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I've never been to burning man... and I've never really talked to anyone whose gone, just seen pics... and I don't know why, but I'm a little creeped out by it.

Talk me off the ledge here... what about this event makes you all go? I'm not talking down the event or speaking in a condescending tone at all... I'm genuinely curious what appeal you guys are finding to warrant going.

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Originally posted by CReddick I've never been to burning man... and I've never really talked to anyone whose gone, just seen pics... and I don't know why, but I'm a little creeped out by it. Talk me off the ledge here... what about this event makes you all go? I'm not talking down the event or speaking in a condescending tone at all... I'm genuinely curious what appeal you guys are finding to warrant going.

Everybody seems to love the decimating heat during the day and the wind storms that constantly blow dirt in their faces. But I think the main draw is all the playa dust that ends up in all your crevices.

Beyond Mother Nature's constant barrage, it's all quite monotonous and rather boring.

I've just heard stories, but it sounds amazing. It's a lot more than just electronic music. It's about people contributing to one another's experience and having no money be involved what-so-ever. You also have to take care of yourself completely. Bring your own food, water, shelter, etc.

The negative side: An absurd amount of psychedelics are used by most attendees. I've been told by some that since I don't use drugs, I wouldn't enjoy myself there. I don't know if that's true, or they just think I'll be a buzzkill. :P

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Originally posted by Quazar The negative side: An absurd amount of psychedelics are used by most attendees.

Not really a negative at all.

Will give a full report when I get back. The main reasons I am going is to hang out with a ton of my good friends from all over the world in a crazy environment and have a great experience that I create without anyone telling me what is or is not allowed. The art out there looks amazing and the music is sick. So add all that up and let's see what happens.

there are no phones that work, you don't worry about the internet, you don't worry about your job, or your place in life, you feel free and relaxed......yes the conditions can be tough but it's a magical place from the vibe you get from all around you! i'm far from a hippie but i completely fell in love with BM last year and plan on going back as many times as i can. the experiences you have, the people you meet, the music you hear, the sights you see, the art, the art cars, the costumes, the temple, the tears, the letting go and finding love, the shear excitement you feel from being a place where 50,000 people all there for a common goal, surrounding the man before he burns.....the electricity that exudes off the crowd before he burns could run this country for a year
i'll be leaving super early thursday and it's only b/c of work. most of my camp is already there. btw, if anyone hasn't left yet we'll be at 4:00 and J so come find us

that is just a small part of why i love it. and no you don't have to do drugs to enjoy it. there are tons of sober people there, all walks of life, relating to each other, existing together, supporting each other in their experience on the playa. it's definitely a feeling, goes to your core when you get there and it's hard to shake. glad i finally went. Lee Burridge kept after me for 4 years to go before i finally had the opportunity to go. and now i'm hooked.....so if you think you might like it or are interested in going do yourself a favor and go. it is worth the trip. you won't regret it

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Originally posted by gypsygirl gypsygirl's post

This makes me want to go. That's what I thought the event was all about before people started telling me that if I don't do drugs, then don't bother.

Freeing myself from normal day-to-day society and finding what's really important in the world: each other. That's the way I try to live my life, and the daily capitalist grind makes it difficult to do so.

I'd probably enjoy it. Most people that meet me assume I've done plenty of psychedelic drugs before because of my views on the world and love of electronic music, and they're all very surprised when they find out I've never even smoked weed.

"high on life" is a cheesy phrase, but it rings true if you have the right mindset about things. Being able to feel the energy and auras of those around you and feeling like you can touch the stars when you raise your hands to the sky shouldn't only come from taking something.

I'd also like to say that I have no problem with others using drugs to enhance their experiences, as long as you do it responsibly. I just choose not to use them myself.

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Originally posted by Quazar This makes me want to go. That's what I thought the event was all about before people started telling me that if I don't do drugs, then don't bother. Freeing myself from normal day-to-day society and finding what's really important in the world: each other. That's the way I try to live my life, and the daily capitalist grind makes it difficult to do so. I'd probably enjoy it. Most people that meet me assume I've done plenty of psychedelic drugs before because of my views on the world and love of electronic music, and they're all very surprised when they find out I've never even smoked weed. "high on life" is a cheesy phrase, but it rings true if you have the right mindset about things. Being able to feel the energy and auras of those around you and feeling like you can touch the stars when you raise your hands to the sky shouldn't only come from taking something. I'd also like to say that I have no problem with others using drugs to enhance their experiences, as long as you do it responsibly. I just choose not to use them myself.

then you belong at burning man and should definitely go next year!!!
btw, are you from Atlanta? your avatar??? Braves

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Originally posted by gypsygirl then you belong at burning man and should definitely go next year!!! btw, are you from Atlanta? your avatar??? Braves

Yup, born & raised. Just moved to LA in May. I'm a big Braves & Falcons fan. :-)

I love California, though. You guys have everything. And the EDM scene is so huge here! I love it!

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Originally posted by Quazar Yup, born & raised. Just moved to LA in May. I'm a big Braves & Falcons fan. :-) I love California, though. You guys have everything. And the EDM scene is so huge here! I love it!

i grew up in atlanta too!!!! nice to have a few more southerners out here and the EDM scene is pretty ridiculous out here. love the braves!!!

Just got back and all I have to say that it was the most awesome, unique and funnest place I have ever been. Nothing is comparable. Ditto to what Sarah wrote above about it. But it really can't be put into words how great it is, just have to go and then you will understand.

Sickest environment for house and techno music, best vibe out of anywhere I've been in the world, no greasy douches, sunrise parties on the playa that are mind blowing, night time is like partying in space with the stars and moon shining brightly through the open air music stages and huge traveling lit up neon art cars, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Will post more later, but off to Cocomo for PePe and keep the party going.

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Originally posted by gypsygirl there are no phones that work, you don't worry about the internet, you don't worry about your job, or your place in life, you feel free and relaxed......yes the conditions can be tough but it's a magical place from the vibe you get from all around you! i'm far from a hippie but i completely fell in love with BM last year and plan on going back as many times as i can. the experiences you have, the people you meet, the music you hear, the sights you see, the art, the art cars, the costumes, the temple, the tears, the letting go and finding love, the shear excitement you feel from being a place where 50,000 people all there for a common goal, surrounding the man before he burns.....the electricity that exudes off the crowd before he burns could run this country for a year i'll be leaving super early thursday and it's only b/c of work. most of my camp is already there. btw, if anyone hasn't left yet we'll be at 4:00 and J so come find us that is just a small part of why i love it. and no you don't have to do drugs to enjoy it. there are tons of sober people there, all walks of life, relating to each other, existing together, supporting each other in their experience on the playa. it's definitely a feeling, goes to your core when you get there and it's hard to shake. glad i finally went. Lee Burridge kept after me for 4 years to go before i finally had the opportunity to go. and now i'm hooked.....so if you think you might like it or are interested in going do yourself a favor and go. it is worth the trip. you won't regret it

Well put. BM is energy in motion, no holds barred, loved up fun; interacting with people from all ages, 3 years old up to 60s and 70 years old. You learn a lot about yourself and other people on the playa. There is a party aspect to it, a spiritual aspect to it, a psychological aspect, a community aspect, an environmental aspect, the list goes on. The best experience on the planet. I can't wait to go back next year.

Im just coming back to earth from my first burn, and I cant speak highly enough about the entire concept and experience that it is.

I can see why some people may think its not for them. There is an important lesson in self reliance and survival to be learned. The camping aspect may drive some away, but I have been into the outdoors and camping my entire life so I welcomed that aspect with no troubles.

So many questions get answered once you spend a couple days on the playa. I had no idea why the organizers would pick such a remote, harsh location, why there is no money exchanged, why spilling anything onto the playa is forbidden, etc. After a few days you will realize why black rock city is actually the perfect spot for such a party, and why its rules are so important and help make the experience in BRC so much better.

I have been to many great parties around the world (IBIZA, WMC, BPM Festival, Lovefest, Love parade Berlin, etc) but BM stands apart to such an extent that it cant even really be classified as a party. It really is one big art project and a temporary utopia, completly derived from its participants. The people who attend burning man make it what it is year after year. Its an evolving display of creativity in nearly every aspect you can think of, that absolutely overwhelmes the senses.

What makes it so unique, is that it is going 24 hrs a day for a full week. Additionally, burners have set up a fully functioning city that is more organized than most permenant cities around the world. This makes for a sense of cummunity that isnt really present in events such as coachella or other short lived events that are not going 24 hrs a day for 7 full days. You have to put in a lot of work day in and day out building your camps and surviving the extreme environment, which makes the payoff of the entire experience much more appreciated.

The amount of work, materials, and art that is built up and taken down over the course of the week is absolutely mind blowing. There isnt really anything that anybody can tell you that will prepare you for the mind blowing experience of seeing the playa come alive each night.

As you can imagine, I highly reccommend the burning man experience. With more and more new burners, the creativity and event itself grows better and better and will evolve into whatever we all make of it. I can only imagine how different the burning man event is now from 15-20 years ago. Additionally, the lessons learned make life away from the playa better as well.

I've only been to Burning Man once and my review of it was

"It's the closest feeling you'll ever get to visiting another planet"

Your reviews have convinced me to plan for Burning Man next year or the year after before it gets too commercialized like the EDM scenes here in LA... (i.e. EDC 2010)

A lot of the lame old school BMers already say it's too commercialized.

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Originally posted by able.h Your reviews have convinced me to plan for Burning Man next year or the year after before it gets too commercialized like the EDM scenes here in LA... (i.e. EDC 2010)

the only aspect I was unimpressed by was the lack of quality music (which in most cases would ruin my entire experience) There was alot of music everywhere, and I chose to just roam aimlessly rather than follow some organized rigid schedule to seek out music. Unfortunately I stumbled across alot of bad music. For some odd reason alot of djs found electro to be a good idea at a desert party.

I was expecting alot of psytrance and dubstep, but found alot of bad techno and electro. Desert parties (and psychedelics) are best suited for deep progressive and psychedlic music IMO. I found an abundance of neither. I need to make a better attempt to get involved with a camp to play myself as the music I played at our own camp seemed to always go over very well. I feel I have a solid grasp on good desert party/outdoor tunes.

Next year I will better plan my direction to be sure I hear higher quality music.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen Im just coming back to earth from my first burn, and I cant speak highly enough about the entire concept and experience that it is. I can see why some people may think its not for them. There is an important lesson in self reliance and survival to be learned. The camping aspect may drive some away, but I have been into the outdoors and camping my entire life so I welcomed that aspect with no troubles. So many questions get answered once you spend a couple days on the playa. I had no idea why the organizers would pick such a remote, harsh location, why there is no money exchanged, why spilling anything onto the playa is forbidden, etc. After a few days you will realize why black rock city is actually the perfect spot for such a party, and why its rules are so important and help make the experience in BRC so much better. I have been to many great parties around the world (IBIZA, WMC, BPM Festival, Lovefest, Love parade Berlin, etc) but BM stands apart to such an extent that it cant even really be classified as a party. It really is one big art project and a temporary utopia, completly derived from its participants. The people who attend burning man make it what it is year after year. Its an evolving display of creativity in nearly every aspect you can think of, that absolutely overwhelmes the senses. What makes it so unique, is that it is going 24 hrs a day for a full week. Additionally, burners have set up a fully functioning city that is more organized than most permenant cities around the world. This makes for a sense of cummunity that isnt really present in events such as coachella or other short lived events that are not going 24 hrs a day for 7 full days. You have to put in a lot of work day in and day out building your camps and surviving the extreme environment, which makes the payoff of the entire experience much more appreciated. The amount of work, materials, and art that is built up and taken down over the course of the week is absolutely mind blowing. There isnt really anything that anybody can tell you that will prepare you for the mind blowing experience of seeing the playa come alive each night. As you can imagine, I highly reccommend the burning man experience. With more and more new burners, the creativity and event itself grows better and better and will evolve into whatever we all make of it. I can only imagine how different the burning man event is now from 15-20 years ago. Additionally, the lessons learned make life away from the playa better as well.

I stopped by your camp early Saturday morning with Arthur, you were either alseep or out somewhere burning... not sure which one

I agree with everything you say here. Very well put. I hope to see you next year. Your white bus looked pretty cool.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen For some odd reason alot of djs found electro to be a good idea at a desert party.

That's weird, I've never been to BM myself but I would imagine Burning Man should be playing a lot more progressive tunes, or like you said psychedelics, probably something like this:

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen I need to make a better attempt to get involved with a camp to play myself as the music I played at our own camp seemed to always go over very well. I feel I have a solid grasp on good desert party/outdoor tunes.

As of bringing your own turntable + sound system? Are they allowing that in BM, or do you need to have a special permit? I think you should Josh

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen the only aspect I was unimpressed by was the lack of quality music (which in most cases would ruin my entire experience) There was alot of music everywhere, and I chose to just roam aimlessly rather than follow some organized rigid schedule to seek out music. Unfortunately I stumbled across alot of bad music. For some odd reason alot of djs found electro to be a good idea at a desert party. I was expecting alot of psytrance and dubstep, but found alot of bad techno and electro. Desert parties (and psychedelics) are best suited for deep progressive and psychedlic music IMO. I found an abundance of neither. I need to make a better attempt to get involved with a camp to play myself as the music I played at our own camp seemed to always go over very well. I feel I have a solid grasp on good desert party/outdoor tunes. Next year I will better plan my direction to be sure I hear higher quality music.

Some nights the music was pretty good, others not so much... heard a lot of dubstep and electro. DJ Dan's set at Roots Society on the night of the Burn was pretty stellar; funky, disco-infused, progressive electro and techno. I also enjoyed the 80s music from Planet Earth. Some of the camps like Nexxus had really good dubstep in the early morning. Disorient from NYC had some good progressive during sunrise on Thursday morning with really good electro earlier in the night. The deep house on the other nights really wasn't my cup of tea. Crystal Method also had a good DJ set at Roots Society; the best I've ever heard from them; sick breaks. The art cars had a mix of good breaks/electro/psy-trance and some shitty mariachi music.There was actually some good psy-trance on a two-level art car/bus that picked us up from Roots Society.

I'm down to collaborate with you if you want to get some good psychedelic music for next year.

I thought there was way less dubstep and lots more techno than last year, which I appreciated for the most part. Its funny cause electro still seems to be hugely represented when its kind of faded elsewhere. I think that lots of burners aren't really into EDM outside of BM so the cheesier stuff tends to work better for the crowd out there. Psytrance supposedly used to be big but I didn't hear ANY this year or much at all the past few years.

Did anyone else catch Kalkbrenner @ Root Society's wall stage? That was a sick fucking set, and what an insane stage...

EDIT: Josh nailed the description of BM btw.

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Originally posted by Sadface I think that lots of burners aren't really into EDM outside of BM so the cheesier stuff tends to work better for the crowd out there.

True, my friend Alex (2nd burn) said the only time he listens to EDM is with me and our friend Gen at Burningman. He could care less for it otherwise.

I thought it was cool that you had a variety of options to choose from. I especially enjoyed the camps playing Snoop, Dre, and Pac.

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Originally posted by djjoshuaallen Im just coming back to earth from my first burn, and I cant speak highly enough about the entire concept and experience that it is.

Greatest opening statement I've ever read

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Originally posted by able.h That's weird, I've never been to BM myself but I would imagine Burning Man should be playing a lot more progressive tunes, or like you said psychedelics, probably something like this: As of bringing your own turntable + sound system? Are they allowing that in BM, or do you need to have a special permit? I think you should Josh

We brought our own setup and built a small structure for it and rocked out plenty of afterhrs at camp.

I did see burridge twice. Once at sunset, and finally Sunday sunrise he showed up at electric ladyland about 2 hrs late I think.

Opulant temple had a few good moments. I saw dan play at rooots society, but wasn't into that at all. That Barbara streisand track???? Wow

The music was a letdown, but it was still great. To bad cl and cox didn't come back

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Originally posted by Sadface ...I think that lots of burners aren't really into EDM outside of BM so the cheesier stuff tends to work better for the crowd out there...

That's 100% correct. For us, the music is really important, so it'll usually be meh for us there. If I ever go, it'll be hang out with friends.


Another reason why I love Coachella: I know I'll like the music there (and I get to pick and choose who I see).

I still wouldn't say the music at BM is even remotely bad because unless you're into fluffy trance there's always going to be something you like somewhere on the playa. You just gotta go with the flow and not get hung up on partying at the really huge camps.

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