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Posted by Swamper on Nov-13-2009 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
Yah i'm not a fan of hijacked threads or hijacking threads, but the thread was already hijacked when I chipped in


No excuse. If you have nothing to contribute then don't click the reply button. Save it for the c0r


Posted by DjWoody on Nov-13-2009 02:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
i took a quick phone video of what i'm working in the studio last night.. i'll post a better sample when i get off work

http://vidly.com/bGgf


Sounds dope! Good job!


Posted by Kismet7 on Nov-13-2009 02:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Swamper
No excuse. If you have nothing to contribute then don't click the reply button. Save it for the c0r


Being that this forum, is one of the most civil of the active forums. Why doesnt COR have a moderator, being the most uncivilized? Because if you think about, the behaviour at COR by adults no less is prime reason why we have problems in other forums on this site, due to the behaviour in COR being tolerated, folks think they can act like little kids infecting other parts of this site. Worth thinking over if you actually care about this site and want to build a better music community.

And why have you allowed people to completely kill off the Music Discussion forum? Why dont you have an active moderator there? I'm sure there are qualified people for that.


Posted by mfitterer1 on Nov-13-2009 12:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
Being that this forum, is one of the most civil of the active forums. Why doesnt COR have a moderator, being the most uncivilized? Because if you think about, the behaviour at COR by adults no less is prime reason why we have problems in other forums on this site, due to the behaviour in COR being tolerated, folks think they can act like little kids infecting other parts of this site. Worth thinking over if you actually care about this site and want to build a better music community.

And why have you allowed people to completely kill off the Music Discussion forum? Why dont you have an active moderator there? I'm sure there are qualified people for that.


This post is golden hilarity!


Posted by Acton on Nov-13-2009 12:53:

quote:
Originally posted by costizzle
make the release long then cut it short - simple, but works well


Release automation is a great way to build tension in my opinion. It's pretty standard, but it does the trick.

At the moment I'm playing with bass drops with pitch automation to create a build, it's going rather well so far.


Posted by Nightshift on Nov-13-2009 14:07:

still a work in progress but this is how i build tension:

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Posted by AstroB on Nov-13-2009 15:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Nightshift
still a work in progress but this is how i build tension:

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Nice!


Posted by Waza on Nov-13-2009 17:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Nightshift
still a work in progress but this is how i build tension:

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Nice sounds you've got going there.


Posted by owien on Nov-13-2009 20:30:

building a track up or creating tension comes down to either going with a set format or formats as each track is made in different ways.

a good combo of mapping ahead and spending time working on making the not so importent stuff will help in the long run.

i will also say take time to watch some good techno producrs thier ways of building things up are worty thinking about.


Posted by Beatflux on Nov-13-2009 23:16:

-A Long sustained note
-Repeating the beginning portion of a melody
-Remove elements
-V7, V7!
-7th chords
-Chromatic Chords
-diatonic notes
-Increase BPM
-augmentation: doubling rhythm speed
-Add elements at faster intervals, example: add new elements every 4 bars instead of the typical 8
-Add noise
-Drop the kick
-Soloing one percussion hit on a downbeat, example: muting everything expect for the last clap in an 8 bar section
-Augmenting things that people don't expect to hear based on genre, example: breakbeat kickdrum pattern in a trance tune
- Drum rolls
-White noise sweeps
-Increase overall volume
-Instrument with significantly varying volume
-Make the breakdown 8 bars
-Increase or decrease note length in a melody
-non-chordal tones on strong beats that resolve to chordal tones
-Long reverb on a single percussion hit
-Automating distortion
-Shortening or lengthening percussion notes
-Adding or subtracting elements not exactly at the beginning of the bar
-Ending the melody on something other than the tonic
-Start the melody on something other than the tonic
-Silencing half of a drum rhythm
-Pan everything that should be mono to one side or the other
-Lower the lead hook in volume and slap a shitload of reverb on it, and never bring it back up again
-Disable reverb on a lead temporarily, work well if you solo it to make it stand out
-Shuffle
-automate swing to "slow" down a song
-Play bass notes to make it sound like a lead temporarily
-play a scale upward for 2 or more octaves
-use "cheap" DJ effects on your entire mix like temporarily low cutting
-Ping pong a pluck back and forth from left to right
-Add pitch automation on longer sustained notes
-Temporarily detune an entire melody or single note
-Use something else besides the major scale
-Switch keys in the middle of a song
-Put only one clap in a one bar loop
-Use eq to bandpass a lead temporarily
-Make a rhythm or lead rising in volume for a long duration of time
-turn the side chained compressor on and off
Repeat a melody with a lower cutoff or volume
-Repeat a melody with a completely different patch
-Morph a plucky lead saw into a soft pad
-32 bar piano solo
-Make a trance tune with a melody longer than 4 bars
-Repeat a melody with a different chords for pads
-automate volume LFO on a long sustained element
-automate two LFO's to peak at completely opposite times
-Make a song with varying RMS values
-Make a trance tune and a hip-hop tune, and then mash them together
-Take elements that aren't in the genre you are producing, and shove them in
-Only play each melody one time
-Vary what the groove of the track is driven by(it could be percussion, bass, or leads)
-Drop the bass in a track, and never bring it back until the very end
-Loop one bar for 16 measures, then make changes every 4 bars for 16 bars
-Drive your song with only percussion made out of FX
-Thicken up leads with noise or extra layers
-On the other hand...subtract layers for a breakdown
-chain two breakdowns in a row
-make the breakdown the end of the song
-start the song from the breakdown
-temporarily disable autotune
-don't use autotune at all
-use autotune for only the chorus
-detune notes for a human feel
-Repeat shit
-Do the opposite of what everyone expects you to do


Posted by Zak McKracken on Nov-14-2009 11:42:

pretty much covers it.


Posted by Kysora on Nov-14-2009 15:18:

Actually there's one thing that I think really works well that I haven't seen mentioned yet -- turning an 8 bar phrase into a 10 bar phrase and using the extra 2 bars as a transition into a new phrase. Usually throws the listener off and gives the next phrase a lot more impact, IMO.


Posted by Beatflux on Nov-14-2009 19:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Kysora
Actually there's one thing that I think really works well that I haven't seen mentioned yet -- turning an 8 bar phrase into a 10 bar phrase and using the extra 2 bars as a transition into a new phrase. Usually throws the listener off and gives the next phrase a lot more impact, IMO.


While you are at it, change time signatures a few times just to fuck people up...


Posted by crazedonee on Nov-15-2009 02:34:

be creative do something unexpected!


Posted by music2dance2 on Nov-18-2009 09:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
you have to try everything on every sound and see how it effects it... from long delay's (building up), to pitch's, to LFOs, to filters, to sustain'd notes, to whitenoise, to an alternative sound pitching up, to stutters, reverbs etc.

i took a quick phone video of what i'm working in the studio last night.. i'll post a better sample when i get off work

http://vidly.com/bGgf


Sounds phat bro, finished it yet? Hit me up on e-mail with a sample if poss dude. Cheers


Posted by DjStephenWiley on Nov-18-2009 15:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
Being that this forum, is one of the most civil of the active forums. Why doesnt COR have a moderator, being the most uncivilized? Because if you think about, the behaviour at COR by adults no less is prime reason why we have problems in other forums on this site, due to the behaviour in COR being tolerated, folks think they can act like little kids infecting other parts of this site. Worth thinking over if you actually care about this site and want to build a better music community.

And why have you allowed people to completely kill off the Music Discussion forum? Why dont you have an active moderator there? I'm sure there are qualified people for that.


Or somebody could grow some stones and just get rid of the people who come here to behave like children. No reason not to.

Imagine a our production board filled with pure production related discussion, rich in information, etc. Instead, people are forced to filter through bullshit because certain members just want to stir shit for the sake of it and make snarky comments based on grudges, boredom, or whatever.

You better be glad I am not a moderator because you're right. This place would probably be a ghost town. I would rule this board with an iron fist.


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