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Yeah cause we felt the need to listen to the claims of "sold out, sold out, only 25 hard copies left.." and plan ahead. What a joke.
i planned ahead because of the mess two years ago (line was slow two years ago, not as bad as his year), so i got there a 10:15ish. i still almost didnt make it in (i had to come back at 1:30 after the cops left). if that's not planning ahead, i will be sre to camp at the place next time 24 hrs before the show.
they are the ones that need o plan ahead. they knew from two years ago that it took forever to get people in. seems like this year they were more concerned on getting additional money at the door.
I didn't attend the show two years ago, but those around me in line said that it was a great success compared to last night's clusterfuck, in terms of crowd control, processing the line, and all that. Even if everyone had made it into the show, we would have deserved at least a partial refund. We arrive at 10pm and wait 2+ hours for a show that only lasts until 4am? Then, the event organizers exploit the mayhem to make an extra buck by demanding an additional $20 for access? Those of us who refused to be extorted automatically lost 30-40% of the value of our tickets just due to the wait.
The inevitable protest that ensued then caused us to lose 100% of the value of our tickets. That's $67 for me (yeah, go ahead, I'm a dumbass), but it's even worse for the people who paid for tickets, drove in from out of state, paid $20 for parking, paid an extra $20 for "express tickets," and then still couldn't get in.
I suspect that the police were expecting something. I approached one around 10pm to ask whether I would get a ticket for parking across the street (for free!). He replied that every available cop in the area was allocated for the event, and it was very unlikely they'd cross the street at all, since the show was enough to "keep their hands full." Well, he was right!
Plenty of people made it into the show, but A LOT of people were swindled. If you want to read some more accounts, check out the comments to my video and the FB event page (and Devin's wall):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHMvT7Dngt0
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?re...96148813&ref=ts
Does it make me an asshole because this whole scenario makes me laugh and scream "told ya so"?
wow... that sucks. would really love to hear what the promoters have to say, but usually when it comes to shit like this they like to keep their mouth shut.
good luck in getting refunds for those who will try.
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| Originally posted by trancension Does it make me an asshole because this whole scenario makes me laugh and scream "told ya so"? |
Sorry
Hopefully Liquified does the right thing and refunds ya'll.
I haven't been this confused since the end of No Way Out.....
So reading someone's account, were they really using pepper spray inside the venue? I've talked to some folks who got there early and had no idea any of this even went on...
that was me who said that. i dont know who did it. i assume so dumb kid. i saw a lot of people covering their moth. my friend pulled me away since i didnt notice since it didnt affect me.
for anyone who was their, it was by the entrance side by the bars at 1:30
I had seen an account on another site where it was mentioned as well, I was wondered how the Hell the cops could be inside causing drama and people not know about it.
We fully understand the frustrations of our customer and we are formulating a press release now to better explain what happened last night. There are so many underlying factors and behind the scenes things that were completely beyond our control in this situation. We are having to work through things with our attorney before we can put a proper release out there with what is being done to rectify the situation. We should have something together for everyone by tomorrow.
Thanks
Liquified
I'd say it's a safe bet that we probably shouldn't have more shows at the Trade Center. Their staff seems awful when I went two years ago and it doesn't sound like they've improved whatsoever.
The only event I remember hearing go well there was MJ's party but I'm assuming the turnout for that was nowhere near 5000.
mst be some serious things going on if devin gets his lawyer involved. hope this doesnt get ugly.
I also was not able to attend the show I had a friend with a extra ticket that I had paid for night of and was also turned away. Had a feeling things werent going to go right and I was right. The let down is getting very old.
I don't see how Devin / Liquified could explain this, or how it's anyone's fault other than their own:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU-4XSSQ6Go
Who sells the tickets? Who checks "will call" at the door of all the events?
Don't try to host an event that you can't handle. Don't try to host an event at the SAME venue if you can't learn from previous mistakes.
Accept the fact that you guys royally fucked up and pissed a LOT of people off.
lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfRY...feature=channel
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| Originally posted by trancension lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfRY...feature=channel |
The blame for last night might be distributed among many parties: NATC, GCPD, unruly clubbers, event staff, Liquified. Ultimately, the victims are going to blame the company listed first on the flyer, and I think that's reasonable.
People tend to praise Liquified when it organizes an epic show, so why should Liquified skirt responsibility when there's an epic failure? I'm sure we'll hear an explanation for the failure, but it's simply shocking that Liquified and the event staff couldn't step up and dynamically respond to the issues outside -- by opening more entrances, repurposing security personnel, what have you -- especially when you consider that the reputation of the business was at stake. I mean, Liquified's name is on the flyer: Why shouldn't we expect answers and a prompt apology?
NATC and Liquified had 500-1000 people waiting outside for 2-3 hours. That's ~1875 person-hours, and ~$37500 for tickets alone, potentially $37500 of lost future sales if Liquified were to plan a comparable event for next year. At what point does someone -- anyone -- running the show glance outside, take some initiative, and say, "This is a likely shitstorm. This situation might hurt someone, and it will definitely hurt our bottom line. Maybe we should adopt a new strategy?" That's not a hypothetical question. I'm genuinely curious why that didn't happen.
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| Originally posted by Calamar The blame for last night might be distributed among many parties: NATC, GCPD, unruly clubbers, event staff, Liquified. Ultimately, the victims are going to blame the company listed first on the flyer, and I think that's reasonable. People tend to praise Liquified when it organizes an epic show, so why should Liquified skirt responsibility when there's an epic failure? I'm sure we'll hear an explanation for the failure, but it's simply shocking that Liquified and the event staff couldn't step up and dynamically respond to the issues outside -- by opening more entrances, repurposing security personnel, what have you -- especially when you consider that the reputation of the business was at stake. I mean, Liquified's name is on the flyer: Why shouldn't we expect answers and a prompt apology? NATC and Liquified had 500-1000 people waiting outside for 2-3 hours. That's ~1875 person-hours, and ~$37500 for tickets alone, potentially $37500 of lost future sales if Liquified were to plan a comparable event for next year. At what point does someone -- anyone -- running the show glance outside, take some initiative, and say, "This is a likely shitstorm. This situation might hurt someone, and it will definitely hurt our bottom line. Maybe we should adopt a new strategy?" That's not a hypothetical question. I'm genuinely curious why that didn't happen. |
First of all, I was asking earlier about VIP tickets. I am GLAD AS HELL I didn't buy any; the VIP "area" was a joke.
Second of all, last night was indeed an epic failure. People waited in line for 3 hours. Then about 500-1000 were forced to leave. They reopened the doors after those people left, and I got in a little before 2 AM. His set sucked until the very last hour, and even then it was pretty generic Tiesto (although Tiesto is good, so generic Tiesto is good, but anyways)
Also, it was indeed a security officer inside who threw some type of mustard gas inside, everyone was crying. I think it was to disperse a fight that was breaking out.
Man, oh man, and I spent $60 on a hotel, $20 on fucking parking. It was ridiculous. I don't blame Liquified as much as NATC, although I hope they send out refunds.
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| Originally posted by mistiso Wow! Anytime I've ever interacted with him, he's always been a bit of a douche bag, but that's just WAY over the top. Unless, of course, he had to go take a massive dump? |
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| Originally posted by snatonsb Hope another promoter group comes out to do something epic to shut down Liquified. |
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| Originally posted by enydo Really? You hope that happens? All due respect, Liquified has done an enormous amount for the scene in Atlanta as far as I know. Their shows usually go well, and I've never had any problem with any event I've been too. Hoping that they get shot down based on one fucked up situation which we don't even have solid, concrete details on is a pretty shitty outlook. Yeah, it was a fucked situation last night, but from the sound of it it was WAY beyond their control. You think they were just sitting there last night laughing as all this happened? It was probably pure chaos, and in a situation like that where you have large crowds of mostly inebriated people, things tend to get out of hand and escalate quickly. The police were just doing their jobs, as shitty as that is. Fact of the matter is, shit happens. When you're trying to coordinate an event that is drawing 5000 people there are a lot of things that can go wrong, and a show like this where people are usually off their tits before they even enter it can be even worse. Were there issues that should have been fixed before the show? Probably, but you can't just blame the promotion company when chances are they had very little to do with what actually went down, and even less control over things once it actually happened. |
The main gripes I'm hearing about is the charging of 20bucks to cut in. I'd be willing to bet that that was by the ticket staff who is probably NATC staff and not Liquified related. That would be hard to control as that is just the NATC staff attempting to line their pockets.
I'd say Liquified mismanaged the show, yes. Especially considering the clusterfuck that happened last time. But for them to bear the brunt of the blame when it was clearly the NATC staff and incensed and inebriated throng of people is just miiiildly unjust.
And for the record, name some other Liquified shows that went badly (Caution Bipolar excluded for flipping out at Wetbar as that was a Wetbar issue).
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