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Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-04-2009 16:19:

unemployment = better bottom line due to less expenses. I've seen bombardier stocks jump due to layoffs. rally rally rally


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-04-2009 16:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Day 1 of my GME investment. I bought at $22.60, it's now $24.40...


that should cover your 5 dollar comission


Posted by Capitalizt on Aug-04-2009 16:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
that should cover your 5 dollar comission



Posted by ziptnf on Aug-04-2009 16:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Max Thomson
go tell the thousands of people who've been laid off how your nice numbers should make them feel better now that the economy is improving.

How does one "fix" unemployment without spending money? Enlighten me.


Posted by Krypton on Aug-04-2009 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
that should cover your 5 dollar comission


$9.90 because they charge $4.95 to buy and $4.95. But yea, it's covered, and then some.


Posted by The17sss on Aug-04-2009 17:54:

This oughtta do it!



U.S. Government Stages Fake Coup To Wipe Out National Debt



Posted by Guest on Aug-04-2009 18:27:

what wise decisions has our govt made in the last 6 months that would warrant a recovery?


Posted by fbgdavidson on Aug-04-2009 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
I did... I did. But the peak was 14,000 and just looking at the stock market is not a good indicator- what kind of recovery could it be if job losses are still mounting and nobody is hiring? All indicators are that things are worse, or going to get worse than are being reported in the short term. That massive 18% drop in tax revenue to the govt., combined with out of control spending and soaring deficits is a harbinger of bad news to come.


The stock market is always going to be ahead of the curve. The market was depressed and went into freefall in anticipation of the big job layoffs we've seen and continue to see.

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss Besides, I don't know if Krypton is the best source of economic advice. About 6 months ago I asked him hypothetically, if he had $50K lying around what he would do with it. He said he'd definitely invest a big portion of that in Caterpillar and/or other heavy construction corporations like that. Since then, Caterpillar has purged 30,000 jobs, seen profits head into the toilet, and closed down several plants. And, the construction industry as a whole is tanking. Good thing I didn't take his advice and invest in Caterpillar.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dy...prss=rss_nation


But that doesn't necessarily mean bad things for the company's stock price. In fact CAT is up 56% over the last 6 months and the end of February marked a 6yr low...

Closing down plants that are a drain on the company and shedding unnecessary labour is beneficial in the eye of the investor.


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-04-2009 21:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
$9.90 because they charge $4.95 to buy and $4.95. But yea, it's covered, and then some.


nice


Posted by Krypton on Aug-04-2009 22:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
nice


As it stands this year I have made 3 investments. Each investment has netted positive returns giving me a 100% accuracy!


Posted by Nrg2Nfinit on Aug-04-2009 22:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
As it stands this year I have made 3 investments. Each investment has netted positive returns giving me a 100% accuracy!


i wish i was as fortunate. lol Im up overall and holding onto losses amounting to 800 dollars


Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-04-2009 23:44:

Re: Re: Re: The economy is improving

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
Inflation means anything priced in dollars goes up in market price, yes that means stocks too. But I wouldn't expect a glorified bank teller to know this...

Monetary inflation is the increase in the money supply. The increase in prices of goods and/or services would be the effect of that.


Posted by Spam on Aug-05-2009 00:42:

quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
for all of you skeptics of stock market investment...

I bought 1100 shares of Ford Motor last year at around a buck a share.


its trading at 8.27 right now.....


the colonel profits!


Don't fucking remind me man. I was thinking to myself back in March "Hm, self, I should learn how to buy stocks so I can drop my savings into Ford and ride their recovery to riches."

Shares were around a buck in March...

In May, they hit 7...

I shoulda learned.


Posted by MSZ on Aug-05-2009 00:47:

does this mean you will get a bj? sorry man had to, enjoy your finances.


Posted by Krypton on Aug-05-2009 01:46:

Re: Re: Re: Re: The economy is improving

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Monetary inflation is the increase in the money supply. The increase in prices of goods and/or services would be the effect of that.


No shit, I wasn't defining inflation..


Posted by shaw on Aug-05-2009 01:48:

Re: The economy is improving

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
The economy is improving



Posted by Krypton on Aug-05-2009 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
i wish i was as fortunate. lol Im up overall and holding onto losses amounting to 800 dollars


I'm sure by the end of the year, you'll be all green.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-05-2009 12:10:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The economy is improving

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
No shit, I wasn't defining inflation..

You weren't? Then why did you begin your sentence with, "Inflation means...", followed by your own small definition?


Posted by Krypton on Aug-05-2009 16:17:

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: The economy is improving

quote:
Originally posted by DOOMBOT
You weren't? Then why did you begin your sentence with, "Inflation means...", followed by your own small definition?


Replace "means" with any of these words...

add up, adumbrate, allude, allude to, argue, attest, augur, betoken, connote, denote, designate, determine, drive at, express, foreshadow, foretell, herald, hint at, imply, import, indicate, intimate, involve, name, point to, portend, presage, promise, purport, represent, say, speak of, spell, stand for, suggest, symbolize


Posted by The17sss on Aug-05-2009 22:18:

More economic recovery news from today:

1) the services sector (80% of the American economy) contracted in July rather than expanded as expected.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/32296019

2) Planned layoffs (for the upcoming future) by businesses are up 31%, even though it's being reported that job losses have slowed in July... with the unemployment rate to reach 10.2% soon.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/05/new..._cuts/index.htm

3) If the recession is over and the stimulus is working, why is this happening: "The Senate yesterday passed a $124.3 billion agriculture spending bill that pays to add millions of people to the food-stamp rolls as rising numbers of the jobless are forced into the program. A record 34.4 million people -- or one in nine Americans -- were participating in the food-stamp program as of May. That's an increase of 650,000 people from the previous month and up 6 million from the same time last year."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...0QpfqgD99SBHLO0



Posted by iTranscendence on Aug-05-2009 23:02:


Guys, you should totally invest all of your money into the stockmarket, the criminals who caused this problem in the first place are gone, I swear its totally safe now.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Aug-05-2009 23:07:

quote:
Originally posted by iTranscendence
Guys, you should totally invest all of your money into the stockmarket, the criminals who caused this problem in the first place are gone, I swear its totally safe now.


perhaps you'd like to explain exactly which laws were broken by these "criminals"?

or are you just parading your usual ignorant BS?



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Impersonal, institutional processes, especially errors and oversights, interpreted as malign, consciously intended and designed by immoral individuals.

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Posted by Krypton on Aug-05-2009 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
More economic recovery news from today:

1) the services sector (80% of the American economy) contracted in July rather than expanded as expected.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/32296019

2) Planned layoffs (for the upcoming future) by businesses are up 31%, even though it's being reported that job losses have slowed in July... with the unemployment rate to reach 10.2% soon.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/05/new..._cuts/index.htm

3) If the recession is over and the stimulus is working, why is this happening: "The Senate yesterday passed a $124.3 billion agriculture spending bill that pays to add millions of people to the food-stamp rolls as rising numbers of the jobless are forced into the program. A record 34.4 million people -- or one in nine Americans -- were participating in the food-stamp program as of May. That's an increase of 650,000 people from the previous month and up 6 million from the same time last year."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...0QpfqgD99SBHLO0




The recession isn't over, but it's apparently obvious the worst is over. A few months ago we were worried about a systemic financial collapse. The markets are rallying because of the belief that the worst of the recession is over and also the influx of liquidity.


Posted by fbgdavidson on Aug-06-2009 03:39:

quote:
Originally posted by The17sss
More economic recovery news from today:

1) the services sector (80% of the American economy) contracted in July rather than expanded as expected.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/32296019

2) Planned layoffs (for the upcoming future) by businesses are up 31%, even though it's being reported that job losses have slowed in July... with the unemployment rate to reach 10.2% soon.
http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/05/new..._cuts/index.htm

3) If the recession is over and the stimulus is working, why is this happening: "The Senate yesterday passed a $124.3 billion agriculture spending bill that pays to add millions of people to the food-stamp rolls as rising numbers of the jobless are forced into the program. A record 34.4 million people -- or one in nine Americans -- were participating in the food-stamp program as of May. That's an increase of 650,000 people from the previous month and up 6 million from the same time last year."
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap...0QpfqgD99SBHLO0




Yes, and job layoffs are still reactionary.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-06-2009 04:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Krypton
The recession isn't over, but it's apparently obvious the worst is over. A few months ago we were worried about a systemic financial collapse. The markets are rallying because of the belief that the worst of the recession is over and also the influx of liquidity.


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