Does anyone have any tips on Funky House production?

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Posted by Zak McKracken on Sep-14-2010 21:32:

when reading through all your bullshit posts one has to look for words that stands out. this time it was "loop" and "lazy". enough for me to conclude whats your opinion. also my statement wasnt aiming at you spesificly but more at the general thought around here about the issue. it has been discussed before.

Posted by Looney4Clooney on Sep-14-2010 21:39:

your last post had the words bullshit and opinion. Should I assume this is a decent paraphrase of what you just said ? Are all norwegians this mentally challenged or did you spend many hours in your youth playing plastic bag on head. It is no wonder you never finish anything considering you can barely parse your way thru a few sentences. Perhaps you need to see a doctor ?

Posted by Zak McKracken on Sep-14-2010 21:52:

need to what a doctor, lol?
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Perhaps you need to a doctor ?

Posted by music2dance2 on Sep-14-2010 22:41:

Agreed on what FSP said and others sampling is good start if thats the sounds you are after, that daft punk french filtered stuff. Messing about with samples gives you ideas to create something new also.

I had a go at sampling some old tracks see below

Justin Allen - Life by Justin Allen

Posted by Scrittah on Sep-14-2010 23:27:

So how do you guys find tracks to sample? I don't really know any funk besides James Brown and a few tunes here and there, so can anyone point me in the right direction?

Posted by music2dance2 on Sep-14-2010 23:44:

Youtube funk, 80's, 70's stuff, disco, all that. People make mix sets of loads of tracks or have single tracks on there. You can then find stuff you may like to sample.

Check these links to give you and idea on what tracks you may wanna look for and how to use the samples

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJPdVVOmbz4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I85D...feature=related

Posted by -FSP- on Sep-15-2010 02:58:

Dunno what you guys are reading from brad's post, but i don't see what you guys are seeing . I would like to add to his post: if you do your own guitars, rhodes, clavs, etc.; I feel things go smoother (smoother does not mean easier!) than sampling if you have a plan out for the song. If you want a guitar part, synth part, clav layer, and so and so, then you just put it in your song. Compare that to sampling loops, you pretty much have to do what the loop tells you to do. It's more dynamic than sampling, but there are challenges that come with that freedom .

The thing with sampling is that it may be easier in many cases, but you'll be doing a lot of hard work crate digging. Going through my dad's record collection, I found that the songs I wanted to use to sample in my 2 month french house phase were already used in older songs. Many of the songs just don't have housey parts in their structure either. When you hear a hook, it'll just come to you.

I find serendipity too much a factor when it comes to sampling since I don't come in with a structured gameplan. The only gameplan I had when I was in my french house phase was just digging through as much old stuff as possible (only to find out where my favorite artists sampled from)and experiment by slicing and dicing the sample. You are a slave to what you hear, and you can't really direct the project since your main tool is static.

The static nature of sampling made me just take a long break from the old house style sampling sound. You'll be doing a lot of grunt work and digging. Ever hear Todd Edwards' stuff? He takes time to sample that. It's pretty obvious he takes time to sample when you listen to his songs. He must have a huge library of snippets, and the patience of a monk. For now, I'll just make things from scratch.

That's just my experience though...

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So how do you guys find tracks to sample? I don't really know any funk besides James Brown and a few tunes here and there, so can anyone point me in the right direction?
Go to your general music record store, flea market, and goodwill store. They will usually have lots of old funk, disco, and rnb vinyl that'll be pretty cheap. You'll be sure to find obscure stuff too. Great for getting one shots too even though you can't use a bar of the song in your own song. It also helps to know a few dinosaurs who lived in the paleodisco era. Pretty sure your old uncle might have some old records he isn't playing in his garage.

Posted by kitphillips on Sep-15-2010 09:18:

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Originally posted by -FSP-

Fucking amazing advice. Thats the most inspiring post I've seen on here in an age.

I don't think sampling is lazy... But I think you should label the songs as what they are. If a song is 70% sampled from another single track then it should be labeled as a re edit.

Posted by Looney4Clooney on Sep-15-2010 11:59:

Sampling is very cool and very original when done right. Using something completely out of context in a way that isn't recognizable is cool and original. Letting samples guide your composition because they are long, recognizable and unoriginal isn't very cool.

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