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Originally posted by DEAD_MOOSE yikes. another great example of someone with the belief they need the most up to date equipment/software to be able to perform. just like the idiots who go straight to a apple laptop because "you need one to be a pro". we all see them.

Hey Dumbass, stop putting words in my mouth. Go read what I said again. I asked you how you run Logic on a PC. I never said I believe people need the most up-to-date equipment/software to be able to perform. Just because you failed to understand a simple question and failed to reply in the proper manner, I think you just made yourself look like an idiot.

And by the way, you need to stop observing what other people do so much and concentrate on your ownself. It seems like you got alot of self confidence issues. Which justifies why you go around exerting your best effort to put others down. It makes you feel alot better, doesn't it.

Also, people like Cryophonik who own alot of expensive gear .. atleast they are putting it to use and they are selling records and that's their hobby also.
So Dead_Moose, where is your myspace with your 'uber-tracks' with your 'not-so-uber gear'? Rather than shit-talking, let us listen to some of your productions. Then we can all be the judge.

lol @ people thinking EDM is musically complex. Productionally complex? maybe. But musically complex? not by a long shot. Its easy to believe that when mainstream music is hip hop, pop, and alternative rock though. There are a massive amount of music forms out there that I didn't even know about till I took World Music in college that are far more complex than EDM and once your hear them you soon realize just how simple EDM is musically.

i don't think it is fair to seperate production and music. Production is really just a new form of composition. You can have the same chords yet a different song.

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Originally posted by Nightshift lol @ people thinking EDM is musically complex. Productionally complex? maybe. But musically complex? not by a long shot. Its easy to believe that when mainstream music is hip hop, pop, and alternative rock though. There are a massive amount of music forms out there that I didn't even know about till I took World Music in college that are far more complex than EDM and once your hear them you soon realize just how simple EDM is musically.

Exactly! And, the problem here is that people are confusing complexity with "good" and simplicity with "bad" and see having their music as labeled simple as some sort of insult. That's not the case at all. In many ways, it's more difficult to keep it simple and interesting than it is to make it complex and keep it interesting. Some of the most recognizable melodies and most highly regarded tracks are utterly simple. That's one point that my composition and counterpoint professors pounded into my thick cranium for 4 years - don't make it more difficult, complex, or busy than it needs to be. This is especially applicable to dance music. People dancing at a club don't want complexity, they want consistency.

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Originally posted by RichieV i don't think it is fair to seperate production and music. Production is really just a new form of composition. You can have the same chords yet a different song.

Huh?

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Originally posted by cryophonik People dancing at a club don't want complexity, they want consistency.

that is aiming for the lowest denominator no ? Not saying it isn't true but if nobody takes some risks, we would be stuck with the same song being played over and over. I agree that you should not make things artificially complex but making things artificially simple is just as bad imo.

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Originally posted by hexadecimal Huh?

if you have the same chords and melody yet the song is different , there must be something about the production that is changing the final musical composition.

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Originally posted by RichieV if you have the same chords and melody yet the song is different , there must be something about the production that is changing the final musical composition.

Oh, that totally clears things up. Thanks.

what specifically do you not get ? Nobody is making new chords or melodies. They are taking things done before and applying a new production esthetic. Production is the only thing making compositions new and worth listening to. This has been true for the last 30 years.

No don't worry, you made perfect sense of what your first post said with your last post. It's all clear as day now. You have to take the production out of the music if you want to make chords the same but different, which makes it unfair to say that production isn't the same as sound.

you must love the sound of your own voice.

As I sad this before: "music for me is a form of expression, way to show the rest of the world my mood, my fillings, my emotional stage at that moment in time when you create my music. I like that freedom with no boundaries, no restrictions, no rules setup by somebody else � it is only me and my music.

All of us have the same goal that people will connect with our music, appreciate our effort, and understand the language we talk to them. That language is music and that�s what the whole think is about, nothing more and nothing less, just pure music.

I know that this is not going to be easy, but this is the road which I decide to take. I may be a bumpy ride but at last is in the direction of my choice."

This is what I have to say to all TA artists and producers. If you do not like my music, it is fine with me.

Stay cool everyone. Let's the music rule the World

I have lots of pro gear. I enjoy looking at it late at night, as I'm wondering about WTF too do with my life.

how do u chek if ur geer is "pro"? i c'nat find it nowheres

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Originally posted by hexadecimal how do u chek if ur geer is "pro"? i c'nat find it nowheres

you will find it in the "pro" section at the computer store

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Originally posted by hexadecimal how do u chek if ur geer is "pro"? i c'nat find it nowheres

It should say "Pro" right on the front of the unit. If it doesn't, then you're using amateur gear.

o yea i 4got bout that haha

Is my music/gear ratio off, oh great know-er of everything? (see MySpace link in sig)

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Originally posted by alanzo Is my music/gear ratio off, oh great know-er of everything? (see MySpace link in sig)

That cat looks pretty amateur to me.

LMFAO @ OBLIGATORY CAT ON KEYBOARD. WHAT IS IT WITH YOU KIDS!!??!?! FUCK LOL

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Originally posted by alanzo Is my music/gear ratio off, oh great know-er of everything? (see MySpace link in sig)

Ya dude you're missing the cowbell.

btw how are trackball mouses? i was thinkin about trying one out

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Originally posted by Nightshift btw how are trackball mouses?

Apparently not very good, otherwise the cat would've eaten it.

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Originally posted by cryophonik That cat looks pretty amateur to me.

What about that empty glass of beer, looks pretty amateur to me.

lololol

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