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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J I don't see what your point has to do with anything. The question Osterzone asked is what the deeper/techy/whatever stuff has to do with dubstep. Whatever the reasons why people like it, that stuff is still dubstep. It's probably closer to the original deep, trippy, dubby sounds of the genre than the diluted mid-range wobble-shite that people associate with the term these days.

he was commenting on my love of Shackleton et al fyi. it makes sense what he says. the kinda stuff i like aligns itself with genres i already like, like dub techno, idm, the soulful 2-step garage that came in 98-99, and the stuff on Skulldisco and Mala - Alicia falls resonates with the sounds in those genres. i'm predisposed to like that specific stuff cuz of previous listening. Especially if you take stuff like Groove Chronicles that started the wobble wobble:



sounds alot like 2-step garage. alot of the guys into dubstep (ie brostep) like it cuz of its harshness, its difference from the smoother stuff. one guy i was talking to said, "i like music so dirty that it's like fingering your little sister and finding your daddy's wedding ring" . and these are the same guys who hate "that techno shit" but love electrohouse.

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Originally posted by Woonyxoxo Yeah you probably didn't know what you were asking for 98% of Brostep is retarded noises that give me a headache but sometimes the wobbles somehow stick in my head like that Crispy Rolls track.

you can just filter out all of the highs and most of the mids and mix it with a nice tool and get the track of your dreams

im considering doing this

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Originally posted by pozz he was commenting on my love of Shackleton et al fyi. it makes sense what he says. the kinda stuff i like aligns itself with genres i already like, like dub techno, idm, the soulful 2-step garage that came in 98-99, and the stuff on Skulldisco and Mala - Alicia falls resonates with the sounds in those genres. i'm predisposed to like that specific stuff cuz of previous listening.

Yeah... but I don't get why this is being said. What is Ted playing devil's advocate against? Here's what happened in this thread:

Osterzone: "How does that sound like dubstep at all?"

You: "you have never heard of the Peverelist? or Shackleton? or Skulldisco (their label)? check it out. this is where the real nice sound of dubstep is coming out of. the wobbly stuff is just a scratch on the surface."

Ted: "Allow me to play devil's advocate here in saying that usually these artists appeal to people who already have a predisposition to tech house and techno."

I don't get it. Where has this discussion about why we like certain styles come from? It's self-evident that people who want filthy music will go for one sub-style of dubstep, people who want spacey stuff will go for another, people who want soulful stuff will go somewhere else etc.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Yeah... but I don't get why this is being said. What is Ted playing devil's advocate against? Here's what happened in this thread: Osterzone: "How does that sound like dubstep at all?" You: "you have never heard of the Peverelist? or Shackleton? or Skulldisco (their label)? check it out. this is where the real nice sound of dubstep is coming out of. the wobbly stuff is just a scratch on the surface." Ted: "Allow me to play devil's advocate here in saying that usually these artists appeal to people who already have a predisposition to tech house and techno." I don't get it. Where has this discussion about why we like certain styles come from? It's self-evident that people who want filthy music will go for one sub-style of dubstep, people who want spacey stuff will go for another, people who want soulful stuff will go somewhere else etc.

nahhh. this is not the chain of events. Woony posted in response to my dislike of everything else Mala ever made except "Alicia". Ted said my like of dubstep aint teh truestep. it has been influenced. i agreed.

edit: btw, this is one of dem influences:

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Originally posted by pozz nahhh. this is not the chain of events.

Those three posts I just repeated where quoting each other in that exact order. Ted didn't quote anything you said about Mala or anything you said to Woony.

breakfast does not lead to lunch. tings are not as chronologically linked as they may seem

The quote by Mr. Promo referred to the "techy sound" that i like:

"the dubstep i like is more techy, like some of the stuff released on Skulldisco. Mala - Alicia just reminded me of old 2-step garage like Groove Chronicles, had that same loungin jazzy vibe."

anyway, the thread seems done, but anyone have example of dubstep that sound like the Skulldisco stuff? (more techy is better, more intricate percussion is better, more ambient is better)

Since you mentioned idm, you could check out Defrag and especially Funckarma. Funcken brothers are idm->dubstep converts, but they detained clicks, pops, glitches and other idm elements in their music.

will do, sir.

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Originally posted by pozz anyway, the thread seems done, but anyone have example of dubstep that sound like the Skulldisco stuff? (more techy is better, more intricate percussion is better, more ambient is better)

Try a guy called Kuoyah. Got two of his promos in my inbox last month out of nowhere.

Latest tracks by Kuoyah

Latest tracks by BridgeDubstep

This guy's got some good stuff too

@sljiva - i check them. not really what i am looking for. sounds like the kinda stuff Mary Anne Hobbes would play on her show. thanks tho

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Try a guy called Kuoyah. Got two of his promos in my inbox last month out of nowhere.

interesting that he collaborated with Point B. nice recommendation

@Mr. Solomon - cheers man. gonna be coming up with a mix when the school lays off the pressure

I find it hard to find something exactly like Shackleton since I always figured he has quite a unique style.

Here is what I came up with no idea if this satisfys you

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Originally posted by Woonyxoxo I find it hard to find something exactly like Shackleton since I always figured he has quite a unique style.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper

Wow thats from 1987. I guess these kinda tracks were the inspiration for his style?

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Originally posted by Woonyxoxo Wow thats from 1987. I guess these kinda tracks were the inspiration for his style?

Yep. Apart from the how fiercely political of a project Muslimgauze is, I've always considered Shack to be more or less an extension of Bryn Jones for the new millenium. The similarity between his material and the early Skull Disco- and Mordant Music-stuff is very clear.

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sebastian leger used to play and make soulful house music... what happened to him?

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saying that, he is very talented at making fun of dubstep - keep doing this seb!

@Woony - Pinch - Croydon House is fooking choon!

@Sand Leaper - forgot about him. youre right about the influence tho. you can see it in this track too:

Wobble is good in moderation, I like what Skream does on his Skreamizm releases. However, it's way overused lately and very forced which results in alarming ratio of rubbish dubstep to quality dubstep. It's so hard to find good dubstep nowadays.

I'd like to hear more dubstep like Skream's Rinse 02 and N-Type's Dubstep Allstars Vol. 5. Also, Skream's Midnight Request Line is without a doubt one of dubstep-defining tracks.

Needless to say, Distance is one of the best dubstep artists ever.

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Originally posted by sljiva Since you mentioned idm, you could check out Defrag and especially Funckarma. Funcken brothers are idm->dubstep converts, but they detained clicks, pops, glitches and other idm elements in their music.

Combination of IDM and dubstep, now that is something I'd like to hear. I'll definitely check them out.

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Originally posted by Gauss It's so hard to find good dubstep nowadays.

If you ignore Brostep, Dubstep is almost looking better than ever before.

The DMZ guys keep doing their thing, Deep Medi and Swamp81 have been amazziiiing lately. Then there's Scuba/Hotflush/Ostgut doing the Techno/Dubstep merging thing, Instra:mental/dBridge doing the DnB/Dubstep Autonomic sound and people like James Blake completely pushing the boundaries of the genre. And Echodub for example doing Ambient/IDM-Dubstep and there's even people pushing the Dubstep-House sound, Fortified Audio & Nightslugs for example.

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Originally posted by Woonyxoxo If you ignore Brostep, Dubstep is almost looking better than ever before. The DMZ guys keep doing their thing, Deep Medi and Swamp81 have been amazziiiing lately. Then there's Scuba/Hotflush/Ostgut doing the Techno/Dubstep merging thing, Instra:mental/dBridge doing the DnB/Dubstep Autonomic sound and people like James Blake completely pushing the boundaries of the genre. And Echodub for example doing Ambient/IDM-Dubstep and there's even people pushing the Dubstep-House sound, Fortified Audio & Nightslugs for example.

Some nice recommendations, thanks, I'll check them out.

Looks like Scuba is as close as it gets to Burial.

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Originally posted by Gauss Some nice recommendations, thanks, I'll check them out. Looks like Scuba is as close as it gets to Burial.

For me Scuba always was the exact opposite of Burial, very clean and mechinal/techno style.





There are a few people copying Burial but I think he is very unique and out of the normal Dubstep scene.


This would be a good example of someone copying Burial, but it's still pretty good I think. (Immerse Records has a lot of this stuff)


You should also check out Clubroot, he has his own style but he has a bit of an Burial touch.

Thanks for posting that Clubroot, really enjoyed that.

I'm also a big fan of that Late EP... I like "Under These Conditions" a lot.

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Originally posted by Woonyxoxo You should also check out Clubroot, he has his own style but he has a bit of an Burial touch.

This is the wrong Clubroot album to compare with Burial, really. The first Clubroot album has a much eerier and darker sound. The new album sounds more panoramic and lush to me.

Woonyxoxo:

I don't know, I wouldn't call it the exact opposite... The feeling in their tracks is similar to me.

Thanks for posting Late, it really does sound like Burial and I like it, I'll check out more of his stuff.

I like Clubroot as well and will check him out too.

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