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i ashamed

though im lucky to live in a society where processed food is a staple diet

until you've tried dog or cat don't knock it.

Fresh monkey brains is also good.

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Originally posted by Chimney In my country there is a saying: "Chinese people eat whatever moves"

There's a lot of countries where people say that. The worst part is that it could be true

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Originally posted by D-res I stopped reading here so forgive me if I'm regurgitating content that's already been covered, but I think this becomes a very valid argument if we're talking about pork. Cows are fucking retarded. Pigs are comparably and in some cases more intelligent than dogs. The inhumanity of slaughtering our favorite pets for nourishment is only so because they're domesticated - we recognize and enjoy their intelligence. As much as I love a fat piece of bacon, factory-fresh pork is rather fucked up. Edit: fuck I'm wayyy late

You know, my bf and I were talking about this the other day. If pigs are so fucking smart, why do they shit where they eat and sleep? Disgusting creatures.

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Originally posted by jennypie You know, my bf and I were talking about this the other day. If pigs are so fucking smart, why do they shit where they eat and sleep? Disgusting creatures.

Yeah. Kind of like those trapped Chilean miners. Fuck - go use the bathroom out fucking side, ffs.

mike vick would be a king in china.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i might not agree with the way the chinese treat their animals, but imo its worth it just to see halcyon spit the dummy you're an idiot. the last thing you want to do is eat an animal that died of "natural causes".

why is that, they've been pretty good so far. The key is to get ones that die within a day or so. No maggots etc...

Also the stiffness of the animal is key in determining length of time they have been dead.

Flies around them ect.. is a clear give away.

Lookig for any signs of desease rabies etc.. is also important.. but otherwise it is all good.

Arguably it is safer than mushroom hunting.

None the less you are an idiot if you think you have a higher chance of getting a diseased animal that is dead than one you kill.. live animals can be diseased too.
Domestic animals are pumped full of chemicals. (hgh leading to early onset of puberty and growth defects such as cancer)

There is no win win.

People risk samonila and worse from supermarket foods. Refridgeration questions, etc..

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Originally posted by ******** why is that, they've been pretty good so far.

Keep at it. If it works for you, don't stop. Bubonic Plague, Rabies, Hepatitis, Tuberculosis, Cholera; many animals carry these diseases but they certainly don't always die from them and even if they do - it's perfectly natural.













*Awaits ******** tape-worm medical advice (flamebait) thread.*

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On That's very nice, you smug fuck. I'm well aware of your argument, it's simply not the same. The conditions that these cats and dogs are kept under are DEPLORABLE. Do you know this word and its many variants? It's not the same thing because in most developed countries there exist laws that strictly stipulate their commerce as well as execution and generally speaking, it's as swift and efficient as possible. Until then, cows live a life of grazing with one another in the sun and green grass; just as they would opt to do had no human lorded over them. Indeed, it is in a slaughterhouse's best interest to keep things as sterile and quick as possible so as to minimize the chances of viral infection and diseases, as well as the cleanup process and re-purpose/packaging. I've seen it myself - for cows, there is a device called a "knocker"; it's a foot-long, steel spike that penetrates their skull in less than a second and drops them before they even know a bit of pain. They are cut up after they are fully dead because this minimizes the chances of their thrashing around and damaging anything/anyone. In China, there exist no laws to restrict the commerce of animal processing. Indeed, the Chinese Government itself hires people to go into the streets and beat stray dogs to death so that they can be skinned or eaten for a paltry price, all in the interest of "public health". But that's for the lucky ones; many dogs and cats are corralled into cages as full as they can stuff them, left in the sun and weather for exposure, going insane from fright and squalid conditions of starvation and physical abuse, several of them still having collars on because they were simply plucked from the streets or even people's homes due to the complete lack of governmental ordinance and management of the particular industry. But don't get me wrong, I would say the chicken processing industry has a history of being quite similar - and indeed, the US saw a recent, massive egg recall because these same conditions were so mismanaged, so horrible, and so lacking in governmental oversight that people were put in harm as well. How long before the almost completely unrestricted situation in China results in a communicable disease so lethal that nobody left remembers Communism?

+1 mate, nailed it.

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Originally posted by ******** why is that, they've been pretty good so far. The key is to get ones that die within a day or so. No maggots etc... Also the stiffness of the animal is key in determining length of time they have been dead. Flies around them ect.. is a clear give away. Lookig for any signs of desease rabies etc.. is also important.. but otherwise it is all good. Arguably it is safer than mushroom hunting. None the less you are an idiot if you think you have a higher chance of getting a diseased animal that is dead than one you kill.. live animals can be diseased too. Domestic animals are pumped full of chemicals. There is no win win. People risk samonila and worse from supermarket foods. Refridgeration questions, etc..

Classic Ashley.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker Keep at it. If it works for you, don't stop. Bubonic Plague, Rabies, Hepatitis, Tuberculosis, Cholera; many animals carry these diseases but they certainly don't always die from them and even if they do - it's perfectly natural. *Awaits ******** tape-worm medical advice (flamebait) thread.*

living animals can have those conditions too moran. (they can also slip into the food supply of domestic animals)

As stated above you test these for these things before eating the animal - some can be easily tested some are mostly redundant.
the wonders of HGH only one of the chemicals grown into your food altering your natural homeostasis.


http://www.buzzle.com/articles/huma...de-effects.html

http://www.copperwiki.org/index.php...ormones_in_Food


There are potential risks with everything you eat. Reduce risks as you may. I don't see a reason to let perfectly good meat go to waste, especially if it is free. I don't feel the need to kill animals to survive though. No harm done.

People like PKC are either misinformed, unreasonably biased, or overly paranoid. Wild animal game is perfectly fine to eat as compared to commercial foods if you screen it. It is actually fresher and healthier. (With less chance of industrial contamination)

Animals that free range have a wider diet selection and eat natural foods that can have lots of extra percs that regiment foods give animals.

It is a little like the difference between common field mushrooms or wild mushrooms.. wild mushrooms can have a lot of good things commercial mushrooms don't have.

Another example of how we react to source foods.. for example whole milk my stomach absolutely loves, processed milks and dairy my stomach doeesn't like. I can eat both of them but I feel 120% better with the whole milk. You can not only taste the difference between whole and processed foods but you feel it too. Food is food and you have what you have.. however don't knock it till you've tried it. No need to try it but don't knock it if you have absolutely no freaken idea about it.

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Originally posted by ******** living animals can have those conditions too moran. (they can also slip into the food supply of domestic animals) As stated above you test these for these things before eating the animal - some can be easily tested some are mostly redundant. the wonders of HGH only one of the chemicals grown into your food altering your natural homeostasis. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/huma...de-effects.html http://www.copperwiki.org/index.php...ormones_in_Food

Indeed, they can slip into the food supply; however, the probability is much lower due to things like vetrinary care for live stock, proper living conditions, proper nutrition, antibiotics, proper slaughter, proper packing, food inspections, etc. Oddly enough, there is no such controls in place when you grill up an animal you find dead in the forest next to a wild mushroom, laptop, and dime bage of weed.

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Originally posted by ******** Wild animal game is perfectly fine to eat as compared to commercial foods if you screen it. It is actually fresher and healtier.

Game is very different from scavanged carcasses.

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Originally posted by ******** living animals can have those conditions too moran. As stated above you test these for these things before eating the animal the wonders of HGH only one of the chemicals grown into your food altering your natural homeostasis. http://www.buzzle.com/articles/huma...de-effects.html http://www.copperwiki.org/index.php...ormones_in_Food

You're the expert, here, washley and if you said that I implied animals don't live with those diseases, then perhaps, somewhat foolishly, I have misread my own writing and am truly the moranic plebe suffering under the weight of your gargantuan intellect.

I didn't mean to challenge you. Please accept my sincerest apologies. You have the sagacity of a vulture. Please, refrain from plucking out my eyes.



EDIT: Not nearly enough coffee.

OOOOH NO NO NO NO NO! OOOOH NO! NO NO NO NO!

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Indeed, they can slip into the food supply; however, the probability is much lower due to things like vetrinary care for live stock, proper living conditions, proper nutrition, antibiotics, proper slaughter, proper packing, food inspections, etc. Oddly enough, there is no such controls in place when you grill up an animal you find dead in the forest next to a wild mushroom, laptop, and dime bage of weed.

No you are the control if you boil meat found in the wild! Personally I trust myself before companies that do recalls now and then - AFTER products ship.

You are adding this element of gross irresponsibility that shouldn't exist in reasonable people who find animals or mushrooms in the woods. You are implying a mindless chowdown. Research the stuff and exercise caution. If you can't think or be responsible I suggest you not try it MoralHazard.

I guess you have this sense of absolute food security that doesn't exist in the real world.

http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english...recaltoce.shtml

And these are the ones they have found -- think of this in terms of crimes commited and have come to justice.... in Canada? Have you seen someone break the law and them get away with it. Apply that concept to food safety now.

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Originally posted by ******** No you are the control if you boil meat found in the wild!

While boiling and/or thorough cooking will kill most to all bacteria it has no effect on many of the toxins generated by said bacteria.

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If you can't think or be responsible I suggest you not try it MoralHazard.

By avoiding the entirely unncessary risk of eating animals found dead by unknown means I am being responsible, no?

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I guess you have this sense of absolute food security that doesn't exist in the real world.

Not at all, I just believe in sound risk management principles. The reward (free meat) of eating things I find dead somewhere simply isn't worth the risks involved in said activity, which are much higher then the risks of consuming commercially produced meat.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard While boiling and/or thorough cooking will kill most to all bacteria it has no effect on many of the toxins generated by said bacteria. By avoiding the entirely unncessary risk of eating animals found dead by unknown means I am being responsible, no? Not at all, I just believe in sound risk management principles. The reward (free meat) of eating things I find dead somewhere simply isn't worth the risks involved in said activity, which are much higher then the risks of consuming commercially produced meat.

You would have him kill his prey with his air-soft rifle which shoots home-made ricin pellets?

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Originally posted by EddieZilker You would have him kill his prey with his air-soft rifle which shoots home-made ricin pellets?

Not so sure ricin would be a safe bet. I (and by "I" I mean Mrs. Hazard) tend to do my hunting at the local organic butcher or supermarket. To me that seems the best way to go about it.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Not so sure ricin would be a safe bet. I (and by "I" I mean Mrs. Hazard) tend to do my hunting at the local organic butcher or supermarket. To me that seems the best way to go about it.

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...16&pagenumber=8

Scroll down to the first post where I quote ********. It's another one of his ideas.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...16&pagenumber=8 Scroll down to the first post where I quote ********. It's another one of his ideas.

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Originally posted by jennypie You know, my bf and I were talking about this the other day. If pigs are so fucking smart, why do they shit where they eat and sleep? Disgusting creatures.

Dogs sniff eachother's assholes, and eagerly sop up their own fresh vomit from the floor. Let's purge the world of these putrid infantile creatures.

<3 Craig.

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Originally posted by Enigmatik <3 Craig.

we should totally make out

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