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This thread is shit.

JBJ, its probably nothing serious, some degradation is to be expected from your ears over time I think. It does usually sound like a lowpass filter being applied, or like tinnitus. Be glad you don't have the second one

Maybe give listening to music a break for a bit, or restrict yourself to an hour a day. It doesn't have to be very loud to be damaging if its quite constant, especially if you've been using headphones to produce/listen. Even low volumes for a long time can be quite bad for you AFAIK.

Kismet go to a hearing expert please, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Fuck.

Loud high pitched noises are far more damaging than lower pitched ones. Fact.


Oh and this.
Let's just assume you (kismet) are right (which you're obviously not), could you answer this for me?

Why is it that hearing protection especially attenuates the higher frequencies? If lower frequencies are the problem wouldn't that render the protection useless? So you're saying I paid 150Euro's for custom made protection that doesn't work?

GTFO!

Edit: Proof - brochure of my hearing protection with attenuation curves

"Fuck yeah hereing problems are a bitch" -atxbigballer1

Mad For Brad is absolutely right.

Kismet, why don't you try sitting in a small room listening to an 80hz tone for an hour, and then do the same thing but whilst listening to an 8000hz tone, then say which one hurts your ears more (which one causes ringing in your ears, which is a sign of hearing damage).

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Originally posted by Storyteller Kismet go to a hearing expert please, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Fuck. Loud high pitched noises are far more damaging than lower pitched ones. Fact. Oh and this. Let's just assume you (kismet) are right (which you're obviously not), could you answer this for me? Why is it that hearing protection especially attenuates the higher frequencies? If lower frequencies are the problem wouldn't that render the protection useless? So you're saying I paid 150Euro's for custom made protection that doesn't work? GTFO!

If you read the thread...which you did not because that would have required reading comprehension skill on your part, and the average forum troll fails in reading comprehension...you would realise there is more to damage than frequencies...there are amplitudes involved. And in dance tracks the kick is highest amplitude, very rarily is it a sound that is 4khz. I can listen to a sound that is 4khz and sits in the mix, far longer than i can stand a kick at a higher volume. Anyhow...the discussion is over...but thanks for throwing ur self into the mix after it is done...typical TA troll ethics. Overall Grade : Fail

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Originally posted by Kismet7 If you read the thread...which you did not because that would have required reading comprehension skill on your part, and the average forum troll fails in reading comprehension...you would realise there is more to damage than frequencies...there are amplitudes involved. And in dance tracks the kick is highest amplitude, very rarily is it a sound that is 4khz. I can listen to a sound that is 4khz and sits in the mix, far longer than i can stand a kick at a higher volume. Anyhow...the discussion is over...but thanks for throwing ur self into the mix after it is done...typical TA troll ethics. Overall Grade : Fail

I've read the whole thread, and to be fair, the following was your first contribution to it:

"tip: when you're not making mixing decisions on the bass portion of tracks....turn down the bass eq on your speakers/monitors or filter it out with EQ...this will help save your hearing in the long run...especially if you use headphones."

...implying that you think that bass has a significant effect on hearing damage, when this is not the case at all.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 If you read the thread...which you did not because that would have required reading comprehension skill on your part, and the average forum troll fails in reading comprehension...you would realise there is more to damage than frequencies...there are amplitudes involved. And in dance tracks the kick is highest amplitude, very rarily is it a sound that is 4khz. I can listen to a sound that is 4khz and sits in the mix, far longer than i can stand a kick at a higher volume. Anyhow...the discussion is over...but thanks for throwing ur self into the mix after it is done...typical TA troll ethics. Overall Grade : Fail

Again. Hearing. Specialist. Please. Get. Informed. By. A. Professional.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Again. Hearing. Specialist. Please. Get. Informed. By. A. Professional.

Go back to 7th grade reading homework assignments. Or attempt at reading the thread...ask a friend to narrate when you hit a wall.


tip : dictionary.com + wikipedia

to help you understand words longer than 6 letters.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Again. Hearing. Specialist. Please. Get. Informed. By. A. Professional.

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Originally posted by Storyteller

yay games. Do you have a Super Nintendo? I wish i still had one.

Anyhow...

Go back to 7th grade reading homework assignments. Or attempt at reading the thread...ask a friend to narrate when you hit a wall.


tip : dictionary.com + wikipedia

to help you understand words longer than 6 letters.

Edit: Proof - brochure of my hearing protection with attenuation curves

aka professional.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Edit: Proof - brochure of my hearing protection with attenuation curves aka professional.

Do me a favor. Read that link you posted(ask a friend who has passed English 101 with a B or higher to help you), and tell me...does a -20db 4khz sound damage your ear more than a -7db Kick. Will bet you anything, the -7db kick will hurt you more over a long period of time. My advice is turn it down or eq it out when you have set your kick level and most of your other levels, especially when you are for the most part arranging music and playing back your arrangement. Free advice.

Hey... What are the key frequencies of a nice punchy kick?

When you wipe your ass, do you look at the paper if it's still got shit on it? I know I did, but I stopped a few days ago. And now I can feel an uncomfortable itch near my anus all the time. I think it's because of the excess hair near the hole, the shit just gets stuck there and forms into something that you could call dreadlocks if they only took place in some dark skinned head.

The problem is, I'm afraid to shave my assial hair because of the stubble. That could tear my ass into one fucked up bloody crack of an ass when walking.

Kismet and JEO, you could both benefit from a visit to a professional for the applicable subjects.

Don't get me wrong, I was not in any way partaking the discussion about the subject in hand. Don't flame me bro. I know nothing about these fucking curves you all are arguing about.

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Originally posted by Kismet7 does a -20db 4khz sound damage your ear more than a -7db Kick. Will bet you anything, the -7db kick will hurt you more over a long period of time.

Depends on the SPL volume. This is where Fletcher-Munson comes in and given the chart the 4khz signal would be a bigger problem for sure in most cases.

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Originally posted by JEO Don't get me wrong, I was not in any way partaking the discussion about the subject in hand. Don't flame me bro. I know nothing about these fucking curves you all are arguing about.

No worries here mate. I was just saying get those problems between the cheecks solved . Must be a pain in the...

Man I'm clueless on what to do about it. I just don't know how to explain it to a doctor. I know they can be a problem if you're fat, because of the usual excrement of an obese person being quite un-sturdy, but I'm not fat at all! My butt always gets compliments from ladies around, little does any of them know it's a completely different ball game between the cheeks.

wtf

so like what is your bristol rating ?

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Originally posted by kitphillips JBJ, its probably nothing serious, some degradation is to be expected from your ears over time I think.

I already know I have age-related degradation. I can no longer hear anything above 16 or maybe 16.5 kHz in either ear, but that is normal for someone in mid-twenties.

This phenomenon is recent and rather sudden. Normal aging of hearing does not occur lopsidedly, nor does it simply appear one day.

And I have already given up listening to music, since it sounds bad lopsided.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I already know I have age-related degradation. I can no longer hear anything above 16 or maybe 16.5 kHz in either ear, but that is normal for someone in mid-twenties.

Hear degradation always sounds daunting to me. How old are you now? I can't imagine how it would be looking at a spectrum analyzer that shows frequencies only above 16 kHz and I can't hear anything.. Fuck I don't want to get older.

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Originally posted by JEO Hear degradation always sounds daunting to me. How old are you now? I can't imagine how it would be looking at a spectrum analyzer that shows frequencies only above 16 kHz and I can't hear anything.. Fuck I don't want to get older.

I am twenty-six.

I am hoping they figure out how to regrow the hair cells in human ears sometime in the next twenty or thirty years, so everyone with sensorineural and age-related hearing loss can get kid hearing again. Birds and reptiles can regrow those cells, so scientists need to figure out how to turn on that function in humans.

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Originally posted by Storyteller Depends on the SPL volume. This is where Fletcher-Munson comes in and given the chart the 4khz signal would be a bigger problem for sure in most cases.

+1

Kismet try this and tell me that 4khz is less annoying than for instance 250hz on the same volume.

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html

Wow what a thread!

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