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Originally posted by Osmodiar fuck.. i just burnt my dinner because of this thread, lol. popped in wanting to check out some studio porn and ended up engrossed in flame wars

Oh, if I had a nickel for the amount of times I have forgotten about my dinner and burnt it due to porn...

(oh, I misread that)

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Originally posted by david.michael - Basing my musical skills (or lack thereof) on a single experimental track is hardly fair. And, since I know where you're going from here, I'll give you a few links to save you some time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt04bowBuFw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iEdkWuoBx4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6nCmuCLfj4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrMPPsEOyy8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpp0rIwCgwA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyROFMMaSNY

Shit dude, I hadn't heard any of those before. I like!

I've taken out the trash in here. I expect to see no further trolling. Consider this your warning.

Everybody else, please carry on.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I've taken out the trash in here. I expect to see no further trolling. Consider this your warning. Everybody else, please carry on.

Much obliged.

Next comes flooring!

If you ever find yourself lacking for inspiration, just take a look at this site:

http://dreamstudioblog.argosyconsole.com/

So many cool studios in here, I wish I had the means to set my space up like some of these professional studios.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I've taken out the trash in here. I expect to see no further trolling. Consider this your warning. Everybody else, please carry on.

Thanks Digi, I think of you as the internet garbage man on these forums sometimes, just cleaning out the crap so the rest of the population doesn't have to see.

............aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnddddd Digis new nickname is now "TA Garbage Man"

Alright, it's been 3 months since my last update in this thread, so I suppose I should post some pics. Despite the release of Starcraft II and also getting distracted by my other hobby (car stuff), I've managed to get a few things done.

Walls done, paint applied, flooring started, desk built:






Ceiling, flooring, new lighting, closet door installed...started moving a few things in.





Starting to look like a room!

Forgive the iPhone pics again, I'll try to get some better ones up at some point.

Looking nice, sir.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Looking nice, sir.

Indeed! Congrats David. You've done a great job.

The only things I don't in those pics are the speakers flat mounted on the desk, the fact they are not in front of the chair/either side of the screen and that there's no rug on the floor behind your chair (but it doesn't look completely finished in fairness).

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Indeed! Congrats David. You've done a great job. The only things I don't in those pics are the speakers flat mounted on the desk, the fact they are not in front of the chair/either side of the screen and that there's no rug on the floor behind your chair (but it doesn't look completely finished in fairness).

Thanks

I plan on putting a rug down and fixing the flat-mounted speaker situation. As far as the actual location of the speakers, I put them there thinking they would be better placement in the room itself. I might move them though. I basically tossed all that stuff on the desk today because I was anxious to actually have a working setup for once, lol.

That's gonna be a kiler studio when it's done! The piano is a nice touch.

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Originally posted by cryophonik That's gonna be a kiler studio when it's done! The piano is a nice touch.

That little piano is great. I've had it for close to 20 years (holy shit, I never realized that until just this moment) and I've had it tuned a handful of times (when I've moved), but it hardly ever even needs it. It always sounds really good, even when moving locations or putting it in different environments (like a basement, for example).

I kinda want to refinish it, but I'm a little nervous to take on that project.

I may have missed something here like I dunno maybe you have a second pair of monitors going to be either side of your screens, but if not, why on gods earth are your speakers where they are?!?

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Originally posted by david.michael As far as the actual location of the speakers, I put them there thinking they would be better placement in the room itself. I might move them though. I basically tossed all that stuff on the desk today because I was anxious to actually have a working setup for once, lol.

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Originally posted by Lunar Phase 7 I may have missed something here like I dunno maybe you have a second pair of monitors going to be either side of your screens, but if not, why on gods earth are your speakers where they are?!?

He wants them equally spaced around the mic, so as he records with it he can also play the sound back, creating a feedback loop and killer distortion.

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Originally posted by david.michael

Maybe so for placement in the room. But how about placement of your head?

Are you really going to spend all off your time mixing down without looking at the screens?

Looks awesome btw, I just couldn't understand the reasoning. No hate here!

It's a fair point. Like I said, I just tossed them up, made sure everything still worked, and then snapped a pic.

I should clarify, I hadn't used that computer or audio interface for like a year as I was building this room. Since then, I had upgraded to Windows 7, tossed some more RAM in, but never tested to make sure I could still get sound. (As it turns out, I couldn't... I had to go through quite the run-around to get sound again!)

Is that an Atari ST?

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Originally posted by Watts Is that an Atari ST?

No the Atari ST didn't have darker coloured function keys - the amiga 500 did but they are not spaced like that either so I think it's probably just an after market PC keyboard.

It's actually a Commodore 128

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Originally posted by david.michael It's actually a Commodore 128

That's awesome. What do you use it for? SID music?

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Originally posted by aquila That's awesome. What do you use it for? SID music?

That's the idea... I'd like to start using it to play with in some of my productions. I've yet to really get it set up, though. I have a MSSIAH cartridge and a SID2SID board (which will let me use two SID chips, for stereo/double voices). I still want to get a Commodore mouse and a USB capture card (to see the output on my regular screen in a window) but I haven't gotten that far, yet.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Indeed! Congrats David. You've done a great job. The only things I don't in those pics are the speakers flat mounted on the desk, the fact they are not in front of the chair/either side of the screen and that there's no rug on the floor behind your chair (but it doesn't look completely finished in fairness).

So in the last few weeks received a couple of PM's asking to explain why not to flat mount your monitors. It may be old news and obvious to some but I thought I would post up the reasons as to why right here:

Firstly, you get what is commonly called "desk splash" which is where sound waves produced by the speaker driver hit the flat surface directly below the speaker and bounce up to the listener.

This creates a secondary relection of the original signal, which arrives slightly delayed to the listener and even colored as the frequencies react differently with the surface (some absorbed, some reflected). This reflection also can bounce off (again factor in frequency for variance) in a different direction and can blur the true stereo image. This means you won't hear the signal as a true representation of what it actually is, either in terms of clarity, frequency or stereo field.

Secondly, speakers, even on stands with a flat base let alone a flat surface like a desk, should always be de-coupled. To simplify, this is because there are various factors dictating speaker design and if a speaker enclosure is in full contact with another material it can influence the way the speakers essentially produce sound. The classic example is essentially vibrational feedback, where the speakers (mainly low) frequency is transferred to the stand or surface which in turn vibrates but some of this passes back to the speakers (due to vibrational dynamics - think rings in a pond when you throw a stone in).

By decoupling the speaker, you're allowing the speaker to behave as it really shoud regardless of the contact medium which can dampen or colour it's sound reproduction, so in essence the speaker has no outside forces apart from temperature and air density to affect it.

For increbly large speakers such as the PMC BM2 (about 80 pounds or 35 kilos each) which even have their own steel stands, we use "Blue Dots" or Sorbothane to decouple.

With smaller monitors, you can easily just use Auralex Mopads or upturned half squash balls (medium density) under the speakers.

So basically, at least decouple your speakers, if not use proper stands or mopads as a minimum to get the best reproduction from your speakers.

Rann I was thinking of getting some Mopads for my HS80Ms, are they worth the money or would a cheaper/homemade alternative be just as good?

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