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The worst thing my parents ever did was say "I'm really disapointed in you" I fukin hated that...

PS: This kid is fucked up!!!

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Originally posted by T_ALI The worst thing my parents ever did was say "I'm really disapointed in you" I fukin hated that...

that explains a lot

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Originally posted by LKD that explains a lot

hahaha go fuck urself!!!

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Originally posted by T_ALI hahaha go fuck urself!!!

there was no way I could resist that set up

OMG that story is horrible. There is no excuse for killing anyone. But I'm thinking that something terribly wrong was going on in this kid's life to make him do this. Possible abuse from the parents?

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Originally posted by SasH21 gotta beat them since birth lol

Agreed!

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Originally posted by BuffaloLiz OMG that story is horrible. There is no excuse for killing anyone. But I'm thinking that something terribly wrong was going on in this kid's life to make him do this. Possible abuse from the parents?

I agree...I wouldn't be surprised to hear that this child was being abused by one or both his parents.

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Originally posted by Xavier Moriarty

There has been a lot of research on this; however, without much consensus. The American College of Pediatricians, for instance, approves of 'spanking your kids' and in some studies even suggests that a healthy dose of physical discipline is necessary for a child's development. On the other hand, The Canadian Paediatric Society, disagrees. So anyone looking for a conclusive solution is wasting their time.

In a recent article by the post called "A good spanking," the writer concluded that:

"No study will ever conclusively prove normative spanking's beneficial or deleterious effects one way or the other, so reflexive judgmentalism is unfair: Parents must sort it out for themselves, and we should all just leave it at "different strokes" -- or not -- "for different folks."

That's pretty much how I feel. I do, in any case, appreciate all the beatings I received while growing up--but beyond my own family, I could not care less about how parents choose to discipline their kids. It's their problem, not mine.

^ yeah different strokes for different folks, however back at home noone would get arrested and lose custody of their kids for spanking them - isn't absolutely not allowed here? if you kid comes to school and tells his/her teacher that his Mommy has hit him/her (and it could be a simple spank on the ass), you're in big trouble!

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew ^ yeah different strokes for different folks, however back at home noone would get arrested and lose custody of their kids for spanking them - isn't absolutely not allowed here? if you kid comes to school and tells his/her teacher that his Mommy has hit him/her (and it could be a simple spank on the ass), you're in big trouble!

It's not absolutely enforced.

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By law, parents in Canada must provide their children with the things they need to be healthy in their lives until they reach age 16. It is against the law in Canada to abuse children, either physically, psychologically or sexually. In Canada, abuse can mean many things: any form of harm, neglect or poor treatment. This can include spanking children enough to cause bruises, terrorizing or humiliating them, any kind of sexual contact, neglect and female circumcision. All forms of child abuse are serious crimes. Police, doctors, teachers and children�s aid workers will take action, such as calling police, if they think children are being harmed. In serious cases of abuse, children will be taken away from their parents and placed in a new home.

You can spank a child and not cause any real/serious physical harm. The Department of Justice elaborates much more thoroughly on what it considers specific forms of child abuse.

see: http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/pi/fv-.../child-enf.html

I never got disciplined with a spank/slap/belt. It was just time-outs & chores for me. My older brother & sisters had it different though. Maybe cause I was the only good kid They got everything...belt, spoon, soap in the mooth, etc. My Dad once broke a big wooden spoon he hit my brother so hard with it. And my Mom had to tie my brother down to a chair just to eat dinner. He was a terror.

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Originally posted by evil_cookie It's not absolutely enforced. You can spank a child and not cause any real/serious physical harm. The Department of Justice elaborates much more thoroughly on what it considers specific forms of child abuse. see: http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/pi/fv-.../child-enf.html

good to know!
because I think that I won't be able to not implement that when the time comes, growing up with that myself

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Originally posted by TrAnCeiN4LiFe if you are a true "Croatian" you should know better then that, bet you got beat and so did i! ya gots to lay down the law~!

haha of course I got my ass beat but that didnt stop me from doing stupid shit which was my point. There is no proof that beating your kid will make them behave better...they will only try harder not to get caught next time

One time my brother was eating a chicken leg trying making my sister laugh and my dad slapped the back of his head so hard that the chicken leg went flying across the table.

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Originally posted by Dior Homme The worst part about the story is that he 'seemed happy' the day after the murders. wtf? the voices in my head told me to do it!

Ya...his actions afterward are what shocked me the most. Playing video games while his parents were dead in the house, driving the step father's car to school the next morning and being happy afterward. Seriously messed up!

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* Ya...his actions afterward are what shocked me the most. Playing video games while his parents were dead in the house, driving the step father's car to school the next morning and being happy afterward. Seriously messed up!

Yah it would be different if his parents were raping him or something. Then he would have a good reason to be happy.

There are lots of kids who got spanked who do shitty things and vice versa..so spanking is not the common denominator in all of this..

This is actually a huge issue with my husband and I. I am dead set against hitting children. My dad hit me once my whole life and the incident has had a deep impact on me and is is still very vivid in my mind. I can still feel the hurt and betrayal I felt at that moment as if it happened yesterday. I honestly believe that I lost a bit of my innocence at that moment. It was the first time another human had physically hurt me.

My husband on the other hand believes that you should be able to spank your kids up until they are 6 or so. We have gotten into HUGE fights about it and I know that when we have a child , it will be a huge point of contention.

Spanking is not right especially when it is a tool used by first time parents that get frustrated with their children and start smacking them around for every little indiscretion the child makes. All it does is breed fear in the child. Ya, they may not do certain things because they fear the pain you are going to cause them but in the end, it can also have long lasting psychological consequences. Kids are not slaves and should not be beaten into submission..

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Originally posted by love_child haha of course I got my ass beat but that didnt stop me from doing stupid shit which was my point. There is no proof that beating your kid will make them behave better...they will only try harder not to get caught next time One time my brother was eating a chicken leg trying making my sister laugh and my dad slapped the back of his head so hard that the chicken leg went flying across the table.

well eventually you get tired of getting beat up.... and you do learn not to do that again... so it was in my case... anyway i was a bad child until arrival to canada.... back home i could get away with dozen bad activities and not suffer long term punishment's i.e end up in a nut home

getting beat my mom only meant i will have a good cry nap

in reality Europeans will beat their kids, over here people are soft
p.s i split with one of my ex's because of the different views exactly on this topic lol

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew good to know! because I think that I won't be able to not implement that when the time comes, growing up with that myself

BEAT THAT CHILD! LIKE THE BLACK MOMMAS DO!

oh yeah they seem to be the only race in entire north america that beat their children and in public too, seen it happen my self a couple of times. made me chuckle

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew good to know! because I think that I won't be able to not implement that when the time comes, growing up with that myself

Honestly, I never got beat as a child, but I did get spankings and it didn't cause me any harm. It taught me to behave, lol.

I don't see the harm in a smack on the hand to learn not to touch things. My parents could take us out to people's houses and they didn't have to put things up because we wouldn't touch them. We were taught not too.

What I can't stand is those parents who don't believe in spanking their kids, but yet have no control over their kids at all while out in public. Put some damn discipline in place and get control of your kids yo! I don't want to hear them screaming and misbehaving while I am in the vicinity of you in a store, a mall or wherever I may be!

Spanking is nothing. It's a slap across the behind that doesn't even leave a red mark most times, never mind any form of physical harm. Spanking is much harder on a child's mental state than on their physical wellness.

Spanking doesn't work on some kids, it works on others. If you're going to spank, it needs to be used as a last resort, and "I'm counting to 3" doesn't count as trying something before you smack.

one of these across the ass will make the kid smarten up

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