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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Noise is one genre it seems pretty much everyone feels comfortable hating on. If you look up noise tracks on YouTube there are almost always like two or three negative comments for every positive one. So many people who feel compelled to express their distaste.

I can understand it, I just can't fully enjoy the experience. By the way, can you post both a track you like and a track you dislike?

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Originally posted by ivofivo TYVM but most enjoy Melodies in their music. Not loops.

lol.. do you consider that ti�sto-track in your OP to be trance?

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Originally posted by Lira I can understand it, I just can't fully enjoy the experience. By the way, can you post both a track you like and a track you dislike?

My favorite Merzbow is one that used to be up on YouTube, called "1930." I can't find it anymore, though. I do enjoy the one I posted, "Minus Zero."

Here is one I don't like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJj-eMIulZY

For me it comes down to whether I can enjoy the sound textures that are used. I don't like stuff that uses too many white noise bursts, for example.

I also like stuff that is basically "noise" because it's not melodic at all, but it is less intense and has a really dark and ambient atmosphere, like this:

Aphex Twin - "Gwarek2"

PBK is an artist who works with that kind of sound. There is variety in the genre, it's not all non-stop bursts and random pulses like Merzbow at his most intense. Even Merzbow has his orderly and (somewhat) melodic moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mind5HtIB_s

I'm not really too deep in the genre anyway, but I can definitely appreciate it and I even make a little myself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOJu4c_Ssw4

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Originally posted by Lira I think it's just like poetry in a language you don't speak: unless you "get it", it's hard to see its worth. I don't claim to understand noise in any way, but I can kind of tell a good track from a bad one. One is egregious, and the other is just downright intolerable

You probably won't be surprised that I'm not a fan of "free-form" poetry either

In his book on Poetry Stephen Fry gives this example:

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"cigaretted and drinked loaded against yourself you seem so yes bold irreducible but nuded and afterloved you are not so strong are you after all

Then follows with this:

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'The above is precisely the kind of worthless arse-dribble I am forced to read whenever I agree to judge a poetry competition. It took me under a minute and a half to write, and while I dare say you can see what utter wank it is, there are many who would accept it as poetry ... 'Like so much of what passes for poetry today it is also listless, utterly drained of energy and drive - a common problem with much contemporary art, but an especial problem with poetry that chooses to close itself off from all metrical pattern and form. It is like music without beat or shape or harmony: not music at all, in fact.' '...It is as if we have all been encouraged to believe that form is a kind of fascism, and that to acquire knowledge is to drive a jackboot into the face of those poor souls who are too incurious, dull-witted or idle to find out what poetry can be.'

..."arse-dribble"

I like how T.I. sounds in Timbaland's and Timberlake's - My Love, the song is kinda trancey imho.

KrisG had a great track in Production one time that blended rap with EDM.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles My favorite Merzbow is one that used to be up on YouTube, called "1930." I can't find it anymore, though. I do enjoy the one I posted, "Minus Zero."

jesus christ. i bet they used that at guantanimo.

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Originally posted by astroboy In his book on Poetry Stephen Fry gives this example:

thanks for pointing out it was fry, i got to read that passage with his voice and delivery

If you mix today's cheesy pop Trance with rap what you get is... Eurodance!
As crazy as it sounds, Armin working with Soulja Boy might actually produce the most awesome track of the decade.

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Originally posted by Meat187 If you mix today's cheesy pop Trance with rap what you get is... Eurodance! As crazy as it sounds, Armin working with Soulja Boy might actually produce the most awesome track of the decade.

Srsly?

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Originally posted by bananas Srsly?

No.

As much as I like female vocals- I wouldn't mind if a good MC would spit to a tough Trance tune.

Potential Producers to mix with Rap:

Mat Zo- Tech-Breakdowns and awesome synths that would highlight the significance of a rap song (I guess)

Myon and Shane 54- Deep, melodic and yet simple...Perfect combo for spittin.

A&B- Perhaps for softer levels of Rap.


Shit sounds restarted, oh well...I wanna see if it works.

This is how you do Hip-Hop and EDM:



Hip-Hop + Trance = nuts 'n gum

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Originally posted by ivofivo softer levels of Rap

Isn't typical trance BPM like double typical hip hop BPM anyway? It would sound ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Meat187 No.

k, I thought Frenchie hacked your account

I read the thread title as "Potential of EDM and Rape."

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Originally posted by Arbiter I read the thread title as "Potential of EDM and Rape."

that would be fucking killer !

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Originally posted by Arbiter I read the thread title as "Potential of EDM and Rape."

you would!

What kind of EDM do you like arbiter? Or is that the subject of an NDA? Do you like beautiful, cheesy uplifting melodies or do you like shit music?

Typical rap is in the 80 to 100BPM range, trance is an odd increment further up the tempo level, where as DnB is usually double raps tempo. DnB seems to work well for people spitting on top of, cause its essentially the same rhythm. Also rap and DnB are both break beats most of the times, it gives more syncopation to the beat and is easier to play off of. A straight four to the floor is going to be really awkward to rap over.

Either way, OP is retarded.

The only type of stuff that I have heard that could be considered "rap" in the slightest is whats his name from Faithless, but thats just different altogether.

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Originally posted by Sykonee Which tune was it that sampled Children again?

But....I actually like this song.....sorry....lmao.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN What kind of EDM do you like arbiter? Or is that the subject of an NDA? Do you like beautiful, cheesy uplifting melodies or do you like shit music?

I don't care for much of what passes as EDM these days, but most of what I used to listen to breaks down into three categories:

1. Late 90s/Early 00s hardtrance (e.g., Flutlicht, S.H.O.K.K., Dumonde)
2. Goa/psy (e.g., Infected Mushroom, Shpongle, MWNN)
3. Beautiful, cheesy uplifting melodies.

Excellent, I�ll update my arbiter blog so people know youre not a house or DnB �tard.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Excellent, I�ll update my arbiter blog so people know youre not a house or DnB �tard.

That is permissible...

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