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Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-23-2009 11:24:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
People on this forum, including you, have reputations to uphold. If I allow that dipshit to ruin my reputation that effects how people view me and help me out on this forum, which in turn winds up rubbing off into my music.

You certainly do keep up your reputation.


Posted by floyd741 on Oct-23-2009 12:24:

i think echosystm is a pretty cool guy. eh pwns robby rox and doesn't afraid of anything.


Posted by Richard Butler on Oct-23-2009 14:14:

Sommink we learned in MMA (Israeli Krav Maga mainly) is to rise above insults and not feel you have to fight everyone.
Be they on the road or a forum. It's more dignified to let it go.


Posted by doublenegative on Oct-26-2009 12:26:

Robby Rox is awesome. Every post of his is an unintentional comedy goldmine.

Every forum needs a complete spastic to laugh at, and he does a great job at filling that position.


Posted by floyd741 on Oct-26-2009 12:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Richard Butler
Sommink we learned in MMA (Israeli Krav Maga mainly) is to rise above insults and not feel you have to fight everyone.
Be they on the road or a forum. It's more dignified to let it go.


NO BECUZ THEN EVERYBODY THINKS YOUR A PUSSY


Posted by Zak McKracken on Oct-26-2009 12:53:

quote:
Originally posted by atxbigballer1
What are u going to do when 5 comes out?
Are u still going to use 4 4ever?

r u dyslectic? u see numbers that arent there and shit?


Posted by -FSP- on Oct-28-2009 02:14:

I hate people on music forums because I can hide behind a keybaord.

I hate you all. Come get me imo.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-28-2009 02:16:

quote:
Originally posted by -FSP-
I hate people on music forums because I can hide behind a keybaord.

I hate you all. Come get me imo.

I have your IP address and will send my hacker friends after you.

[Someone actually sent me an angry PM saying that yesterday after I made fun of him in MD. :-)]


Posted by atxbigballer1 on Oct-28-2009 02:21:

I have your home address and i will send all my gay home boys to gang rape you! lol/jk


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Oct-28-2009 02:42:

I will be laying low with the hate comments after this thread I should note.
The only thing that ever really bothered me is people on this forum are so quick to assume someone is stupid rather then the liklihood they just lack the majority of experience that guys on this forum have.
When you guys demean me for being "stupid" I defend myself, and during the process of defending myself it seems some of you get offended as well, well no shit leave me the fuck alone what do you expect?

However, when people start putting me in the same boat as chrono, that tells me its time to ease off. In real life noones ever refered or implied to me as a "spastic" so that tells me I do a great job at miscommunicating what kind of person I really am here.

I do whine and complain, but in my mind its justifed. Cause as smart as a lot of you do seem, it never seems you're smart enough to understand that I am ALLOWED to be unexperienced, and that doesn't afford you the right to insult me for it.

Whatever the case, great, some of you think its cool. But at the end of the day not everyone is like that, and as much as Id like to hate Egos, or mfitter, or echosystem, you guys don't really seem to take what I say personally, and CAN laugh about it, so that to me is cool. I'm sure we'll get into it again but I do have a better understanding now of how to avoid it, and thats to simply not take it to heart. So if I offended people I apologize. I doubt I'll ever get an apology for people blasting me in my torrent thread where this seems to have started, but w/e, do what you guys do. I don't have to like you like best friends I only really need to tolerate you, and I know I can do that.

peace


Posted by mysticalninja on Oct-29-2009 01:26:

A body builder being an insecure dumb ass who worries about his reputation? Who would of ever thought that's possible.


Posted by RichieV on Oct-29-2009 02:19:

i don't mind him. I think he is just as guilty as others for hating but he shows it in a more passive way. I think he is a little delusional regarding his aptitude in music and some of his comments are a little frustrating considering his level of competence with music. But at least he tries to have a discussion and I respect that. He wants to learn and you can't blame someone for not being a professional.

And there is nothing wrong with lifting weights. I drink protein shakes and go to the gym 5 days a week. I don't think you have to be a meat head to have a healthy lifestyle.


Posted by johncannons1 on Oct-29-2009 03:19:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV

And there is nothing wrong with lifting weights. I drink protein shakes and go to the gym 5 days a week. I don't think you have to be a meat head to have a healthy lifestyle.


agreed
i do the same


Posted by Stef on Oct-29-2009 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Does that make you happy who cares? Listen to you, its you and 1 other person. I have got complaints already about your attitude from other people who can not stand you. People who are happy that I know you're trash.
You are low life scum and so is your friend.
I dont give a shit what you say your are one of the most immature people on this forum, and more people agree with me cause you as a whole add less to this site.

I'm going to start hanging around here a lot more often I hope you get use to it. You will come to enjoy me like chinese water torture.


echosystem for mod!


Posted by echosystm on Oct-29-2009 04:16:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
I drink protein shakes and go to the gym 5 days a week. I don't think you have to be a meat head to have a healthy lifestyle.


quote:
Originally posted by johncannons1
agreed
i do the same


fyi, protein shakes are not healthy. seriously, stop wasting your money on them. whey is a waste material that supplement companies filter and sell for a high profit. the reality is that all protein protein powders (other than casein) are far too quickly digested. the quick absorption means that very little of it is actually used to repair muscle damage, even if you take it after weights. this results in pressure on your renal system and unhealthily high blood-urea levels.

the entire supplement industry is driven by nonsensical pseudo-scientific claims. you do NOT need 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight. this is just propaganda spread by supplement companies to increase sales. you will find no scientific support for this. the most comprehensive study on protein requirements of athletes, that i know of, found that much more than ~1g of protein per kg of body weight (roughly half the typical bodybuilder recommendation) resulted in high blood urea levels. this indicates the protein isn't actually getting used. these athletes were training all day every day, so your typical amateur bodybuilder would require even less.

long story short: don't get sucked in to the hype. supplements are a waste of money. even multivitamins don't get asborbed, because your body can only absorb vitamins in small traces, not a few hundred mg at a time. if you're determined to stick with them, only take ~10g protein at a time and split your vitamins into quarters. also, don't read bodybuilding forums, they are full of brainwashed morons lol.


Posted by RichieV on Oct-29-2009 04:46:

I don't really consider myself a bodybuilder. IT is exercise that helps me relax. My girlfriend is a vegetarian so I don't get to eat meat often and I enjoy my protein shake. I think you are describing individuals that take things too far to look good. That isn't me.


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Oct-29-2009 05:20:

Only here can you get protein shake discussion on a production forum...


Posted by kitphillips on Oct-29-2009 06:16:

You can all swallow my fucking protein shake


Posted by EgosXII on Oct-29-2009 08:35:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
I don't really consider myself a bodybuilder. IT is exercise that helps me relax. My girlfriend is a vegetarian so I don't get to eat meat often and I enjoy my protein shake. I think you are describing individuals that take things too far to look good. That isn't me.


lol he;s saying protein shakes are completely useless for human bodies, has nothing to do with you in particular, or anyone's workout in general...


Posted by Fledz on Oct-29-2009 09:41:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
fyi, protein shakes are not healthy. seriously, stop wasting your money on them. whey is a waste material that supplement companies filter and sell for a high profit. the reality is that all protein protein powders (other than casein) are far too quickly digested. the quick absorption means that very little of it is actually used to repair muscle damage, even if you take it after weights. this results in pressure on your renal system and unhealthily high blood-urea levels.

the entire supplement industry is driven by nonsensical pseudo-scientific claims. you do NOT need 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight. this is just propaganda spread by supplement companies to increase sales. you will find no scientific support for this. the most comprehensive study on protein requirements of athletes, that i know of, found that much more than ~1g of protein per kg of body weight (roughly half the typical bodybuilder recommendation) resulted in high blood urea levels. this indicates the protein isn't actually getting used. these athletes were training all day every day, so your typical amateur bodybuilder would require even less.

long story short: don't get sucked in to the hype. supplements are a waste of money. even multivitamins don't get asborbed, because your body can only absorb vitamins in small traces, not a few hundred mg at a time. if you're determined to stick with them, only take ~10g protein at a time and split your vitamins into quarters. also, don't read bodybuilding forums, they are full of brainwashed morons lol.


...the fuck? Where the hell did you read to take 1g of protein per 1 pound
That's moronic.

Supplements aren't rubbish. Yes, people do over-do them and hence put strain on their kidneys but it's ridiculous to say they are a waste of money for people that use them properly.

How is it up there on your skyscraper sized horse? Let me go get you a pony.


Posted by Nightshift on Oct-29-2009 09:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Only here can you get protein shake discussion on a production forum...


LOL. TROOF.


Posted by echosystm on Oct-29-2009 13:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
...the fuck? Where the hell did you read to take 1g of protein per 1 pound


it's probably the most common myth spread around the bodybuilding community. some people advocate upwards of 2g.

quote:
The general rule, in terms of protein intake for size gains has, for some time, been one-gram of protein per pound of bodyweight. Certainly, the recommended daily allowance (RDA), for the general population, of 0.8 grams per kilogram of bodyweight is way off the mark for bodybuilders and other strength athletes.

A nitrogen balance study of bodybuilders demonstrated an increased protein need relative to controls and estimated the RDA for bodybuilders to be 1.7 g/kg total.

In another study, impressive strength gains of 5% and size of 6% were seen over several months of strength training in world-class weight lifters when they increased their dietary protein from 1.8 to 3.5 g/kg of body weight per day.


Source: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson75.htm

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
That's moronic.


yep!

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Supplements aren't rubbish. Yes, people do over-do them and hence put strain on their kidneys but it's ridiculous to say they are a waste of money for people that use them properly.


anything more than about 10g of whey (that is 1/3 to 1/4 a normal shake scoop) will not get used. in general, all supplements (protein, aminos, vitamins, etc.) should be taken at a fraction of the recommended dose, but at higher frequency. most pro bodybuilders (coleman, etc.) have one shake pwo and that's all. real food is far superior.

think about it... there is a fraction of a gram of creatine in a steak. when you take 3g of creatine in pure form, your body is just going to go "wtf is this shit lol! out the piss pipe for you". this applies to almost every supplement in existence.


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-29-2009 14:30:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
anything more than about 10g of whey (that is 1/3 to 1/4 a normal shake scoop) will not get used.

Source?

[Edit: I thought that lactalbumin (whey) protein was easily assimilated by the body, as it is what's given to patients on a protein-sparing modified fast diet. The diet basically consists of four "shakes" per day with vitamins, some sugar, essential fatty acids, and about 60g protein per shake. It has been proven to spare muscle even at quite a high caloric deficit, so it seems the protein must be getting used somehow. See this study, for example.]


Posted by parafrNalia on Oct-29-2009 14:58:

quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Source?

[Edit: I thought that lactalbumin (whey) protein was easily assimilated by the body, as it is what's given to patients on a protein-sparing modified fast diet. The diet basically consists of four "shakes" per day with vitamins, some sugar, essential fatty acids, and about 60g protein per shake. It has been proven to spare muscle even at quite a high caloric deficit, so it seems the protein must be getting used somehow. See this study, for example.]


Do you know something about everything?

(No, I am not being sarcastic)


Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Oct-29-2009 15:20:

Not really, my interests are actually fairly narrow: music and production, science, computers, nutrition and health. Although I dabble in other stuff, too. But if you asked me how to fix a problem with your car or air conditioner, for example, or even about most world politics, I would be pretty clueless. :-)


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