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Originally posted by noikeee Like Guatemala, Canada, or Fuckingnowhereistan? Gonna be a little hard for them.

Precisely.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Football clubs are like friends - you can pick what you want, but nations are like family. You're stuck with the hand you're dealt.

Mexico one with something like: adding the spicyness

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Support your own countries, you glory-hunters.

I never picked you as a simple, parochial miscreant maligned by ruling class ideology

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Football clubs are like friends - you can pick what you want, but nations are like family. You're stuck with the hand you're dealt.

And that's one more reason why you shouldn't be bound by it.

I had to be born in a country, this is inevitable in the contemporary world: but the choice to relate to your country (or to your family, for that matter), specially in meaningless events is up to the individual.

If you think that's necessary, that's because it was your choice to think so, and you shouldn't expect others to do the same.

despues que el bar�a gana la liga, cambio mi sig, vale.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Football clubs are like friends - you can pick what you want, but nations are like family. You're stuck with the hand you're dealt.

i recommend stocking up on a lot of tissue with aloe

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Originally posted by Lira And that's one more reason why you shouldn't be bound by it. I had to be born in a country, this is inevitable in the contemporary world: but the choice to relate to your country (or to your family, for that matter), specially in meaningless events is up to the individual. If you think that's necessary, that's because it was your choice to think so, and you shouldn't expect others to do the same.

One word for you - "bandwagon"
It's fine to like certain teams and wish them well but not at the expense of your own country. Maybe the rest of us just have more national pride than you do, though I know many MANY Brazilians and they have extremely strong national pride.

Im surprised Brazil wasn't made and bashed on.

I request Brazil. hahahaha.

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Originally posted by Fledz One word for you - "bandwagon" It's fine to like certain teams and wish them well but not at the expense of your own country. Maybe the rest of us just have more national pride than you do, though I know many MANY Brazilians and they have extremely strong national pride.

National pride is for the uneducated peasantry! Who the fuck made the rule that sport was about stupid patriotism?

I'm not sure combining countries is a good idea but I'm going to make one specially for you, Ian.

So, Mexico and Brazil, right? I'll do them tomorrow.

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Originally posted by Fledz One word for you - "bandwagon" It's fine to like certain teams and wish them well but not at the expense of your own country. Maybe the rest of us just have more national pride than you do, though I know many MANY Brazilians and they have extremely strong national pride.

I just can't accommodate nationalism in the way I see the world: I don't think you're any less special than my neighbour, and I don't think anything from my city must be necessarily better than anything else from Sidney. To me, being proud to be >insert nationality here< is as pointless as being proud to be born in a given month of the year. I see you as someone as special/interesting/valuable as a fellow countrymen. We're awesome, but so is everyone else.

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Originally posted by Lira I'm not sure combining countries is a good idea but I'm going to make one specially for you, Ian. So, Mexico and Brazil, right? I'll do them tomorrow. I just can't accommodate nationalism in the way I see the world: I don't think you're any less special than my neighbour, and I don't think anything from my city must be necessarily better than anything else from Sidney. To me, being proud to be >insert nationality here< is as pointless as being proud to be born in a given month of the year. I see you as someone as special/interesting/valuable as a fellow countrymen. We're awesome, but so is everyone else.

You fucking hippie

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH

word lira!

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Originally posted by Lira I just can't accommodate nationalism in the way I see the world: I don't think you're any less special than my neighbour, and I don't think anything from my city must be necessarily better than anything else from Sidney. To me, being proud to be >insert nationality here< is as pointless as being proud to be born in a given month of the year. I see you as someone as special/interesting/valuable as a fellow countrymen. We're awesome, but so is everyone else.

+1

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Originally posted by bas You fucking hippie AMERICA, FUCK YEAH

Rumbled

Wait, since when are you American?

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Originally posted by bas Terry could be out!

GO ENGLAND!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN word lira!

Shut up you Tasmanian, no real country, inbred fuck

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Originally posted by Lira Everyone seems to mock your hometown, so I gave it a go:

outstanding

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I never picked you as a simple, parochial miscreant maligned by ruling class ideology

I'm not talking about loving your country, your flag or your prime minister. That is the stuff that leads to hatred and people enlisting to get killed for no good reason. The national football team is not a symbol of the ruling class but an expression of sporting culture. The English national squad is a direct representation of how this country plays and thinks about the sport, and they are an indelible part of the country's sporting psyche. Its success and failure reflects everything from local community sports to the Premiership, the entire English philosophy of playing football which is dictated by the grass-roots culture of this nation we all contribute to and are all a part of.

You can do whatever the fuck you like over in Australia, but you will not get what it means to be an England supporter.

haha yeah, im not trying to get the "english experience". its just a game, not a religion to me. but dont bollock on about how people should support their own national team as if that makes any sense. ive never been interested in australian football.

awesome work!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J You can do whatever the fuck you like over in Australia, but you will not get what it means to be an England supporter.

Well, you watch the match and support the team. If the team you support wins, good. There isn't much more to it

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Originally posted by Lira There isn't much more to it

You're a wise man, Lira, but not today.

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Originally posted by Lira Rumbled Wait, since when are you American?

Since forever?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I'm not talking about loving your country, your flag or your prime minister. That is the stuff that leads to hatred and people enlisting to get killed for no good reason. The national football team is not a symbol of the ruling class but an expression of sporting culture. The English national squad is a direct representation of how this country plays and thinks about the sport, and they are an indelible part of the country's sporting psyche. Its success and failure reflects everything from local community sports to the Premiership, the entire English philosophy of playing football which is dictated by the grass-roots culture of this nation we all contribute to and are all a part of. You can do whatever the fuck you like over in Australia, but you will not get what it means to be an England supporter.

Rhetoric. Nothing more, nothing less.

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