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Posted by civicstyle on Jan-06-2010 21:41:

el oh el at y'all thinking these dj's get THIS much/gig.


Posted by R!CH on Jan-06-2010 21:52:

quote:
Originally posted by TommyfromLA
R!CH you are absolutely full of shit like always and I like the fact that you like to mention me in every single one of your posts even on posts that I haven't even commented. I don't swing both ways just in case you were looking for a BF so get of my N**Z....

There are some Dj's that don't meet your taste that's fine man some others enjoy them and vice versa. You don't see others post 200 times a day about how one DJ that you like sucks... We all got it R!CH HATES GUETTA!!!! No problem buddy stop having panic attacks every time some one mentions his name!!!


this thread finally pays off


Posted by R!CH on Jan-06-2010 22:33:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
FTFY

Seriously dude, the idea of success is so incredibly subjective that its kind of ridiculous for you to come out and flatly state one method of its judgement as being "wrong."


no need to put words in my mouth buddy. if you describe success as simply making a lot of money, then you're clearly talking about running a business. i don't really care about that. my appreciation of music has nothing to do with the amount of revenue it represents. i do not derive pleasure from one's ability to top charts and make the more money than the other guy. i realize a lot of people out there do. what i care about is the artistic merits of the music, its ability to challenge me and how well i can relate to it. what i consider success is an artist who can express something real and meaningful about him or herself through their music, who isn't concerned with distractions like how to chart higher than last week, who isn't driven by populism or egotism, confined by business models and convention, who isn't led around like a dog on a leash by his financial handlers, who is not afraid to take risk and explore new avenues, who strives to exist at the tip of the artistic sword, who can see when the horse is about to die, stop beating it and move on. you know, a real artist. music is art to me, it is not a case study in how to get rich quick. i have zero fascination with how well some people can hustle the scene with shoe deals, private planes, and other worthless gimmicks.

why doesn't guetta or tiesto fit into my model of an artist? because they are more concerned about the details of how much they are getting paid than the idea of playing records for thousands of people, with whether or not a there's a private jet in their rider than some powerful dj tool, with how many girls are back stage then how well they are playing. their track selection is neither unique nor logical. there is no flow to their programming, they don't offer you anything you haven't heard millions of times before. they play the most conventional, mediocre, pedestrian music in all of edm. in the world of painting, they are a xerox machine.

most people at a tiesto show are more happy about the sight of tiesto in front of them than the music he plays. they use the dj mag/making bank argument the mask the fact that they can't explain what makes his music any good.


Posted by Sadface on Jan-06-2010 23:04:

Sure, except theres pretty much nothing in EDM these days thats "at the tip of the artistic sword." Most everyone is just producing songs with the same recycled themes that have been played out for years. It's just a matter of the producer choosing which audience to cater to with his sound. It's an interesting choice that everyone can obviously have varying opinions on, but its not as though theres inherently more value in making one type of recycled music over another.


Posted by EDMDancer on Jan-06-2010 23:17:

This only applies to most of the well-known and commercially big DJs and producers. I do often hear some pretty fresh sound in some smaller parties in SF.

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
Sure, except theres pretty much nothing in EDM these days thats "at the tip of the artistic sword." Most everyone is just producing songs with the same recycled themes that have been played out for years. It's just a matter of the producer choosing which audience to cater to with his sound. It's an interesting choice that everyone can obviously have varying opinions on, but its not as though theres inherently more value in making one type of recycled music over another.


Posted by MR STROKE on Jan-06-2010 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by TommyfromLA
R!CH you are absolutely full of shit like always and I like the fact that you like to mention me in every single one of your posts even on posts that I haven't even commented. I don't swing both ways just in case you were looking for a BF so get of my N**Z....





Posted by R!CH on Jan-06-2010 23:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
Sure, except theres pretty much nothing in EDM these days thats "at the tip of the artistic sword." Most everyone is just producing songs with the same recycled themes that have been played out for years. It's just a matter of the producer choosing which audience to cater to with his sound. It's an interesting choice that everyone can obviously have varying opinions on, but its not as though theres inherently more value in making one type of recycled music over another.


if that was the case i would have been over this scene a long time ago. yet i manage to hear a very diverse range of experimental sounds, effects and arrangements every time i go out. obviously with a finite number of instruments and frequencies you're going to hear the same sound more than once. that's not my criticism. i'm talking about the cookie-cutter nature of commercial music which takes a small handful of those sounds and shuffles them around into a thousand variants for years and years and years without any semblance creative interpretation save for a cheesy diva vox here and there. underground music still uses a pretty standard bag of kicks and snares, but it's the other sounds and effects arranged around that beat-ridden sound that keeps me interested. and let's not forget all the potential software and live mixing tools introduce into the equation. maybe i would have more respect for tiesto if he bothered to learn how to master these tools and used them to the extreme every time he charged $100 to see him play.


Posted by R!CH on Jan-07-2010 00:01:

also, i love you tommy. please come back.


Posted by drEamer on Jan-07-2010 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
in that case there is no such thing as bad music
that is true.....just cuz u think its bad, doesnt mean the entire world thinks it is....truth is, someone somewhere will like it......your musical taste isnt the end all be all u want it to be.....it starts and ends with what u like


Posted by Clovis on Jan-07-2010 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by drEamer
that is true.....just cuz u think its bad, doesnt mean the entire world thinks it is....truth is, someone somewhere will like it......your musical taste isnt the end all be all u want it to be.....it starts and ends with what u like


So Beethoven is on the same level as Britney Spears? Slippery slope...


Posted by Sadface on Jan-07-2010 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
if that was the case i would have been over this scene a long time ago. yet i manage to hear a very diverse range of experimental sounds, effects and arrangements every time i go out. obviously with a finite number of instruments and frequencies you're going to hear the same sound more than once. that's not my criticism. i'm talking about the cookie-cutter nature of commercial music which takes a small handful of those sounds and shuffles them around into a thousand variants for years and years and years without any semblance creative interpretation save for a cheesy diva vox here and there. underground music still uses a pretty standard bag of kicks and snares, but it's the other sounds and effects and how it is arranged that is quite unique to me.

Might that have to do with the fact that you and the rest of the underground scene keep switching up artists/genres so fast? MNML was the "it" genre not too long ago and now look what's happened. It wasn't inherently more creative than trance, it was just a different take on a 4/4 beat that everyone got bored of eventually. You just can't listen to EDM as much as we do without switching things up because every style gets stale after a while. The average weekend listener doesn't have this problem.

Out of curiosity, how many producers/dj's are you still listening to that you loved 5 years ago? 3 years?


Posted by bas on Jan-07-2010 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
also, i love you tommy. please come back.


DON'T LEEEEEEEEEAVE ME GIIIIIIIIIIIRL

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
Might that have to do with the fact that you and the rest of the underground scene keep switching up artists/genres so fast? MNML was the "it" genre not too long ago and now look what's happened. It wasn't inherently more creative than trance, it was just a different take on a 4/4 beat that everyone got bored of eventually. You just can't listen to EDM as much as we do without switching things up because every style gets stale after a while. The average weekend listener doesn't have this problem.

Out of curiosity, how many producers/dj's are you still listening to that you loved 5 years ago? 3 years?

Oh noez, music is progressing...I DON'T LIKE NEW THINGS


Posted by drEamer on Jan-07-2010 01:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
So Beethoven is on the same level as Britney Spears? Slippery slope...
not to me, but there are certainly people in the world who think that


Posted by diskodave on Jan-07-2010 01:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
So Beethoven is on the same level as Britney Spears? Slippery slope...

quote:
Originally posted by drEamer
not to me, but there are certainly people in the world who think that




Britney Spears has 4 PLATINUM singles - So DUH she's a more successful music artist!


Posted by xjoshx on Jan-07-2010 01:46:

lmao at the video!


Posted by rizo on Jan-07-2010 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by diskodave
Britney Spears has 4 PLATINUM singles - So DUH she's a more successful music artist!
quote:
Originally posted by xjoshx
lmao at the video!


Posted by Sadface on Jan-07-2010 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by bas
Oh noez, music is progressing...I DON'T LIKE NEW THINGS
I know man. I'm lucky MP3 files can't wear out cause I'd be on my 20'th copies of "silence" and "one more time" by now.


Posted by Clovis on Jan-07-2010 03:14:

quote:
Originally posted by drEamer
not to me, but there are certainly people in the world who think that


Those people are called rednecks.


Posted by raveed on Jan-07-2010 04:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
So Beethoven is on the same level as Britney Spears? Slippery slope...


Wouldn't be surprised if the folks exclusively posting in the symphony discussion section on Operaaddict.com call Beethoven a sellout given hes the most well known composer in that genre


Posted by raveed on Jan-07-2010 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Sadface
Sure, except theres pretty much nothing in EDM these days thats "at the tip of the artistic sword." Most everyone is just producing songs with the same recycled themes that have been played out for years. It's just a matter of the producer choosing which audience to cater to with his sound. It's an interesting choice that everyone can obviously have varying opinions on, but its not as though theres inherently more value in making one type of recycled music over another.


Agree and disagree. There are a lot of artists currently out there in the trance genre that have their own unique sound.

Gareth Emery uses a lot of uplifting synth melodies

Andy Moor uses this haunting female voice blended in as a melody instead of as a dominating vocal

Sander van Doorn has the whole digital take on the joke 'How do you name a chinese baby' thing going


The recycled sound for me is the number of remixes of classics that were already remixed plenty of times years back that have been coming out lately.


Posted by displaced on Jan-07-2010 04:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
So Beethoven is on the same level as Britney Spears? Slippery slope...
quote:
Originally posted by drEamer
not to me, but there are certainly people in the world who think that
quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
Those people are called rednecks.


correct me if i quote you in the wrong context, so if you replaced britney spears with kanye west, you'd call those people...


Posted by raveed on Jan-07-2010 04:35:

quote:
Originally posted by displaced

correct me if i quote you in the wrong context, so if you replaced britney spears with kanye west, you'd call those people...


ima let you finish but BEYONCE HAD ONE OF THE BEST MUSIC VIDEOS OF ALL TIME


Posted by displaced on Jan-07-2010 04:36:

lolz


Posted by Clovis on Jan-07-2010 04:44:

quote:
quote:
Originally posted by displaced


correct me if i quote you in the wrong context, so if you replaced britney spears with kanye west, you'd call those people...


kanye west


Posted by Miss Julia on Jan-07-2010 05:00:

quote:
Originally posted by R!CH
this thread finally pays off




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