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Originally posted by CODE This thread is giving me a good laugh. Some of the comments and whining are just too funny. People need to realize how many stupid and out of control factors promoters have to deal with when doing and planning an event. Pat is a great promoter and he is not in the business to screw anyone for profit. Actually i am sure he does these event because he loves the music and wants to showcase his favorite sound. Do you guys actually think that the promoters wanted to turn down the music and not stick with what they had planned. sometimes shit happens and you have to go with the flow and work around it. Maybe when some of you start organizing events yourself youll see how hard it is to work with venues and such....especially Sunnyside. just be positive that we even have parties like this in toronto and yes they sometimes dont go exacly as planned but alteast parties like this happen. everyone that i talked too said it was one of the best sunnysides ever.

honestly, this is exactly how the promoter should NOT react to negative reviews, and I was worried Pat would take that stance too, but thankfully he didn't
it's funny how customer complaints are whining - to me it just sounds that you're sticking to a fellow promoter
I'm never the first to complaint about the party, but this time I felt dissatifised and proceeded to voice my concerns in the review thread - just like anyone should
promoters should be taking a note of that, and not act all smartypants and arrogant about negative feedback - just like Pat did, and kuddos to him

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Originally posted by patboogie my next Sunnyside event with Dennis Ferrer on Labour Day Long Weekend, Sunday, September 5th

wow, what an unreal weekend this is turning out to be...

carola on saturday.
ferrer at sunnyside on sunday.
joris on a boat on monday.

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Originally posted by mickmack I'm actually shocked about all of the negative reviews.

as am I ... personally I had a great night and I don't have any complaints with the actual party.

The only thing that sucked about the night for me was the traffic getting into the venue. I never thought it would have been that bad. I wish I could go see Dennis Ferrer on Labour Day weekend but unfortunately that will be a no go for me.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew honestly, this is exactly how the promoter should NOT react to negative reviews, and I was worried Pat would take that stance too, but thankfully he didn't it's funny how customer complaints are whining - to me it just sounds that you're sticking to a fellow promoter I'm never the first to complaint about the party, but this time I felt dissatifised and proceeded to voice my concerns in the review thread - just like anyone should promoters should be taking a note of that, and not act all smartypants and arrogant about negative feedback - just like Pat did, and kuddos to him

that's because I wear fancypants, not smartypants

big respect to the platform crew... looking forward to bozdin!!

Thanks for taking the time out to reply as I appreciate your comments. One thing that really bothers me is this:

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Originally posted by patboogie i was not deliberately deceiving people out of greed so please don't make it sound that way. I am not that kind of person and I try to conduct my business with honesty and integrity.

which I think is null because you lied deliberately and said:

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Originally posted by patboogie - I had to make a decision. Advertise that the Gardiner Expressway shut down on the night of our event, OR, simply, encourage people to arrive early. I have a feeling that if I chose option #1 it would have had a very negative effect on ticket sales and my hopes for a successful Anniversary event. - We decided that the best way to approach the promtion of this event was to just encourage people to arrive early.

I think this is unacceptable and unethical. To "encourage" people to arrive early and say that TMB were playing early and lie about it is shady. I understand that you need to make target but this isn't the way to do it. I would rather take my chances and tell the truth then to deliberately lie and have a bad reputation because of people's complaints. You can't expect to pull a stunt like this and not have people voice their feedback. I don't think I'm out of line here or "whining."

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Originally posted by CODE sometimes shit happens and you have to go with the flow and work around it. Maybe when some of you start organizing events yourself youll see how hard it is to work with venues and such....especially Sunnyside.

Be it as it may, but as far as I remember, you have never lied about set times and deejay appearances. When a deejay cancelled you have notified everyone right away. If you read through this thread, Pat Boogie deliberately lied for self benefit.

I was initially pretty annoyed about the lack of set times being disclosed but it actually worked out really well for me...walked in 20 min before TMB came on, found a cozy spot near the front and enjoyed the show! I also got my drink on prior to going so I wasn't affected by the overpriced drinks

The venue was wicked.. the weather was perfect...The sparklers were a nice touch....The volume was ok (for once I felt like my heart wasn't pounding against my ribs), and the crowd was awesome! Overall (asides from the traffic situation) I had a great night.

all i gotta say is wow @ some of the comments...

keep up the good work pat..you've done a ton for the deep house scene in this city and your parties are always top notch..

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Originally posted by Cribby Be it as it may, but as far as I remember, you have never lied about set times and deejay appearances. When a deejay cancelled you have notified everyone right away. If you read through this thread, Pat Boogie deliberately lied for self benefit.

come on cribby
if platform was to do a day time event at sunnyside they would not disclose set times either, it's not a club and with a day party it is very difficult to set up exact set times as many factors come into play with many djs.. sunnyside is notorious for fucking promoters over trust me, it is a nice venue but to throw an event there is very difficult.. few days before the event they may announce that there may be some concert during the day cutting down the hours that the promoter has already assigned to someone to play or use that time to setup all the equipment etc. I'm sure originally TMB were supposed to be on earlier as i remmeber the party was supposed to start around 2 but then now the party starts at like 7-8. Then gardiner get's shutdown and then the music get's turned down by the club and everyone still manages to have a good times, even though he may have "lied" about the times i think at the end he still managed to have a pretty good event looking at those pictures.

Kristina, you may not know a lot of those local deep house dj's and you do not want to hear them but some of them are bigger than some of your local techno/trance dj that play here on a regular basis. TMB play the same type of music so i don't know why you did not have a good time.

I'm finding it a bit funny people complain about TOTA reviews being all about kissing ass and every partying being "the best party they've ever been to." But the second anyone gives any negative feedback, people jump on them. That being said, there's definitely a difference between people just bitching about the party, and those who are trying to offer constructive criticism.

I didn't go to this party, so I can't actually make any comments on it, but I just thought that was humorous.

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Originally posted by geroin Kristina, you may not know a lot of those local deep house dj's and you do not want to hear them but some of them are bigger than some of your local techno/trance dj that play here on a regular basis. TMB play the same type of music so i don't know why you did not have a good time.

dude seriously? I *know* a lot of locals who I enjoy when I get to hear them play! That wasn't my point at all - and I don't listen to techno lol neither do I listen to trance exclusively...
I'm with Cribby in regards to set times. All we are saying is that it would have been better to know what's going on in terms of who is playing when..

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I'm finding it a bit funny people complain about TOTA reviews being all about kissing ass and every partying being "the best party they've ever been to." But the second anyone gives any negative feedback, people jump on them. That being said, there's definitely a difference between people just bitching about the party, and those who are trying to offer constructive criticism.

of course - I guess everyone who had a good time is having a hard time understanding why someone wouldn't

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew dude seriously? I *know* a lot of locals who I enjoy when I get to hear them play! That wasn't my point at all - and I don't listen to techno lol neither do I listen to trance exclusively... I'm with Cribby in regards to set times. All we are saying is that it would have been better to know what's going on in terms of who is playing when..

I understand your frustration with the set times, but in reading your first post, I kind of thought the same thing as Gera because it reads (perhaps we're reading it wrong) "Who the hell are these locals that I've never heard of? I don't know them, so I don't want to listen to them. I'd rather be listening to TMB"

I just love how everyone needs to know set times. If you don't want to miss your DJ then get their early and stay till they finish. If you want to see them bad enough then you wouldn't make plans for later that night.

If I was a promoter I wouldn't give out set times....ever.

Do you guys not realize how ridiculous you sound? You (complainers) all come off like a bunch of 12 year old DJ worshipping fanboys. No offense, lol.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I understand your frustration with the set times, but in reading your first post, I kind of thought the same thing as Gera because it reads (perhaps we're reading it wrong) "Who the hell are these locals that I've never heard of? I don't know them, so I don't want to listen to them. I'd rather be listening to TMB"

read Cribby's post - he's WAY angrier then me
well pretty much - I'm sorry if I'm offending anyone but that's exactly how I felt, standing there for 4 hours waiting for nothing
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it
I didn't mind listening to the openning act but it dragged for way too long! 4 hour openning sets? If we showed up at like 11pm, this all would be irrelevent, because TMB would have started 1.5 hours later and Bob's your uncle - we raced there early SPECIFICALLY after reading promoter's instructions that TMB will play an earlier set

and honestly, I'm quite fed up with other posters' irrelevent OMG you're a bunch of whiners responces - people can stfu already.

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Originally posted by jennypie Do you guys not realize how ridiculous you sound? You (complainers) all come off like a bunch of 12 year old DJ worshipping fanboys. No offense, lol.

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Originally posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* I'm finding it a bit funny people complain about TOTA reviews being all about kissing ass and every partying being "the best party they've ever been to." But the second anyone gives any negative feedback, people jump on them. That being said, there's definitely a difference between people just bitching about the party, and those who are trying to offer constructive criticism.

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