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Posted by Existo22 on Jul-10-2009 16:36:

Re: Can someone link me to a sample containing a "Supersaw" sound?

quote:
Originally posted by Guest
would like to understand what this sound is exactly...


Oscillators are what produce sound. They come in various shapes that represent how the waveform looks like. Usually sawtooth, sine, square, triangle
When Roland came up with their digital synth Jp-8000 in the mid 90s they had a new oscillator called ''supersaw'' which was 7 detuned sawtooth oscillators stacked on top of each other that produced this massive sound that gave birth to the cheesy trance of the late 90's.
I do like a good supersaw anthem though. Extra points if oakenfold is waving his hands in the air.

Download this freeware on your pc for free supersaws this japanese dude made. Too bad it doesn't work on my mac.



Posted by euphoria on Jul-10-2009 16:53:

quote:
Originally posted by MeLLyMeL
i like the screen name. witty.

for a while there was also sidechain abuse but i am guilty of liking some of those...


yes, guilty as well


Posted by Jaroo on Jul-10-2009 17:10:



4:15 supah!

the jupiter drop is pretty awsome too, filo & peri does make some good tracks


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-10-2009 18:12:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
there was one guy (Trance-MB i think) who posted a youtube link to a track a little while ago. I think the track was by Activa. That one had MEGA SUPERSAWZ! I killed my neighbours when i played it. The saws were too razorsharp.


I just was thinking of your comment to that one and then I saw the above.

I think it was this one (@3 min): Andy Blueman - Time To Rest (Daniel Kandi Bangin' Mix)

Amazing track if you like supersawz


Posted by distant on Jul-10-2009 23:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Jaroo
Not really. Alot of new sub genres have emerged with time and have made trance a very diverse genre since there are no real rules or limits to it's sound compared to many other!

You could easily say that trance is mostly a experimental genre mixture of every other out there, trying to define and create the perfect sound


you're fucking hilarious.


Posted by Lews on Jul-10-2009 23:26:

Supersaw's can be good, Airwave isn't a terrible song, but they are so hated because of how overused they are.


Posted by DJMaytag on Jul-13-2009 17:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Darkarbiter
Well when it means that all the interesting, creative emotional synth programming that was previously in trance is now gone and we get this shit for 10+ years, yes it is important. You're an idiot.


welcome to the mid 80's to mid 90's. First it was the TB-303 acid sound that was on every record in every genre for a decade, then came the JP-8000/8080 supersaw sound. What's going to the be the next synth that has a peculiar sound or a way of being abused that's going to be overdone for the NEXT ten years?

If the pattern holds up, I'd bet on something coming from Roland once again.


Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-13-2009 17:24:

quote:
Originally posted by DJMaytag
What's going to the be the next synth that has a peculiar sound or a way of being abused that's going to be overdone for the NEXT ten years?

If the pattern holds up, I'd bet on something coming from Roland once again.



SIDECHAIN


Posted by DJMaytag on Jul-13-2009 17:28:

quote:
Originally posted by supersaw abuse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaU2NV-shEc

world's biggest supersaw at 4:02


I think that ought to qualify for a Guinness world record?

I'm deaf now, BTW.


Posted by RickyM on Jul-13-2009 19:39:

quote:
Originally posted by david.michael
lol, you ain't lyin'




That's a shit load of reverb they have on that...


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Jul-13-2009 19:51:

super stutter chain


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-13-2009 19:56:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM


That's a shit load of reverb they have on that...


That's why the one and only "MEGA SUPERSAWZ" (named by Rebel9) still is Andy Blueman - Time To Rest (Daniel Kandi Bangin' Mix) by far.

From 2:35 supersaw till the end. Bangin' Mix is such a great name for that track


Posted by RickyM on Jul-13-2009 20:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
That's why the one and only "MEGA SUPERSAWZ" (named by Rebel9) still is Andy Blueman - Time To Rest (Daniel Kandi Bangin' Mix) by far.

From 2:35 supersaw till the end. Bangin' Mix is such a great name for that track


As huge as that is, I think the original version with Eller Van Buuren playing a porno guitar over it is really taking the piss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWnuEduPe1k

Around 5 mins...


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-13-2009 20:56:

But the guitar is not a supersaw, but it sure sounds great and together indeed maybe even bigger.


Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-13-2009 23:21:

ok now this is getting interesting.

so we have the earliest trance tune with supersaws; Albion - Air (1997).

But surely there must be tracks with even MOAR supersaws???

The quest continues...


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Jul-13-2009 23:43:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
The quest continues...

In Search of Supersaws.


Posted by ToF on Jul-14-2009 08:31:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
ok now this is getting interesting.

so we have the earliest trance tune with supersaws; Albion - Air (1997).

But surely there must be tracks with even MOAR supersaws???

The quest continues...

I love how everyone is having a light hearted approach to this topic.
I gotta admit I did like a fair amount of sawz in my time.

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
SIDECHAIN

I think I know what this is but can we get some examples too? Or should someone start another thread lol.


Posted by Subtle on Jul-14-2009 08:33:

Supersaws rocks!


Posted by SuspicionVandit on Jul-14-2009 08:35:

I still don't really understand sidechain fully. I never listen to a track and say "yeah, that's sidechain!"



The best I've been it's explained is you play a sound, then fade it out to replace it with another sound. Which I suppose in this example is ~1:15 where it fades out to every second beat.

it's badass.


Posted by ToF on Jul-14-2009 09:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Supersaws rocks!


Win!


Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-14-2009 10:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Subtle
Supersaws rocks!



that supersaw was naaaasty.
it's actually a really good tune. the G&M project remix so to say.


Posted by supersaw abuse on Jul-15-2009 03:31:

yeah, could someone post a song with a really big sidechain so i could get an understanding of exactly what that sounds like?


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-15-2009 04:46:

quote:
Originally posted by supersaw abuse
yeah, could someone post a song with a really big sidechain so i could get an understanding of exactly what that sounds like?

Not the worst example but since you posted this yourself a while back:



In the main section, notice how everything in the mix "ducks" back whenever the bassdrum hits.

It's also called the "we couldn't be bothered with a proper mixdown so we just slapped a sidechain on it"-method.


Posted by Sykonee on Jul-15-2009 05:37:

A better example of overdone sidechain:



It's quite prominent in the way it totally obliterates what you hear in the main hook, creating a very muffled 'throb-throb' effect.


Posted by Push2005 on Jul-15-2009 14:05:

quote:
Originally posted by supersaw abuse
yeah, could someone post a song with a really big sidechain so i could get an understanding of exactly what that sounds like?





1:57

At 2:40 it becomes enormous


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