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Posted by Rebel Brown on Oct-05-2010 14:04:

With VAT that mixer is nearly �2,300.


Fuck. That.


Posted by n3lly on Oct-05-2010 15:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Rebel Brown
With VAT that mixer is nearly �2,300.


Fuck. That.


I don't think it's going to cost over 2k.

We'll see but i'd be shocked!


Posted by tortoise on Oct-09-2010 07:53:

the only thing this has over my 92 is the input select. loved that on my old mixer, wish the 92 had it.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Oct-09-2010 08:25:

this mixer can suck my balls


Posted by Simon_N on Oct-09-2010 12:40:

http://www.djstore.com/item/mixers/allxonedb4.htm


Stupidly Expensive!


Posted by Zak McKracken on Oct-09-2010 13:24:

not so weird really. analog must die soon, it should have been fully digital.


Posted by PivotTechno on Oct-09-2010 14:26:

Do you even read what you type out before you his "submit"?

Why, in your esteemed opinion, does analogue need to die soon?


Posted by Zak McKracken on Oct-09-2010 15:18:

because its too expensive today.


Posted by PivotTechno on Oct-09-2010 15:23:

What exactly is too expensive these days? Please elaborate.


Posted by DJ RANN on Oct-09-2010 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
What exactly is too expensive these days? Please elaborate.


Dude, you need to relax and realize there was a large amount of tongue in cheek with what Nortek posted.


Posted by Stu Cox on Oct-09-2010 18:39:

quote:
Originally posted by PivotTechno
What exactly is too expensive these days? Please elaborate.

Whether intentional or not, he's right in that developing analogue hardware is a lot more expensive than developing digital hardware these days.

There's so much risk involved in developing high quality feature-full analogue hardware in that all you really have is a best guess that your design will function correctly and not be susceptible to noise when you send the circuit boards etc off to be manufactured. If when they come back it turns out there's too much cross-talk, or amplifier gains or bandwidths have been compromised, rework is really expensive and delays your time to market.

Digital systems, on the other hand, usually have a handful of reprogrammable digital chips at the centre of the design which do all of the clever processing - if you get it wrong first time, you just correct it in your firmware and reprogram the chips. Not risk-free by any means, but a lot less risky than an equivalent analogue design.


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-09-2010 20:01:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
this mixer can suck my balls


Won't your mom be jealous?


Posted by Zak McKracken on Oct-09-2010 21:53:

i was dead serious. even amplifiers should hurry up and be digital. this way we can avoid dacs all the way until the speaker-drivers and therefore have 100% control over freq-balance and distortion. people like analog because of its distorted sound, well that should be in the original track then, not the gear. the gear should reproduce the original track as close as it can. analog must die (in this part of the chain).


Posted by DJ RANN on Oct-09-2010 22:01:

Oh good fucking lord, the flame bait from hell!

Got.....to......resist.......


Posted by Zak McKracken on Oct-09-2010 22:03:

lol go on i can stand up for myself haha. my point is this mixer is too expensive.


Posted by orTof�nChiLd on Oct-09-2010 22:22:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
Won't your mom be jealous?


u shut ur trap, if you know wuts good for you newb


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-10-2010 06:56:

quote:
Originally posted by orTof�nChiLd
u shut ur trap, if you know wuts good for you newb


Ok 2008 lol uve bren around for a while...

I spin for crowds of 500+ 3-4 nights a week for 6 years! Bussiest clubs bussiest nights... What about u? Newb...

And earlier in thread ur bashing me for hating on the mixer. A page or two later ur hating on the mixer too. Jump on the bandwagon newb... be a good little follower


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-10-2010 06:58:

Lets see u mix some hip hop newbie


Posted by darouge11 on Oct-10-2010 07:35:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
Lets see u mix some hip hop newbie


dude stfu, you think your hot shit because you been here longer, and you spin in front of people...I seen some stupid posts from you...and dont ask what, because its not worth my time to dig


Posted by Stu Cox on Oct-10-2010 09:15:

Before you go too off-course, can we stick to talking about the mixer rather than diving into another willy waving competition?

Maybe it says something if A&H, who we know are sound purists, reckon that it costs this much to make an FX-filled mixer?

I reckon those who get the chance to have a go on one of these will see that the FX sound worlds above the Pioneer equivalents. Pio FX have always sounded really obviously digital to me, but I haven't had anything to compare them with. So I'm intrigued to see what these sound like.


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-11-2010 07:54:

Ok back on topic.. im pretty much in agreement w everyone else. Too expensive. Dont like the eqs. And im not a big fan of efx. The djm800 has been out for a while now im sure pioneer is already working on a mixer to rival this. Ill just stick with my ttm 57sl. I do think im gonna be adding some novation dicers to my setup here soon cuz i use turntables and they are perfect for me. A&h shoulda came out w a mixer like this years ago pioneer already won that market over.


Posted by feelgood on Oct-11-2010 13:54:

Get rid of all that gaudy white outlining and it might look semi decent. I'd never be in the market for something like that, so I don't care too much.

For that price tag, it better give you a blow job.


Posted by DJ RANN on Oct-11-2010 19:14:

quote:
Originally posted by discobiscuit
Ok back on topic.. im pretty much in agreement w everyone else. Too expensive. Dont like the eqs. And im not a big fan of efx. The djm800 has been out for a while now im sure pioneer is already working on a mixer to rival this. Ill just stick with my ttm 57sl. I do think im gonna be adding some novation dicers to my setup here soon cuz i use turntables and they are perfect for me. A&h shoulda came out w a mixer like this years ago pioneer already won that market over.


Erm, they already did bring out a new top end mixer, the djm2000, and it's just as cack as the 800 just double the price.

The 800 is not the industry standard as you asert. Maybe in small hiphop party clubs where you have to mix beyonce's latest in to a dance mix of MGMT but most of the clubs here in la have A&H unless it's rider specified otherwise.

I also have a feeling the DB4 is going to sound rather good, even if I hate "dj fx" with a passion.


Posted by DjWoody on Oct-11-2010 19:35:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
The 800 is not the industry standard as you asert. Maybe in small hiphop party clubs where you have to mix beyonce's latest in to a dance mix of MGMT but most of the clubs here in la have A&H unless it's rider specified otherwise.


I have to disagree with that. I've played at many clubs in LA and most have either a DJM800 or a TTM57. The times I''ve used an A&H have only been at Avalon (Xone 92), Circus (Xone 464), and at my own events (Xone 92). When I played at Vanguard we had a DJM800. Most other clubs I played at have either DJM 800 or TTM57 but mostly the 57 because of the Serato integration.


Posted by discobiscuit on Oct-11-2010 19:42:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
Erm, they already did bring out a new top end mixer, the djm2000, and it's just as cack as the 800 just double the price.

The 800 is not the industry standard as you asert. Maybe in small hiphop party clubs where you have to mix beyonce's latest in to a dance mix of MGMT but most of the clubs here in la have A&H unless it's rider specified otherwise.

I also have a feeling the DB4 is going to sound rather good, even if I hate "dj fx" with a passion.


I dont use the 800. I think it is crap. But i see them everywhere. On tv. In clubs. Im in the northeast us. Most clubs have the cdjs and djm. I use neither.

What hip hop dj would use the 800? The crossfader isnt made for a hardcore scratcher. They actually sell a replacement fader for the 800 which was made to suit a turntablist.

Thats funny i have a friend who lives in la. He says its pretty much a toss up between the 800 and 92 at clubs.

Im not a fan of fx either. Use echo and roll out in serato occasionally but thats it. Wish the ttm57sl had a decent filter...


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