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Posted by woscar on Jul-17-2009 19:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Palladium
i heard a radioshow of a trance dj doing a tribute, i don't recall who right now but he played original tracks but poorly mixed together. it was kinda lame actually

EDIT:
found it


It's the same thing with the Jojo Flores mix.


Posted by Clovis on Jul-17-2009 20:26:

The radio is just playing all of his hits, fortunately for anyone who wants to look a little deeper MJ's discography is pretty large...


Posted by Dj Minaya on Jul-18-2009 03:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Sykonee
He already stated one of them: that it's ASOT.


I mean, it's not like the show's called A State Of Michael Jackson.


He can play whatever he wants. One non trance track isn't going to ruin what his fans already think of them, whatever that may be.

In all honesty it would've been pretty damn cool if he did just a drop an original Michael Jackson track.

I get why he played the Jerome remix but I personally think it would be more exciting to hear something you wouldn't except when you least expect it. Thats part of the fun of DJing to begin with, knowing when to surprise people.


Posted by ToF on Jul-18-2009 07:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Minaya
He can play whatever he wants. One non trance track isn't going to ruin what his fans already think of them, whatever that may be.

In all honesty it would've been pretty damn cool if he did just a drop an original Michael Jackson track.

I get why he played the Jerome remix but I personally think it would be more exciting to hear something you wouldn't except when you least expect it. Thats part of the fun of DJing to begin with, knowing when to surprise people.

ASOT fans don't like surprises...


Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-18-2009 10:48:

quote:
Originally posted by ToF
ASOT fans don't like surprises...


haha true.


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-18-2009 13:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Minaya
He can play whatever he wants. One non trance track isn't going to ruin what his fans already think of them, whatever that may be.

In all honesty it would've been pretty damn cool if he did just a drop an original Michael Jackson track.

I get why he played the Jerome remix but I personally think it would be more exciting to hear something you wouldn't except when you least expect it. Thats part of the fun of DJing to begin with, knowing when to surprise people.


Yeah, but if he would have played an original people would says "Why didn't he play a remix?" and when he played a remix other people wanna hear an original....

It's his show, he can play what he wants, although even that might be not true...

The ASOT radio classic can be a surprise sometimes, like BT-Godspeed or Members of Mayday - 10IN01 (Paul van Dyk Club mix) :
Asot Classic Requests


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-18-2009 15:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Yeah, in you're opinion there shouldn't be a trance remix of a MJ track and you don't consider it as a tribute.
What about a heavy metal, jumpstyle or gabber remix then?
Would be easier to say what you consider a tribute, Dolly Parton singing Smooth Criminal?

I don't see how the genre would make any kind of a difference.


Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-18-2009 16:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB

The ASOT radio classic can be a surprise sometimes, like BT-Godspeed or Members of Mayday - 10IN01 (Paul van Dyk Club mix) :
Asot Classic Requests


wow. surprises!!! you must have a really narrow field of music vision if you call those surprises since it's still fits in the same category of music i.e. melodic trance.


Posted by Bren-F on Jul-18-2009 17:36:

The anger and outrage in this thread amuses me


Posted by Kinezi on Jul-18-2009 18:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Minaya
He can play whatever he wants. One non trance track isn't going to ruin what his fans already think of them, whatever that may be.

In all honesty it would've been pretty damn cool if he did just a drop an original Michael Jackson track.

I get why he played the Jerome remix but I personally think it would be more exciting to hear something you wouldn't except when you least expect it. Thats part of the fun of DJing to begin with, knowing when to surprise people.


If you wanna listen to original than just log on to regular radio and if you wanna hear a trance remix than log on to a state of trance radio.. seriously its not that hard to get it right..


Posted by DOOMBOT on Jul-18-2009 18:53:

When the song first began it sounded promising to me. It quickly turned into every other generic trance song out there. I'm sure a lot of people enjoyed it though and that's pretty much the point I'm sure!


Posted by yukii on Jul-18-2009 19:13:

although the song may suck, his intentions were sweet yo.


Posted by Ian on Jul-18-2009 19:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinezi
If you wanna listen to original than just log on to regular radio and if you wanna hear a trance remix than log on to a state of trance radio.. seriously its not that hard to get it right..



except nothing on that show is trance anymore and hasn't been for a long long time.


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-18-2009 20:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
I don't see how the genre would make any kind of a difference.


Exactly, why do you just mention trance then? By doing that you suggest there shouldn't be any trance remixes, but other genres are fine.
At least that's how I read it, but maybe that just me understanding it wrong again or I'm the only one thinking about it.


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-18-2009 20:24:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
wow. surprises!!! you must have a really narrow field of music vision if you call those surprises since it's still fits in the same category of music i.e. melodic trance.


First of all who says that a surprise should a track outside the genre?
Second: I don't think both examples are typical ASOT tracks even if they fit in the same genre.
Third: do you know the meaning of the word "SOMETIMES"?
Fourth: stating that ASOT listeners don't like surprises must be a joke, because it's based on absolutely nothing.
Fifth: by now you should now I listen to much more than just ASOT tracks, but that it is may fav genre.

I bet any DJ playing a Members Of Mayday track would surprise people these days.


Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-18-2009 20:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
First of all who says that a surprise should a track outside the genre?
Second: I don't think both examples are typical ASOT tracks even if they fit in the same genre.
Third: do you know the meaning of the word "SOMETIMES"?
Fourth: stating that ASOT listeners don't like surprises must be a joke, because it's based on absolutely nothing.
Fifth: by now you should now I listen to much more than just ASOT tracks, but that it is may fav genre.

I bet any DJ playing a Members Of Mayday track would surprise people these days.


10 on 1 was played by more or less every DJ and his grandmother so no I wouldn't say it's that much of a surprise. The reason you find it a surprise is that Armin's fans are so focused on new and unreleased stuff. The moment he plays a song which isn't from the last week people go OMFG CLASSIC OLDSKOOOL!


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-18-2009 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
10 on 1 was played by more or less every DJ and his grandmother so no I wouldn't say it's that much of a surprise. The reason you find it a surprise is that Armin's fans are so focused on new and unreleased stuff. The moment he plays a song which isn't from the last week people go OMFG CLASSIC OLDSKOOOL!


The last track of the episode is called the ASOT CLASSIC, so there is no surprise that it is an older track.
The surprise to me just is which track.
Armin, PvD, Ferry, Above&Beyond tracks or remixes can be expected, but some others to me are a surprise.

I never use the word OLDSKOOL, to me that refers to early hardcore only.


Posted by RebeL9 on Jul-18-2009 21:04:

yes. but the point was that you made it seem as a big surprise that he played an already overplayed tune from a couple of years ago.
The surprise value of that is not very high.

What would be more of a surprise; if for instance Tiesto played one of his hardcore tracks from early 90s in his radio show.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-18-2009 21:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Exactly, why do you just mention trance then? By doing that you suggest there shouldn't be any trance remixes, but other genres are fine.
At least that's how I read it, but maybe that just me understanding it wrong again or I'm the only one thinking about it.

Because this particular thread is about a trance version. Why would I even talk about a crunk bluegrass tribute to MJ in a thread like this?


Posted by Dj Minaya on Jul-19-2009 00:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Kinezi
If you wanna listen to original than just log on to regular radio and if you wanna hear a trance remix than log on to a state of trance radio.. seriously its not that hard to get it right..


You completely missed the point of what we're talking about here.

I'm aware that I'm capable of listening to what I want when I went but again thats not what were talking about.

quote:
What would be more of a surprise; if for instance Tiesto played one of his hardcore tracks from early 90s in his radio show.


I really still wish he would've done that. Would've been quite classic honestly.


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-19-2009 10:15:

quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
yes. but the point was that you made it seem as a big surprise that he played an already overplayed tune from a couple of years ago.
The surprise value of that is not very high.

What would be more of a surprise; if for instance Tiesto played one of his hardcore tracks from early 90s in his radio show.


Okay, a hardcore track would really be a big surprise.
But in the spirit of the show a surprise doesn't need to be that big, at least for me it doesn't need to.

However, if he played Scooter - Cosmos or his own D-Groovy that would be a big surprise to me, because I don't expect that he will play those.


Posted by Trance-M on Jul-19-2009 12:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Because this particular thread is about a trance version. Why would I even talk about a crunk bluegrass tribute to MJ in a thread like this?


Sorry, must be my mistake then, thought the thread was about the MJ tribute and not really about the track that he played. Topic starter didn't even mention the trackname.

Still, could another remix of a MJ track in a different genry then be considered as a tribute in your opinion?

In my opinion a remix in any genre could be considered as a remix as long as the artist truly had repect for MJ or just liked his tracks very much.


Posted by chrisday on Jul-20-2009 20:36:

I don't think he would of won anyway...

He plays one of his familiar trakcs, heard that loads.
Plays a trance remix, people say hes sticking to the same formula.
Plays an older more obscure track and people think Armin is just trying to be different.

Should of probably done nothing.

Although.... I do agree with peoples posts on here, ASOT is stale, and always follows the same formula and ends up being ridiculously boring. I remember listening to PVD on Radio 1 and thinking WTF.. but at the start it was actually quite different, well mixed and a breath of fresh air. Also an MJ mash up in there..

The start of the tracklist is below >

01. Wombats - Let�s Dance To Joy Division
02. Ting Tings - That�s Not My Name
03. Kate Nash - Foundation
04. Coldplay - Viva La Vida
05. British Sea Power - Waving Flags
06. Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc.
07. Katy Perry - Hot & Cold
08. U2 - Beautiful Day
09. Duffy - Mercy + Eric Prydz - Pjanoo [Sample]
10. Indeep - Last Night A DJ Saved My Life vs. Michael Jackson - Billy Jean vs. New Order - Blue Monday


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Jul-21-2009 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Trance-MB
Still, could another remix of a MJ track in a different genry then be considered as a tribute in your opinion?

That would depend on the outcome, but generally these things seem a bit false to me. Someone dies and suddenly all these "tributes" start popping out. Why didn't anyone pay tribute to him when he was alive?


Posted by Magnetonium on Jul-21-2009 02:17:

Re: Armin van Buuren pays tribute to Micheal Jackson!!

quote:
Originally posted by Kinezi
Armin van Buuren pays tribute to Micheal Jackson!!



Google correction:

Did you mean Michelle Jackson? ...


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