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Posted by serialkillah on Jul-09-2002 08:20:

the first rebirt is a classic before the hardcore period. It isn't hardcore in the sense of dj promo or buzz fuzz, but it is a old skool classic.

There are alsow many bonzai traxx like bonzai channel one or dream your dream who fit in the same catagory.

Posted by Noisician on Jul-09-2002 12:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Jah
back to the issue at hand!
wheres the fuck dj tiesto record!

it's DJ Akira feat. Metal D - Trancetrutje (which means little trance whore/bitch). They're right, no?

Posted by robstar on Jul-09-2002 12:30:

quote:
Originally posted by NIGHTERROR
Oh Hardcore hardcore

you guys shuold firts listen the real hardcore and then judge........

SOME CORE?

ARTCORE
DARKORE
TRANCECORE

[B]FartCore???[/B) lol!!

Nah... j/k.
I�m a old hardcore junkie my self.
Hardcore can be very good but also very bad!
That goes for every genre really.
I preffer my Core between 170-200.

LateR:Z.z..z

Posted by jp on Jul-09-2002 12:33:

The man who invented hardcore was DJ Rob in Rotterdam (Parkzicht club)

The song 'the beat is flown' was created live at the decks

1992 was the year

Posted by jp on Jul-09-2002 12:34:

By the way:

The best hardcore song ever imho is Leviathan - We'll tear your soul apart (Cenobite Records 1996)

Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-09-2002 15:13:

quote:
Originally posted by USSR Junkie

it's DJ Akira feat. Metal D - Trancetrutje (which means little trance whore/bitch). They're right, no?

LoL i wanna hear this track...do u HEAR them say fuck tiesto or anything liek that?

Posted by Noisician on Jul-09-2002 22:19:

hehe

YES!!!!! U can CLEARLY hear a guy say FUCK TIESTO. Wait, u can hear it yourself... i know i have that track somewhere. i will upload that part for u!

the trtack is sooo fucking agressive... one of the hardest ones i've ever heard in my life. tiesto sure made them mad with his stupid 'gabber is for kids' saying.

Posted by Noisician on Jul-10-2002 02:05:

here u go, tiesto14

fuck him ---> Trance Bitch

Posted by integrity1 on Jul-10-2002 02:33:

ussr, that has to be the worst song ive ever heard.

anyway i remember back in the day i was in a music store and i saw some cd called welcome to hell. it had a picture of zombies on it and a sign for rotterdam on it. i didnt realize it then but that was a gabber cd. you know what it had the stupidest names, too. shit like sleep depervation-beat your mom with a car. wtf? there an ad on mtv2 that has some guy talking about speed metal and such and then some other guy says "i ilke a lot of angry techno and gabber. it produces such hellish beats" or something lame like that. i think someone needs to kick that guy in the head.

Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-10-2002 03:34:

quote:
Originally posted by USSR Junkie
here u go, tiesto14

fuck him ---> Trance Bitch

LoL

HOLY SHIT THAT WAS SOME HARDCORE SHIT......FUCK!!!!!!!!

LOL that track sounds like this

"STRETCH dududududuududdududuududdeududuudududuududuudududduudduudfudududuudududuududuududuududuududuudud------FUCK TIESTO----FUFUFUUFUFFUUFUFFUUUFUUFUFUFUUFFUUFUFUUFUUFUFUFU------fuck tiesto-------------DUDUDUUDUDUDUDUUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUDUUDUDUUDUDUUDUDUUDUDDUUDUDUDUUDUDUDUUDUDUU"

LOL HILARIOUS.....

IS THAT GABBER?

Posted by Noisician on Jul-10-2002 03:39:

that was closer to terror, gabber is a bit slower

Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-10-2002 03:48:

quote:
Originally posted by USSR Junkie
that was closer to terror, gabber is a bit slower

LOL...ok then remind me NEVER to get any Terror or Speedcore since u said they where similar...

but i STILL wanna hear some Gabber......

why was that Fuck Tiesto track made anyway...is there a good story behind it?

Posted by tiesto14 on Jul-10-2002 03:52:

LOL i jus realized that TERROR reminds me of hard punk rock or something...LOL

People really listen to that?....wow too hard for me

Posted by Noisician on Jul-10-2002 03:55:

hehe... take that track, pitch it down a bit and u'll get a gabber track or u can pitch it up instead, and u'll get a 100% speedcore (doomcore, terrorcore) track

tiesto said bad things concerning hardcore music, so he got it in return...

Posted by MaGiK54 on Jul-10-2002 10:04:

quote:
Originally posted by USSR Junkie

tiesto said bad things concerning hardcore music, so he got it in return...[/color]

Tiesto played a long time ago in a galaxy far far away also Gabber / Hard-core. A few years ago he said that gabber is for little children.

A hard-core producer didn't liked it because Tiesto forgot about his "roots" (gabber) and produced this track.

Posted by mantisnl on Jul-10-2002 10:42:

i used 2 listen 2 hardcore also (2 years ago)

i`ll tell u summin.. my brother (13 years old) still is a gabber!!

nowadays, those gabbers all wear stuff like Lonsdale and Fred Perry, including my brother

ah well.. sumtimes i listen 2 some hardcore.. but not 2 much..

this is a good track imo:

DJ Promo - King Of Pain

cool vocals in it and that part with the little song in it.. and those cool vocals come trough it.. summin like "coo kickin` ass, coo kickin` ass, as i turn the volume up, its my beat!!!"

very cool

dj promo is the only creative producer of the hardcore scene ATM.. imo.. coz the other ones just remake old tracks..

ah well.. enough about hardcore..

laterzzz,

DJ Mantis

Posted by Hi-Voltage on Jul-10-2002 11:59:

USSR Junkie!Do u call it terror?it's a very siple hardcore...and they did it vell I think,Tiesto plays shit so he gets it
why do he do a statement like this?gabber for children?it's unfair

Posted by Hi-Voltage on Jul-10-2002 12:08:

quote:
Originally posted by New Wave

Well I have to make a correction here

Australian/Cavello jogging suits and Nike Air Max Classics are the dresscode of the 'gabbers'
It's weird, but sometimes i still wear it....it's just confertable

Okee, about the gabber "style".......it's like this:
"gabber-music"..."it's music for the 'gabbers'".....gabbers are the people in teh hardcore scene.....

BUT, in other countries it's differ....so it's just in which country you live in...

U're absoluetly right,it depends on which country u live in..here is the my story>>
I have lots of gabber friends who live for hardcore really.They shave their heads and so on...I like them and I love hardcore parties too,but unfortunatelly as somebody said gabber is dieing so we can't do a real gabber party because it's a great loss of money,there is no harcore people in Hungary
Nowdays Italy and Austria is the home of hardcore.I went to Vienna few weeks ago 'cause there was a great gabber party(called DEATH EXPERIENCE).I couldn't say there was thousands of pertypepole but thre is gabber life...

Posted by NIGHTERROR on Jul-10-2002 13:15:

quote:
Originally posted by robstar

[B]FartCore???[/B) lol!!

Nah... j/k.
I�m a old hardcore junkie my self.
Hardcore can be very good but also very bad!
That goes for every genre really.
I preffer my Core between 170-200.

LateR:Z.z..z

hey rob
yea all music can be very good and very bad.also trance i don't like all the trance i listen

and yesn i'm on the same bpm but i don't arrive often at 200 bpm.maybe sometimes when i listen to the koztaak klan

see ya m8

cheers

Posted by NIGHTERROR on Jul-10-2002 13:25:

quote:
Originally posted by jploveparade
By the way:

The best hardcore song ever imho is Leviathan - We'll tear your soul apart (Cenobite Records 1996)

yeah leviathan is one of the best
for me the best track of leviathan is Leviathan - yes..No.. or wrong decision.also archatos - my god

Btw i know that maybe cenobite will came back again )

I hop so

see ya m8

Posted by NIGHTERROR on Jul-10-2002 13:29:

quote:
Originally posted by mantisnl
i used 2 listen 2 hardcore also (2 years ago)

i`ll tell u summin.. my brother (13 years old) still is a gabber!!

nowadays, those gabbers all wear stuff like Lonsdale and Fred Perry, including my brother

ah well.. sumtimes i listen 2 some hardcore.. but not 2 much..

this is a good track imo:

DJ Promo - King Of Pain

cool vocals in it and that part with the little song in it.. and those cool vocals come trough it.. summin like "coo kickin` ass, coo kickin` ass, as i turn the volume up, its my beat!!!"

very cool

dj promo is the only creative producer of the hardcore scene ATM.. imo.. coz the other ones just remake old tracks..

ah well.. enough about hardcore..

laterzzz,

DJ Mantis

Honestly i think that king of pain is a very shitty track also because it's very on the commercial side .
the best of promo are in my opinion:
dj promo - my underground madness
dj promo pattern in chaos
and another one that i'm sorry but i can't remember the name of it

Catscan rules too ...

Posted by eXos on Jul-10-2002 16:38:

Everything you want to know:

And if you want to know how it really sounds:

HERE
HERE
HERE
HERE
HERE
HERE

Posted by eXos on Jul-10-2002 16:52:

Some of the Best Gabber songs:

Marchall Masters - Don't touch that Stereo
Dr. Macabre's - Ghost Stories

Posted by basvh on Jul-10-2002 18:26:

quote:
Originally posted by Hi-Voltage

Nowdays Italy and Austria is the home of hardcore.I went to Vienna few weeks ago 'cause there was a great gabber party(called DEATH EXPERIENCE).I couldn't say there was thousands of pertypepole but thre is gabber life...

15 october 2002. thunderdome �a decade� amsterdam rai. 15000 hardcore party people

Posted by NIGHTERROR on Jul-11-2002 00:42:

Macabre and acardipane are too artist .Big artist!

Danse macabre
seven

pilldriver - pitch hicker

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