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Posted by diesel_tron3000 on Apr-13-2010 20:57:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Psychopaths tend to punctuate sentences they're speaking with more hand-gestures or beats, as researchers call them.


you got the wiki on that?


Posted by on Apr-13-2010 21:36:

Re: Non-verbal communication

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Bear with me, I'm not as articulate as some of you fucks.

Cultural influences on communication aside, I was wondering whether there was a correlation between intelligence and use or non-use of expressive non-verbal communication.

On one hand, I think that a person who gesticulates a lot and makes very overt facial expressions might be showing greater intelligence, in a kinesthetic sense. In a way I can see this type of person being more wholly in tune with what they think and feel.

But on the other hand, does it not show a different type of intelligence to be able to express more, with less?

This applies to not only the sender of the message, but the receiver, too. To be able to perceive more on less information seems, uh, smarter?

I thought about this with words, too...and the ironic fact that to be able to communicate with less words, one actually has to know a whole fuck load of 'em.

I suppose this all depends on how one defines intelligence, but I'm not looking to get into a debate about that, either.


Anyway, as I thought of this, I made it seem perfectly logical in my mind that we should be able to communicate telepathically. Right? RIGHT??









Oh yeah, and I was watching Bob Blumer's 'Glutton for Punishment' just now and he was in a nettle eating and beer drinking competition - and it made me think of ********.




intelligence?! did some girl make you feel insecure?


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-13-2010 21:37:

Yeah that's it, lol.


Posted by on Apr-13-2010 22:28:

you don't have to get defensive. it's just a question.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-13-2010 23:17:

You're an idiot.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-13-2010 23:23:

quote:
Originally posted by diesel_tron3000
you got the wiki on that?


I believe I read it in Without Conscience by Dr. Robert Hare and, subsequent to that reading, saw it in a program called Most Evil on Investigation Discovery.


Posted by igottaknow on Apr-13-2010 23:50:

quote:
Originally posted by EddieZilker
Psychopaths tend to punctuate sentences they're speaking with more hand-gestures or beats, as researchers call them.

?


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-13-2010 23:56:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
?


Kind of - yes, but it's more prominent. I believe Hare described it as though it were almost less about emphasis and more about rhythm.


Posted by Flec on Apr-14-2010 00:46:

Jenny, i believe this may be interesting for you


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impression_management


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-14-2010 00:59:

Heh, reminds me a little bit of concepts illustrated through traits of Disney characters in The Te of Piglet.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-14-2010 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
The Te of Piglet.


Read this right after Tao of Poo.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-14-2010 01:03:

Well duh.


Posted by idoru on Apr-14-2010 01:04:

quote:
Originally posted by igottaknow
?


Awesome.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-14-2010 01:09:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Well duh.


I meant past-tense.
















Damn smart people.


Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-14-2010 01:09:

The act of hand gesturing might have little do with biology or psychology, more of a social construct. With the purpose to add value, efficiency, persuasion into a persons communication. Humans respond to visuals along with sound. The type and motions of the gesturing itself might have some biology and psychology involved.


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-14-2010 01:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
The act of hand gesturing might have little do with biology or psychology, more of a social construct. With the purpose to add value, efficiency, persuasion into a persons communication. Humans respond to visuals along with sound. The type of gesturing itself might have some biology and psychology involved.


quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Well duh.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-14-2010 01:10:


Posted by igottaknow on Apr-14-2010 01:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
The act of hand gesturing might have little do with biology or psychology, more of a social construct. With the purpose to add value, efficiency, persuasion into a persons communication. Humans respond to visuals along with sound. The type and motions of the gesturing itself might have some biology and psychology involved.

tell that to a deaf person


Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-14-2010 01:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Kismet7
The act of hand gesturing might have little do with biology or psychology, more of a social construct. With the purpose to add value, efficiency, persuasion into a persons communication. Humans respond to visuals along with sound. The type and motions of the gesturing itself might have some biology and psychology involved.


To add to this...I dont think hand gesturing has much to do with intelligence. You could say the people who gesture more have knowledge in the importance of gesturing while communicating. And they can do this whether they are smart or dumb, since gesturing is simple physical motions any human can learn and apply into their communication.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-14-2010 01:21:

Wow, thank you for saying what I already implied in my first post and what has been elaborated on in this thread before you came.


Posted by Kismet7 on Apr-14-2010 01:34:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Wow, thank you for saying what I already implied in my first post and what has been elaborated on in this thread before you came.

quote:

Bear with me, I'm not as articulate as some of you fucks.

Cultural influences on communication aside, I was wondering whether there was a correlation between intelligence and use or non-use of expressive non-verbal communication.

On one hand, I think that a person who gesticulates a lot and makes very overt facial expressions might be showing greater intelligence, in a kinesthetic sense. In a way I can see this type of person being more wholly in tune with what they think and feel.

But on the other hand, does it not show a different type of intelligence to be able to express more, with less?

This applies to not only the sender of the message, but the receiver, too. To be able to perceive more on less information seems, uh, smarter?

I thought about this with words, too...and the ironic fact that to be able to communicate with less words, one actually has to know a whole fuck load of 'em.

I suppose this all depends on how one defines intelligence, but I'm not looking to get into a debate about that, either.


Anyway, as I thought of this, I made it seem perfectly logical in my mind that we should be able to communicate telepathically. Right? RIGHT??


You asked a question, made an assumption, and then you asked another question tying gesturing to intelligence. How does your OP make the points I made?

ps: You mad?


Posted by Flec on Apr-14-2010 01:49:

"This applies to not only the sender of the message, but the receiver, too. To be able to perceive more on less information seems, uh, smarter?"



smarter or more intelligent? no

telepathic? absolutely


more on less? whether your getting information verbally or non-verbally it needs to be full enough that any ambiguities are resolved.


Posted by Silky Johnson on Apr-14-2010 01:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Flec
telepathic? absolutely




Do you think it's ludicrous to think that one day we should be able to communicate in such a manner. LIKE ALIENS?


Posted by EddieZilker on Apr-14-2010 02:19:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Do you think it's ludicrous to think that one day we should be able to communicate in such a manner. LIKE ALIENS?


Someone call the police! ********'s gone nuts, stalked Jenny, and is now posting, AS HER FROM HER HOUSE OMG!!!!














ACK!


Posted by Lilith on Apr-14-2010 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by jennypie
Do you think it's ludicrous to think that one day we should be able to communicate in such a manner. LIKE ALIENS?


Learn to speak Spanish or swing your own mop.


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