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Posted by sljiva on Oct-06-2010 11:19:

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
I'm grade 8 violin, grade 5 piano, and compose classical music. Exactly what musical training do you have, and could name a thousand classical composers that trounce ATs 'musical ability'


Well good for you. When we'll discuss classical music, I'm sure you'll be taken more seriously.


Posted by Goebbel Goebbel on Oct-06-2010 11:42:

every time someone uses the term IDM it always makes me lol hard.

no one ever seems to want to explain how it is so intelligent, nor how one would want to dance to the vast majority of the stuff from that spectrum. I'm not calling "IDM" bad, i'm just saying that it seems to be a rally point for confused and lonely music nerds.


Posted by julien2 on Oct-06-2010 12:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Goebbel Goebbel
every time someone uses the term IDM it always makes me lol hard.

no one ever seems to want to explain how it is so intelligent, nor how one would want to dance to the vast majority of the stuff from that spectrum. I'm not calling "IDM" bad, i'm just saying that it seems to be a rally point for confused and lonely music nerds.


IDM is one of the most wrongly names music genres ever.

It is not intelligent just because the name says it.
It is not always danceable.

The problem is we don't really know what to call other than that. Warp Records coined the term in the early 90's and now we're stuck with it.

I don't know a single person who listens to IDM who likes the name, but everyone agrees that we don't know what else to name it...


Posted by Goebbel Goebbel on Oct-06-2010 12:33:

wtfbbqcore?


Posted by pozz on Oct-06-2010 15:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Goebbel Goebbel
every time someone uses the term IDM it always makes me lol hard.

no one ever seems to want to explain how it is so intelligent, nor how one would want to dance to the vast majority of the stuff from that spectrum. I'm not calling "IDM" bad, i'm just saying that it seems to be a rally point for confused and lonely music nerds.


it's a useful name for identifying a kind of sound. i don't really care about the "intelligent" part. there's plenty of stupid shite made within it.

the early UK IDM was called Braindance. that name fell out of use.


Posted by pozz on Oct-06-2010 15:23:

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Originally posted by Goebbel Goebbel
wtfbbqcore?


better than "glitchcore"


Posted by Trance-M on Oct-06-2010 18:06:

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Originally posted by sljiva
His music doesn't have an intellectual excitement for you, because you have no intellectual capacity to fully understand or appreciate it.


Doubt that's right to say.


Posted by SYSTEM-J on Oct-06-2010 18:09:

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Originally posted by sljiva
His music doesn't have an intellectual excitement for you, because you have no intellectual capacity to fully understand or appreciate it.


Good job on being the stereotypically obnoxious IDM fan, champ.


Posted by chesco on Oct-06-2010 18:28:

I suppose this would be as good a place as any to post this again:




Posted by Trance-M on Oct-06-2010 18:36:

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Originally posted by chesco
I suppose this would be as good a place as any to post this again:


I guess it's a good example which shows why many like his music and many don't at all.


Posted by Shade on Oct-06-2010 18:53:

quote:
Originally posted by chesco
I suppose this would be as good a place as any to post this again:





Although I feel like I've heard it before, the name of this tune isn't coming into my head - any idea what it is?


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Oct-06-2010 21:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Goebbel Goebbel
every time someone uses the term IDM it always makes me lol hard.

no one ever seems to want to explain how it is so intelligent, nor how one would want to dance to the vast majority of the stuff from that spectrum. I'm not calling "IDM" bad, i'm just saying that it seems to be a rally point for confused and lonely music nerds.


I agree entirely - it's an obnoxious misnomer in the same way that the "D" in any of these terms we use is. The "dance" portion of most electronic music is largely lost when you just suppose it's part of that collective experience of raves and clubs and social get-togethers with lasers and pheromones. Not saying you simply can't or shouldn't dance to it - but what isn't dance music when humans are seemingly capable of inventing some ritualistic momentum to flop around vertically to?

I'm sure people can boogie just fine to Willy Nelson. So it can be said that Willy Nelson makes "dance" music? CWDM. Country Western Dance Music. It's going to be big. Many a square shall be drawn.

It's just a term bred out of connotation, like most others. It doesn't mean much unless you're a nerdy genre snob willing to elaborate on the nuances of so-and-so in the first place.


Posted by Sykonee on Oct-06-2010 21:56:

I've always like his old setup. Looks like a mad scientist torturing music gear to create music for 'ardcore party kids.


Posted by Hypersawed on Oct-06-2010 22:06:

Venetian Snares is pretty cool as well.


Posted by enydo on Oct-06-2010 23:19:

this thread has taught me sljiva is a shithead.


Posted by sljiva on Oct-07-2010 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
Although I feel like I've heard it before, the name of this tune isn't coming into my head - any idea what it is?


It's definitely an unreleased tune. Judging by the laidback vibe + moderate acid work + GX1 sounds and the fact it's his last used output moniker, I'd say it's by The Tuss.

quote:
Originally posted by Shade
this thread has taught me sljiva is a shithead.


Well you learn something new each day.


Posted by infiniteJEST on Oct-07-2010 01:08:

enydo is...Shade?


Posted by enydo on Oct-07-2010 01:53:

I must be.


Posted by Shade on Oct-07-2010 02:48:

Apparently.

@sljiva - Interesting, thanks for the info. Especially the bit about me being enydo.


Posted by DancingMonkey on Oct-07-2010 09:30:

quote:
Originally posted by sljiva
Well you learn something new each day.



Posted by luisjb82 on Oct-08-2010 23:19:

Been a while since I last posted here...

What a great flashback I had when seeing the name of Aphex Twin... I agree with some of the posters as to the whole "IDM" thing, way too snobby for my taste but anyways, can't deny the talent of this guy.

I remember 2 years ago at this after party, we rolled some of the classics and it was just too good to describe. I for one think it's the kinda music you will understand when you're truly and incredibly fucked up.


Posted by djkenetics on Nov-30-2010 03:45:

Autechre

Aphex twin is nice but I got into Autechre more recently and his stuff just seems more complex and fun to listen to

aphex will always have a place in my heart though
my doom was a sick song


Posted by JakeC on Nov-30-2010 08:33:




Posted by djkopernikus on Nov-30-2010 21:01:

Stone in focus


Posted by phant0m on Dec-01-2010 18:50:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
No, because you try and make your subjective opinion sound more definitive by using words like "uninspired", which makes you sound like an idiot. Nobody who's heard more than three Aphex Twin tracks could call the guy "uninspired" because he has made an incredible variety of music and most of his tracks sound utterly different to everything else out there. You might think he's over-rated and you might find him boring, but to call him "uninspired" is an absolute joke. Try saying "I don't like him" next time instead of summoning up pompous and unfounded criticisms to sound more valid.

Just notice that he chooses Abdomen Burst over Aphex Twin and suddenly everything's become clear.

It doesn't take much time to sort out how young he was when he has recorded tracks for the "Ambient Works 85-92" album, which proves that he certainly is an extraordinary artist.


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