl wanted to hear...

I just remember thinking...You're Mark Oliver...You tell them what they want to hear....

I find DJ's a lot more trendy these days....



Although, I've gotta say that the crowd has always had the ultimate say of what the dj usually ends up playing, but for the trained eye/ear it's easy to tell which dj's are educated and schooled in overall musical knowledge and those that aren't.

note: by musical knowledge I'm referring to variety of genres, styles, old & new, etc. not classical training as in an instrument.


Posted by geroin on Jun-20-2009 17:38:

last night at ministry they played this type of music. Deep soulfull house, it was pretty amazing to see this type of music at an afterhours.. i don't know who was playing but he was insane, a black dude mostly and some white guy with him..


Posted by samhouse on Jun-20-2009 18:14:

Don't get me wrong - I'm all for the dark and grimey stuff in abundance out there today. But definately gotta love some smooth, sexy vocals and just good old fashioned house music. Nothing like it!


Posted by samhouse on Jun-20-2009 18:18:

and people REALLY need to stop bashing others tastes...too much has already been said on this.

Love Life, Love music (In general)!
Have your opinion because it defines who you are but respect the others around you. Life is too short people.


Posted by English Rachel on Jun-20-2009 18:18:

And Cam will be playing there next week - can't wait for that type of night


Posted by musicsnob_NOT on Jun-20-2009 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by aflyonthewall
Clubs book and Djs play what the market demands....so the simplest way to get more of what it seems 5 pages of people want, is to stop going to techno nights and support other gendres, other promoters....just about anything Pat Boogie brings to the city should make you all happy....support his events...he has a new bi weekly deep event at School Bakery...every second Saturday...check it out!


Pat Boogie throws great parties and is one of the true house promoters. I'm sorry though I just can't get behind parties at School Bakery..something just feels wrong having the gear where a sandwich is being made a couple hours earlier.

quote:
Originally posted by gummybear
This city has seen many, many, great locals....and if someone wants to throw in my face that this is 2009 and not 2003 go ahead..but, our locals used to be a lot more varied and to me, had more artistic integrity...Any night of the week you could hear house, techno, progressive, tribal..etc. Nowadays, everything is cookie cutter and uninspired.


Exactly. I love a lot of the locals but for the most part they all sound the same all of the time. Everyone associates Berlin with techno and minimal but when you are there you can go hear any different genre pretty much any night.

Hopefully the likes of Loopity Goofs, Mike Gleeson, and Dirty Dale continue to get some more gigs in better venues than School Bakery.


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