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First of all.. this:

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Originally posted by spiderpig Uh, are you new? 1. Sneak lives here 2. Besides this party, have you ever been to his other ones? Sneak's Bday Beats has always been one of the best parties each year he has it. Music, Vibe, everything is always top notch. Before you make comments like that, make sure you know what you're talking about, otherwise you look like an ignorant idiot. Fine, you had a shitty time at this party, don't start knocking the guy. He brought Toronto a guy that ALL OF YOU have been salivating to see, it's too bad it didn't pan out. This is what happens when: a. you have a party in the district. b. you get way too many promoters involved. Sneak should have just kept it simple like the old days.

I actually enjoyed myself for the most part at this party. Got there fairly early, just after 11. I loved the venue in comparison to Schmooze. Bravo for turning the venue into something that has great potential. The decor and lighting were sweet, and the overall layout of the club was like Sonic meets TIL. The crowd was pretty mixed; lots of beautiful people. I didn't find it as pretentious as others; By no means was it close to being like This Is London. I didn't experience too much pushing and I found a decent amount of people to at least be polite about it.

There were of course a few things a miss for a party of this caliber which is to be expected. Promoters said to arrive early.. the club had reached capacity really quickly. The issue here was that ticket holders had to wait in a much longer line that will call. Many had to wait over 2 hours and didn't even get to go in, with a ticket and all. They need to prioritize ticket holders in the future and ensure that they will have a spot in the club. Coat check was donation only, which at first was very generous, but that turned into a disaster for they ran out of space so early on and the organization in there was horrible. We're talking about 30 - 45 average wait time to GET your coat back. Drinks were pretty expensive too.. but promoters have no say in this. The sound needs to be tweaked, there's no denying that. There were a few good spots where you could make out the music perfectly, but it was pretty distorted in most parts on the main dance floor.

The openers were pretty bumpin' and made for good socializing tuneage. Sneak I found to be all over the place; didn't get into it as much as I'd tried, but there were some fun tracks thrown in his set. Most people going in seeing Villalobos for the first time usually have the wrong perception of what he's like and what he'll play. He's known to be pretty random with his music selection and likes to goof around. It was hard to enjoy myself given how crowded it was at this point, but Katy dragged us to the very front where the sound was sort of clear and the vibe was killer. I thought Ricardo was pretty good but definately nowhere near galactic lol. He was eclectic with his track selection and transitioned decently; not sloppy. Only Ricardo Villalobos can pull off suddenly bringing the wayback playbacks and get away with it. 80s, 90s freestyle WTF FTW haha. He lost me for a bit from 3 - 4 but I enjoyed watching him have as much fun as he did. I really liked 4 - 5 as he started to play deeper and funkier. Most people had left by then. Thanks for the dancing space! His outro was very.... strange. It brought me back to the "Adam Beyer" afterparty 4 years ago when they tortured us with Bjork for an hour.

Overall, Ricardo was a bit underwhelming, but I still managed to enjoy chunks of his set. I think this venue has great potential and I look forward to them correcting their errors and bringing in more talent.

A lot of reviews here are just people who have hugely high expecations (ever hear of don't believe the hype, ever?) or were let down because they waited a billion hours in line...meh.

I agree with everything Rj said AND like Tara, I met some cool people too, people from Nyc, Montreal, it was cool. I dare say MORE friendly then the people we USUALLY get in Toronto parties.

SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP if you didn't like the party.

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Originally posted by Vanos i inferred that comment was more related to the gheyness of his music correlated with chicago styles, aka "dont play that shit in to, keep it to chicago". im assuming he plays like chicago house/vocal house/disco house etc. which is really gay shit

This post makes you sound like a real tool. Homophobic too.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker I thought the opening act and Sneak were great. The place was on fire from 11:30 to 2:30 AM - party bongo tunes, everybody was rockin' good! House, house, house - good, good, good. Those who arrived early enjoyed it. Ricardo was good for 1h and then got distracted (by who knows what) and it went downhill. Disjointed, unplanned-feeling, odd-flow (other than 10-15 bursts). The end showed some potential and then again went off into the neither-regions of programming.

Absolutely agree with all of the above. 3-4am was a musical void IMO.

However, I have to add, the coat check situation took what was a decent night and made me leave absolutely infuriated. Hand girl ticket, girl drops on floor with other tickets, says oops, I don't know which one is yours. 45 minutes later, she finally is able to show us our jackets. FORTY FIVE MINUTES. Hey twit, you have ONE job. ONE. And it's not fucking hard.

This was after waiting almost 1 hour to check them to begin with.

Clearly, Ricardo Villalobos was only playing for himself last night. It was like watching him masturbate on stage. I paid $30 to dance, not to be involved in some horrible threesome where no one gets off (except, of course, for RV).

What really sucks is that there is SO MUCH good music out there right now... and he didn't play any of it. If I can access it, then so can he. Remember that the set he played was a choice, and he chose to play really shitty music� he chose ego stroking instead of doing his job.

after waiting so long to hear this guy and what happened last night... i am so disappointed

Dj sneak.. wow, he had some good grooving tracks going but his mixing was so so so so bad, he train recked a couple times and the music cut out on him completely.. yet everybody just started cheering (when villalobos had a little mix up the crowd would yell "ohhhhh"). it just seemed like good mixing was non existent.


Ricardo started off amazing, that jazzy bassline track was awesome, it kept going and he would cut the kick and bass out making you want to hear the bass come back multiple times, I thought this was a sign that it was going to be a good night... but a few songs in it just started going down hill, then he played the my life track i think, which didn't sound to bad but he went in to this 80's thing and it completely killed my mood. the last hour though he played some nice tracks went pretty hard and that kind of saved the night for me.

Maison is a nice club, very impressed by it... except the coat check took 30 mins and then they closed it after i checked my coat, so i got really lucky. The sound system was crisp and picked up the highs really nice but......... the djs seemed to be red lining it and it wasn't being used to its full potential, i heard a bit of echoing also from the way the club is i guess.

Track of the night Skala -Christian Burkhardt

lol

so glad i didnt get in now

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Originally posted by Skipper Absolutely agree with all of the above. 3-4am was a musical void IMO. However, I have to add, the coat check situation took what was a decent night and made me leave absolutely infuriated. Hand girl ticket, girl drops on floor with other tickets, says oops, I don't know which one is yours. 45 minutes later, she finally is able to show us our jackets. FORTY FIVE MINUTES. Hey twit, you have ONE job. ONE. And it's not fucking hard. This was after waiting almost 1 hour to check them to begin with.

ouch. that sucks hard!

as for the music, i quite enjoyed Fries & Bridges and Sneak had some inspired moments there - i thought the vibe was pretty hot overall.

villalobos was very hit or miss. he played some really interesting tunes, but then also some very filler stuff.
his mixing was at times laser point with what he was doing, very precise, but at other times so crazily loose it was baffling. drunken kung fu master stylez i would say. interesting for sure, but not exactly a party kinda vibe.

i got there earlyish to avoid the predictable door shit show, and left just before close, to avoid the similar thing with coatcheck. i enjoyed the venue and the party!

blame the PROMOTERS

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Originally posted by PivotTechno So people's expectations are to blame for the poor reviews?

When expectations are not met reviews will be bad... pretty easy concept.
It was Sneaks birthday beats. Ricardo was playing for DJ Sneak... I really do not understand how anyone thought they were going to get Berlin Ricardo Villalobos� I expected to hear his version of house, his version of classics, his version of vocals, and yes... his version of cheese�

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Originally posted by Vanos i inferred that comment was more related to the gheyness of his music correlated with chicago styles, aka "dont play that shit in to, keep it to chicago". im assuming he plays like chicago house/vocal house/disco house etc. which is really gay shit

You went to one of the fathers of HOUSE MUSIC 's birthday... seriously what did you expect?


Ok review time.

I think my experience last night was vastly different than you all for a few reasons. 1) I partied with a completely different attitude. 2) I went for DJ Sneak (cause I'm a house gansta) 3) I had no idea what to expect of Villalobos. Every time I clicked on a youtube link on the roll call I hated what I heard after 5 seconds, so I decided to just let him be surprise and go in open minded.

I knew that this party was going to be over sold. So I got there early to avoid the clusterfuck that would happen around 11:30. Plus I had heard good things about Fries and Bridges and felt they were worth checking out. I got into the club 10:50, not a single person in line. Coat check was maybe a 5 minute wait and I was really impressed that I didn't have to pay anything but a tip.

Took some time to explore the club, they did an amazing job on the renos. The club was BEAUTIFUL - a nice change from the usual venues.

I was really happy with Fries and Bridges set. It was the perfect warm up set, pretty fun sexy house tunes. They dropped the following track which made my night - one of those tracks that takes me to a really really happy place.



Sneak played a pretty good set too. My biggest problem with his set was that I felt he held back too much for his first hour. The vibe around me was huge and everyone just wanted to party, he definitely could have turned it up a notch earlier. Overall not as good as when I saw him in Detroit this summer but he had some really really great hand in the air booty shaking house moments.

I am not 100% how I feel about Villalobos. I enjoyed myself for the most part. When he first came on the change in music really threw me off, I left, filled up my water, and came back with a new mind set. Quickly I found myself getting into his set. His disco voyage seemed to have come out of no where, it really threw EVERYONE off... but hey, I like disco house - I took it for what it was and had some fun with it. I felt like he kept on going on different tangents and it took time sometime to catch up - but meh, I just kept dancing and enjoying the people around me. I really enjoyed watching him and his sloppyness... it was everything I had expected from his youtube videos. A sleezy I dont give a fuck attitude. And yeah he has some serious wtf bad mixing moment and some skips in beats here and there - but I wasnt going to let something like that ruin my night. I really enjoyed him 4-5, although disappointed to not hear him and sneak go b2b. I think the b2b would have really brought the whole night together and people would have maybe understood why he some of the styles of music that he did.

Oh and I enjoyed hearing 'It's my Life'... I thought it was really fun. Im a sucker for a bit of cheese once and a while

At 4am I tried to outsmart half the crowd (as the club was still pretty rammed) and get my coat early. To my dismay I found myself in a huge non moving line.Disappointed in how slow the line was moving I spoke to the bouncer about finding a solution. He apologized that I had been waiting so long, took my ticket and went and got my coat. Awesome

I stayed until close. I loved loved loved the 2nd or 3rd last track he dropped. And his closing was... an interesting experience lol. Overall I expected more from the number one techno dj� but I wouldn�t say he RUINED my night, that it was the WORST night ever� I danced, I laughed, I heard a lot new things�

To touch on a few other things...

I am pretty disappointed on how over sold this party was. I was worried the fire marshall was going to shut it down. With the exception of guv I have never been to a party so rammed. The club was not prepared; I waited 15 minutes at the bar just to be told they were out of water (it wasnt 2pm yet). I guess the got more shortly after. I tend to be the queen of finding good spots on the dance floor. 90% of the night I had enough room to dance and goof around, no one pushed me, and I thought the crowd was sexy, fun, down to party. I met some really great people through out the night. Yes there were some douchebags and bimbos, but they were less annoying than the crowd I experienced at FW last friday. Why let losers ruin your night? Just move to a new spot. I thank you all dealing with the Jersey Shore crowd cause the people around me were mad chill.
Oh and I wish I had a dollar for how many random people recognized me from TA � certainly made the night amusing.

that was absolute fucking rubbish! ricardo was abysmal. "it's my life" - are you joking? the coat check situation was fucking horrendous. we left early cos we couldn't deal with it anymore. i want those hours of my life back. and what's up with the poster of scarlett johanssen on the wall? really?

omg last night was just all kinds of lame that i did not want to deal with.

About the soundsystem:
I know the soundsystem was good because it sounded amazing when I first walked in when the openers were playing (as I mentioned before). But it sounded pretty crappy for Sneak and Villalobos... some of you are saying that they were pushing the mixer too hard. Do you guys mean they were red lining it? Wouldnt these veteran DJs be aware of stuff like that? Or maybe it sounded fine in the booth and they were unaware of how it sounded around the rest of the club?

I just dont get how guys with this much experience would have problems with levels.

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Originally posted by Endlesswave A lot of reviews here are just people who have hugely high expecations (ever hear of don't believe the hype, ever?)

I'll ask again... So people's high expectations - after shelling out $30+ to be entertained for the evening - are to blame for the poor reviews?

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Originally posted by ohmeohmymel Clearly, Ricardo Villalobos was only playing for himself last night. It was like watching him masturbate on stage. I paid $30 to dance, not to be involved in some horrible threesome where no one gets off (except, of course, for RV).

While our reviews are very different this is fucking hilarious

Im glad we are related

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Originally posted by Man_Devil I just dont get how guys with this much experience would have problems with levels.

You would be surprised...Couple years ago I opened for Gaudino... as soon as he got on, he cranked the master a good 90 degrees. Within half an hour, fuse blew twice. Some are deaf, some like to play loud. Remember, what you hear in the booth is different than what is playing on the main.

As for the party, that sucks. Any pictures/ videos??

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You went to one of the fathers of HOUSE MUSIC 's birthday... seriously what did you expect?

I think you are taking my post out of context. All my comment related to is my interpretation of what Mike said (and p.s. sorry about potentially offensive wording). I myself didn't expect anything good from sneak and therefore only showed up after he finished. But i did expect at least half decent music from Villalobos whose performance was hyped to be godly and unreal and then in the end he just got high as a rooster and "played" a set which was beyond horrendous by any objective merits.


p.s. love how people say that the sound was amazing in the beginning. Like it wasnt just about distortion, there seemed to be not at all enough power output on those speakers.

hearing sound like last night brings back the nostalgia of viva days makes me remember viva. now that was the fucking sound, especially as they upgraded when it changed to club rio

on another tip entirely here - for those wanting a more intimate vibe sans villalobos, tonight at Our House is Sneak, Phil Weeks, Hector Moralez, and Mes, along with locals.

Should be good!

WOW...what an interesting review thread. I ended up having a really good time even though the music was far below expectations.

I've seen Ricardo about 8 times in the past and for the most part he is unique and untouchable when he wants to be...however, when he gets distracted he often goes places nobody else in the club wants to go. Last night was one of those nights...apart from a few tracks and moments it was not a good night for him. Even if he was on I actually don't think most of the people here would have enjoyed it. He doesn't play what Toronto audiences like...he is no Sasha, Burridge, or Carlo Lio.

The opening DJ's and Sneak were great and anyone not agreeing or liking what they were playing simply doesn't have a clue about them. It would be the same as going to see Tiesto and complaining that he didn't play a hard driving techno set.

The sound system was spot on at the beginning but got worse as the night went on. That's the DJ's fault and not the systems.

I got to the club just after 11PM and it took me 2 minutes to get in...showing up for an event like this (huge DJ, big party, first big party at a new venue) after 11:30 is just stupid. It's going to be fucking chaos.

The crowd was what I expected so it didn't bother me.

Coat Check was a complete cluster fuck...why is it that the only club in this city that can run an efficient coat check 99% of the time is Guvernment?

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Originally posted by -g- on another tip entirely here - for those wanting a more intimate vibe sans villalobos, tonight at Our House is Sneak, Phil Weeks, Hector Moralez, and Mes, along with locals. Should be good!

WHAT! I wish I wasn't so tired

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Originally posted by Vanos I think you are taking my post out of context. All my comment related to is my interpretation of what Mike said (and p.s. sorry about potentially offensive wording). I myself didn't expect anything good from sneak and therefore only showed up after he finished. But i did expect at least half decent music from Villalobos whose performance was hyped to be godly and unreal and then in the end he just got high as a rooster and "played" a set which was beyond horrendous by any objective merits.

Don't believe the hype!!!! Unfortunately what we got last night was a distracted, out of touch Ricardo...it happens with Ricardo.

If you read more about Ricardo you would have known he can be very hit or miss. It might not be the best trait for a DJ (not everyone can be like Digweed) but that is what you get from Ricardo.

He always parties when he is in the booth...that's part of his shit show.

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Originally posted by Intangible WHAT! I wish I wasn't so tired

take a nap! gonna be a good un!

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Originally posted by -g- take a nap! gonna be a good un!

Im pm'ing you...

I had a very good time. The music was a little iffy at times.. but I just ended up chatting away or stepping out for a smoke during those parts. I found a great spot to dance in and was surrounded by great people, which made it much better.

I do agree that he wasn't giving it his all. His programming wasn't the greatest either.. but the last hour or so of his set made up for that. He was dropping some beautiful tracks then.

Fun night

the coat check girls were so stupid and un-organized yet people were still giving them $20 tips (mikeyN)...circle of idiocy...

overall the night was very up and down, sneak was alright and villalobos was all over the place but got better at 4am. The company of good friends and friendly strangers around me made it a decent night overall.

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Originally posted by -g- ouch. that sucks hard! as for the music, i quite enjoyed Fries & Bridges and Sneak had some inspired moments there - i thought the vibe was pretty hot overall. villalobos was very hit or miss. he played some really interesting tunes, but then also some very filler stuff. his mixing was at times laser point with what he was doing, very precise, but at other times so crazily loose it was baffling. drunken kung fu master stylez i would say. interesting for sure, but not exactly a party kinda vibe. i got there earlyish to avoid the predictable door shit show, and left just before close, to avoid the similar thing with coatcheck. i enjoyed the venue and the party!

Oh - and after spending 45 minutes one block from my apartment to get my coat (which we needed because the line to get in was so insane) I came home to my cat, who was in a serious medical condition that required emergency vet care at 5am. So when the vet told me that she *almost* died, I nearly marched back to that coat check girl and punched her in the face, for being such an IDIOT that she couldn't even hold on to one coat tag, thus requiring me to spend 45 minutes in coat check line while my cat was a block away basically dying.

Sorry, major rant, it was the worst night ever.

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