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Posted by MSZ on Nov-24-2009 16:40:

i've also had more bad batch vinyl than bad mp3 batch beatport mp3s. the only time i actually complained was for vinyl. Isolated cases it may be.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-24-2009 17:07:

well you live in Canada, like me.

Record distribution is almost non existent here, so when you import them at ridiculous prices, they better sound good imo.

There are more variables with records than with digital. A digital file can't get messed up in the mail for instance.


Posted by MSZ on Nov-24-2009 17:16:

true.


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-24-2009 18:30:

You're being a real muppet if you're loading down your tonearm to "loosen the groove".

Sometimes they are pressed "tight" because they are originally cut from a precise master plate and because they know that records can eventually wear out, especially so with non correctly calibrated styli - by loading it down, all your doing is killing that longevity that was built in to it and fucking your needles at the same time.

A nice way to wreck tracks and equipment. Rmemebr you're talking about vibrations in the 1000/mm to reproduce music - you think another 3grams of pressure is going to help?

It takes less than 20 seconds to balance both tonearm -so I have no idea why someone wouldn't do it before they use them each time.

I've only ever had bad pressing (where it jumps) with vinyl a couple of times over the last 15 years of buying records, whereas I've had at least half a dozen screwed tracks from beatport over the last five years.

@reclus - yes, it's 6 blocks from my house! never actually been though, peeps that I know who go say it's amazing for indi/electronica but not great for EDM...think I'll finally go to see for myself, maybe worth a try.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-24-2009 19:33:

you are the muppet for writing a novel, because at the end of the day, all of those records are fine.

i got that trick from nick holder himself whom i complained to...so kindly smell your own farts somewhere else, unless you have done pressings of your own


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-24-2009 19:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
you are the muppet for writing a novel, because at the end of the day, all of those records are fine.

i got that trick from nick holder himself whom i complained to...so kindly smell your own farts somewhere else, unless you have done pressings of your own



ooooh, hit a nerve did I?

Keep doing what you're doing , I really couldn't care less - I know my records are fine after more than a decade of use, but yours won't be

Oh, and If you call 7 sentences novel, it's no wonder you believe that sort of thing is a good idea

Did you ever consider that playing it a few times through with the correct weight would do the same thing as playing it once with a brick on the shell? (only far less harmful in the long run)

And yes, I've been involved in dub plate cutting and manufacture for a studio/label back in the UK.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-24-2009 20:11:

cool link me to your discogs.

not the collectors account, but the actual release account.

*crickets chirping*


Posted by DJ RANN on Nov-24-2009 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
cool link me to your discogs.

not the collectors account, but the actual release account.

*crickets chirping*


Ok you want to forget the vinyl thing and get personal. I'll move on then, but before I do.....

Discogs? I'm an engineer, not a producer or artist, and I work in the film industry (but there's no way I'm posting my IMDB here).

I'm pretty sure, you've paid your hard earned to watch films I've worked on, but you'll never know.....


Posted by SPAWNmaster on Nov-24-2009 22:34:

So I just received my import (from France) Vinyl copy of New Order- True Faith (King Roc Remix)...and the sound of it is just incredible on the physical format. That combined with my xone 4d's analog circuitry makes for a complete eargasm.

I have the track posted here:

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...90&forumid=1&s=

But, it just makes me want to mix exclusively on Vinyl!!!


Posted by MSZ on Nov-24-2009 23:18:

you compared it to a 320 or a youtube link?


Posted by Teezdalien on Nov-25-2009 00:40:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
pops and clicks should really not be an issue if you keep your records clean and static free.

Also, many people in this thread keep going on about the records wearing out ? If you calibrate your needle and tonearm correctly then there's very little wear on a record - I've got tracks I've had since the mid 90's and caned them DJ'ing and they still sound great.

Frankly, over the same period, I've lost more music through drive failure than I have through damaged vinyl. Go figure.


I have had a $30K+ record collection stolen from me. Imagine how that must feel.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-25-2009 00:47:

how the fuck did you have 30k worth of wax stolen?

those must have been some organized thiefs. I have between 3 k and 4 k records, and the good ones i hide


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-25-2009 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Ok you want to forget the vinyl thing and get personal. I'll move on then, but before I do.....

Discogs? I'm an engineer, not a producer or artist, and I work in the film industry (but there's no way I'm posting my IMDB here).

I'm pretty sure, you've paid your hard earned to watch films I've worked on, but you'll never know.....


relax sally, i just wanted to make the point that there are more ways than yours. All of my records play fine, and if they do not it is not because of a loonie on a tonearm, it is because i fucked them up myself


Posted by Teezdalien on Nov-25-2009 00:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
how the fuck did you have 30k worth of wax stolen?

those must have been some organized thiefs. I have between 3 k and 4 k records, and the good ones i hide


ex-missus.

I'll get them back before I die. Don't worry about that.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-25-2009 01:05:

a woman stole your records?

she better play...because i know i probably treat my records better than my girl.

good thing she does not read TA.


Posted by Teezdalien on Nov-25-2009 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
a woman stole your records?

she better play...because i know i probably treat my records better than my girl.

good thing she does not read TA.


I don't think she's even heard of these forums. All I can say is that she really fucked up.


Posted by chewy dragee on Nov-25-2009 07:20:

quote:
Originally posted by msz
i've also had more bad batch vinyl than bad mp3 batch beatport mp3s. the only time i actually complained was for vinyl. Isolated cases it may be.


Ummm You mean you had more bad MP3s than vinyl.

I won't believe for one second anyone who says they have more bad vinyls that MP3.

I do admit to having a few crap vinyls, and I don't mean skipping and scratches when I say bad. I mean bad mastering and sound quality.

Bad MP3 are soooo damn common for some reason, even tracks that are digital only releases are sometimes so shit that you can't use them in a mix.


Posted by Lews on Nov-25-2009 09:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
a woman stole your records?

she better play...because i know i probably treat my records better than my girl.

good thing she does not read TA.


My girlfriend bought me my first record player and taught me how to use it

What can I say, I'm lucky


Posted by knowhope on Nov-25-2009 19:06:

quote:
Originally posted by Lews
My girlfriend bought me my first record player and taught me how to use it

What can I say, I'm lucky
If my girlfriend would be my mentor, i would feel... Somewhat "small".








Posted by Schadenfreude on Nov-26-2009 14:13:

quote:
Originally posted by knowhope
If my girlfriend would be my mentor, i would feel... Somewhat "small".









why, because you were an idiot to begin with?

Playing records is not rocket science you know.


Posted by knowhope on Nov-26-2009 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
why, because you were an idiot to begin with?

Playing records is not rocket science you know.
Next time i make a joke.

I'll be sure to PM you that it's a joke. I'm doing this because you're just so special.


Posted by Lews on Nov-27-2009 04:01:

o.o


Posted by n3lly on Nov-27-2009 12:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
why, because you were an idiot to begin with?

Playing records is not rocket science you know.


Back in your box, Bitte..

Back on topic now ladies.

Let's continue the debate with 'Vinyl's going to die out in 10 yrs'...


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