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Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 19:36:

quote:
Originally posted by wienerschnitzel
i used to smoke (after pregnancy) but only did it outside.. my other big rule was NEVER smoke in the car with my kid inside, seeing others do that really bothers me. I quit smoking a couple of months before my second pregnancy. If you are struggling with drinking habits maybe you should see your doctor about anti-anxiety meds (which you may have already done) but it sounds like it goes a bit beyond smoking. I'm not trying to pass judgement, HOWEVER, i gave up ALOT of shit to have a kid, physically and emotionally.. as a dad and a husband, having a smoke outside shouldn't be that big of an issue.


yeah ive been to doctors and am on meds. call me a selfish prick or a shit dad like everyone else, but i genuinely figured that being in a room out of the way with door shut and window open would be acceptable. Maybe its just because i strongly believe in what was good for us as kids is as good for my kid. as far as im aware the only thing you shouldnt do as a pregnant mum back in the earliy 80's was eat soft cheese... now you cant do/eat literally anything.

and for all you dicks saying im an idiot or an asshole.. please read through the actual meaning of this topic.. which was.. electric cigarettes, what are they like, cos im going to be getting one.


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-14-2010 19:39:

OP is a fucking loser.

if you can't put the kid before your own "needs" you should get an abortion and save the world from more chavs.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 19:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
OP is a fucking loser.

if you can't put the kid before your own "needs" you should get an abortion and save the world from more chavs.


and buy a fucking ugly cat right?


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-14-2010 19:43:

if my baby would be allergic to cats i would give them all away.

seriously man, consider what it is going to take to be a good father before considering what it will take to be able to smoke in the house.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 19:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
if my baby would be allergic to cats i would give them all away.

seriously man, consider what it is going to take to be a good father before considering what it will take to be able to smoke in the house.


well i kind of am figuring out what it would take for me to be good dad, this illness i have, i need to be of sound mind in order to get better, the better i am, the better i will be for my baby. im giving up drink right now [ive drank pretty much everyday for the last 10 years] so this is a hard thing for me to do.. jacking in smoking aswell is probably not a good thing for me to do right now. but as gay as it sounds, the little things help my mental well being. but like my original post said.. im gonna be getting one of them electric fags.. so hopefully ill be alright.

and like i said.. i was brought up to believethat you shouldnt smoke infront of babies.. i wasnt planning on doing that, i was planning on having my room where i can do that.. but it appears even being in a room with the door shut isnt ideal either


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-14-2010 19:59:

have you considered going to a doctor?

they would be much more well equipped to handle these problems you are facing than tranceaddict.

i'm not expert on life by any means, but the sooner you take care of yourself, the sooner that you will be fit to care for others.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 20:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
have you considered going to a doctor?

they would be much more well equipped to handle these problems you are facing than tranceaddict.

i'm not expert on life by any means, but the sooner you take care of yourself, the sooner that you will be fit to care for others.


yeah i guess so. but they'd only give me anti depresants.. tried them before and they made a mess of me, which is why im trying to do it on my own.. to not much avail it would seem lol


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-14-2010 20:05:

maybe you should try again.

just say what you have taken before to the doctor and why they didn't work.

there are a ton of anti depressants on the market, and not all of them work for everyone. Doing it on your own is not a good idea. Think about it.


Posted by Lews on Jan-14-2010 20:07:

Yeah if you do it like that you'll end up like me


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-14-2010 20:08:

see?


Posted by woscar on Jan-14-2010 20:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
maybe you should try again.

just say what you have taken before to the doctor and why they didn't work.

there are a ton of anti depressants on the market, and not all of them work for everyone. Doing it on your own is not a good idea. Think about it.


Two words: Robert Enke


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 20:18:

haha yeah i see your point
well i was on citalopram before... i was told they were non-adictive, and non drowsy.. them fukkas were like doing really smacky E's


Posted by Lews on Jan-14-2010 20:19:

Ahh yeah. Been on those. They didn't really do shit to me, positive or negative.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 20:23:

well i was told theyd take 4 weeks to get into my system and start doing me some good.. but after 2 weeks i was a mess, they were forcing me to have really violent panic attacks, so i came straight off of them. im just on propanalol [beta blockers] at the minute. they dont seem to really do anything


Posted by Lews on Jan-14-2010 20:26:

Usually you have no positive gains for about a month, but from 1-3 weeks or so you have all the bad side effects. It can be a bitch, depending on what it is. Mirtazapine was giving me hallucinations, was crazy.

Currently though I'm just on Metropolol [beta blockers] and some xanax and alcohol

Beta blockers shouldn't have any negative side effects, though they might make you a little bit depressed. Also they increase your attention span and focus!


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-14-2010 20:33:

quote:
Originally posted by [N]�k|��[Z]
well i was told theyd take 4 weeks to get into my system and start doing me some good.. but after 2 weeks i was a mess, they were forcing me to have really violent panic attacks, so i came straight off of them. im just on propanalol [beta blockers] at the minute. they dont seem to really do anything


beta blockers do not cure depression.

no anti depressant is instant and it does take time. One failure does not mean another will not work. Do some reading up on it and show up to your doctor prepared. Look at it this way, the baby is not born yet, so you have the time to fix this before it is. Waiting around will not do anything. I don't mean to be insulting with the next comment, but if you drank every day for 10 years, you are not equipped to do it yourself.

I mean this in the nicest of ways too.


Posted by djnitride on Jan-14-2010 20:34:

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Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-14-2010 20:34:

quote:
Originally posted by woscar
Two words: Robert Enke



Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 20:35:

ah well these beta blockers dont really seem to do anything at all really. ive had this thing for 2 and a half years now, i was on propanolol for about 6 months, and i figured they wernt doing anything, so i went to the docs and tried the citalopram, but they fucked me up.. so i went back on the beta blockers for another yearish. then i decided to go cold turkey and just not take anything, and it was hard but manageable. i was hoping that eventually id subconciously realise that i didnt need them and id get better on my own, but i guess it didnt work. i got married last year, so i had the stress of all that, so i went to the docs and went back on the beta blockers, and its been about 5 months since i stopped drinking on weeknights, which makes things harder for me.

so thats my life generally in a nutshell right now. im told that having a baby will sort me out, who knows.. maybe it will.. maybe it wont


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-14-2010 20:38:

how about instead of "it might sort me out it might not" you change that to "i better get control of my life and health before it fucks up the lives of others that i am responsible for."

change that frame of mind and you are already a bajillion times better off.

babies just don't "sort you out"...the shitload of badly raised children out there speak for that quite immensely. YOU sort yourself out

you are taking on the biggest responsibility of your life, you have to start being responsible to you too.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 20:39:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
beta blockers do not cure depression.

no anti depressant is instant and it does take time. One failure does not mean another will not work. Do some reading up on it and show up to your doctor prepared. Look at it this way, the baby is not born yet, so you have the time to fix this before it is. Waiting around will not do anything. I don't mean to be insulting with the next comment, but if you drank every day for 10 years, you are not equipped to do it yourself.

I mean this in the nicest of ways too.


ah yeah i know.. the drinking thing.. it was only 4 cans of stella a night.. but i drank more on a weekend. i was never on spirits or anything daft like that. the drinking im coming to terms with now.. its not that hard... but i dont think i could stop it all together. i dont drink to get drunk, its just i have a little bit of a drink to separate myself from work and stuff. over the last 2 and a half years, having a drink everynight helped calm my nerves from the panic disorder.. so not drinking is a little tough, but i can manage. i just dont want to end up on meds that will ruin my life and turn me into a zombie


Posted by enydo on Jan-14-2010 20:39:

The one time I ever agreed to take anti-depressants they ended up having the opposite effect and caused an even greater degree of depression along with some suicidal thoughts thrown in for fun. Stopped taking them immediately and it cleared up, was still incredibly terrifying, pretty much scared me off the things for good.


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Schadenfreude
how about instead of "it might sort me out it might not" you change that to "i better get control of my life and health before it fucks up the lives of others that i am responsible for."

change that frame of mind and you are already a bajillion times better off.

babies just don't "sort you out"...the shitload of badly raised children out there speak for that quite immensely. YOU sort yourself out


lol yeah i guess so. thats pretty much what i have to do everyday to get myself out and do things like going to work.. getting my haircut.. doing the shopping. i never thought 3 years ago hat id have to talk myself into doing the most remdial of tasks


Posted by [N]�k|��[Z] on Jan-14-2010 20:42:

quote:
Originally posted by enydo
The one time I ever agreed to take anti-depressants they ended up having the opposite effect and caused an even greater degree of depression along with some suicidal thoughts thrown in for fun. Stopped taking them immediately and it cleared up, was still incredibly terrifying, pretty much scared me off the things for good.


hahah yep.. well i had my little incident with them, and it sorta put me off them too.. like i said, these citaloprams were like having E's but realy smacky ones. so i was mongoled half the time, and also at the same time, they made my condition worse


Posted by Schadenfreude on Jan-14-2010 20:43:

show me someone that had their life ruined by meds, and i'll show you someone that took the wrong ones for them and didn't bother to follow up to the doctor with this info, and try another kind.


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