This leads me to believe you are either a hit-n-run debater or one who can not handle criticism of your views.
Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on Sep-29-2009 00:21:
i do love how he attempts to portray those that understand the constitutionality of the federal reserve and paper money as �fabian socialists�. Hilarity. Its almost like trancer-x was back! He loved to throw around terms he didn�t quite understand too.
oooh, central banks = socialism! When are these guys gonna grow up?
Posted by jerZ07002 on Sep-29-2009 01:09:
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Originally posted by tathi
those videos seem like down town Tehran not Pittsburg :S
that was pretty fucking tame. I've seen street fights between 2 people inflict more wide ranging damage than anything in those videos.
do those dumb ass kids even know what they are protesting? i bet most of them are there because they think it's a good time.
Posted by jerZ07002 on Sep-29-2009 01:12:
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Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Only Congress, according to the Constitution, had the authority to coin money, not a central bank. And that States, I quote again can not "make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts". Which is why Jefferson was against the First Bank of the US and paper money. It was and still is, simply unConstitutional.
Jefferson ftw!
congress also has the power to delegate its authority, which it does all the time (see e.g., every single federal executive agency and their adminstrative regulations).
Posted by iTranscendence on Sep-29-2009 06:55:
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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin
So those anarchists with their faces covered and no permit to demonstrate didn't pose a threat to public order?
I saw that you were challenged to make a persecutory case for your accusations of government involvement in 9/11 with you abandoning the debate.
This leads me to believe you are either a hit-n-run debater or one who can not handle criticism of your views.
Awww poor krypton.
Posted by Comrade Stalin on Sep-29-2009 07:49:
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Originally posted by iTranscendence
Awww poor krypton.
Correction, you are a hit-n-run debater AND one who can not handle criticism of your views. PKC may go straight to insulting you, but I always gave you a chance and still do.
Posted by Max Thomson on Sep-29-2009 20:17:
Re: Re: This is what a police state looks like (G20: Pittsburgh Protest Videos)
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Originally posted by Clovis
The indiscretions and hostility of law enforcement agencies in this country vis a vis protesting has been an issue for years no matter who is running the government.
true, but if we're still kicking the shit out of college students for exercising their constitutional rights and fighting meaningless wars just like we were in the 60s and 70s, has anything really changed?
Posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985 on Oct-06-2009 19:48:
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Originally posted by jerZ07002
that was pretty fucking tame. I've seen street fights between 2 people inflict more wide ranging damage than anything in those videos.
do those dumb ass kids even know what they are protesting? i bet most of them are there because they think it's a good time.
actually yes its a cakewalk compared to the mass slaughters and death that occured for the G8 in Genoa italy couple years ago, check it out :
Posted by Krypton on Oct-06-2009 21:29:
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Originally posted by SiLveR_NrGy_985
actually yes its a cakewalk compared to the mass slaughters and death that occured for the G8 in Genoa italy couple years ago, check it out :
That is one epic riot.
Posted by occrider on Oct-08-2009 06:38:
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Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Ok, again, this means states may not accept anything but gold and silver as legal payment.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand...
To coin money, not to be confused with, print money.
Done. Anything else?
Seriously what is wrong with you people? Do you lack the education or not take the time to understand what you're talking about? If we even go by your ludicrous claims that the government should be confined to such a narrow, antiquitated scope of responsibilities according to the constitution (which would be a false claim even going by strict constitutional law), you guys are balls ass crazy.
I will try to outline ONE out of numerous issues of craziness. If you guys had your way, the Automated Clearing House payment system which is managed by the federal reserve would be abolished. In other words forget about making any transactions via the electronic payments network ... no debit card transactions, no payroll direct deposits, no social security payments, no direct debits of any kind, no business to business payments, etc, etc, etc ... I mean what fuck is wrong with you people? At least become marginally educated about the nonsense you're spouting.
Posted by jugheadsmith on Nov-23-2013 08:56:
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The Court argued with the doctrine of implied powers, stating that to be �necessary and proper� the Bank needed only to be useful in helping the government meet its responsibilities in maintaining the public credit and regulating the money supply. -- pkcRAISTLIN
My thoughts are derived from rulings by the Supreme Court. How is the Fed maintaining public credit, is it maintaining proper credit. Is the money supply reflective of true value, Congress determines that value, is the Fed able to verify Congress is correct?
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Then Hamilton offered a proposed rule of discretion: �Does the proposed measure abridge a pre-existing right of any State or of any individual?� --pkcRAISTLIN
If Washington agreed because Hamilton described limits including and not limited to States Rights and individuals, then the Supreme court ruling never recognizes any bank responsible to the State or the individuals. Jefferson is correct in his argument that Congress will not know any limit to their power.
I just a dumb ass looking for the answers, thats all. But in America it always seems to be an argument of depredation, degradation and decline.
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