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Unrelated, but I was going through some old videos I had and came across a clip with Chris Lake in deadmau5's studio. Hard to believe that was around four years ago!

its his best album.

Lol @ Kismet.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I know better than to enter deadmau5 threads. I really do.

Then don't.

People here are all thinking of Deadmau5 NOW and not when he began his rise to fame. He didn't always use the farty bass sounds, and he didn't always cater to the millions of fans who just want to hear radio edm.

The thread was started as a discussion of his newest album, not as a discussion about him as a person. I've done my share of Deadmau5 hating, but I realized it's pretty pointless, and crying on message boards about somebody (and let's be honest, a number of people on here hate him for who he is as a person, not his music) really doesn't make you feel any better. Or maybe it does, but you just look like an idiot when you chime in on Deadmau5 threads over and over and over saying the exact same things.

On Topic: The new album is alright. I'm not a huge fan of the direction he's heading, but such is life.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 On Topic: The new album is alright. I'm not a huge fan of the direction he's heading, but such is life.

unfortunately, the direction deadmau5 goes is the direction popular edm is going.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Then don't. People here are all thinking of Deadmau5 NOW and not when he began his rise to fame. He didn't always use the farty bass sounds, and he didn't always cater to the millions of fans who just want to hear radio edm. The thread was started as a discussion of his newest album, not as a discussion about him as a person. I've done my share of Deadmau5 hating, but I realized it's pretty pointless, and crying on message boards about somebody (and let's be honest, a number of people on here hate him for who he is as a person, not his music) really doesn't make you feel any better. Or maybe it does, but you just look like an idiot when you chime in on Deadmau5 threads over and over and over saying the exact same things. On Topic: The new album is alright. I'm not a huge fan of the direction he's heading, but such is life.

I don't know if you read the rest of my posts but I wasn't trying to hate. I just realized it's pointless to even try to discuss anything in mau5 threads.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I don't know if you read the rest of my posts but I wasn't trying to hate. I just realized it's pointless to even try to discuss anything in mau5 threads.

Yeah I know you weren't one of those people. I was just saying if it's pointless to discuss anything in these threads, you might try not discussing anything in these threads

I like Deadmau5 but I'm just over this sound in general. I think he's talented and has done some great work but I'm just over the same sound. I know it's popular and what makes all the kidies go crazy but as an artist I would hope he would start moving on sound wise.

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Originally posted by costizzle I like Deadmau5 but I'm just over this sound in general. I think he's talented and has done some great work but I'm just over the same sound. I know it's popular and what makes all the kidies go crazy but as an artist I would hope he would start moving on sound wise.

i agree. he does have more potential.

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Originally posted by costizzle I like Deadmau5 but I'm just over this sound in general. I think he's talented and has done some great work but I'm just over the same sound. I know it's popular and what makes all the kidies go crazy but as an artist I would hope he would start moving on sound wise.

Actually, this pretty much sums up how most of the people in this thread seem to feel.

Wow, what's with the facepalm pictures? So stupid...at least try and explain your point.

The "objective talent" kind of debate is an argument I've had a lot of times, mostly withint eh context of rock music. It always goes like this:

You might like the way a guitar player plays (subjective, the way he feels the guitar) but theres certain guitar players who are technically more talented, objectively more talented (i.e eddie van halen, or any virtuoso guitar player) who can play a higher level of technicality (bigger stretches, hitting more notes in per second) but can't write songs.

it applies the same way in EDM

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Originally posted by stealthman Seandroid... What makes a person an idiot for not liking deadmau5. Really, he's just another zitfaced pasty bedroom geek who happened to discover some unique fart bass sounds (which anyone can do these days) in fl studio and decided to market it all off with endless boredom in front of a few virtual synths and a ridiculous red helmet. Quit blowing smoke up his ass.

That's hilarious to me because I assumed 95% of tranceaddict users, who all cheated on their 1st love (read: trance), are into pure Minimal queef-sounding techno productions these days.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery You really don't know the difference between an opinion and a fact, do you? This is absolutely pointless.

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tal�ent    /ˈt�lənt/ Show Spelled[tal-uhnt] Show IPA �noun 1. a special natural ability or aptitude: a talent for drawing. 2. a capacity for achievement or success; ability: young men of talent. ..

By definition, he certainly has displayed the ability and capacity for success based on his talent for DJing and making music. I can't for the life of me do what Deadmau5 can do.. why? Because I lack that talent. "Logical fallacy" my ass.

With that said (prepare to :facepalm: my post, kidz), the level of player hating in this thread is astounding to say the least.

I even caught myself disliking Deadmau5 simply because of some of the negativity you people seemed to have garnered for this artist, who's currently making waves in the mainstream. I come here on TA to read what other people think, to get a good balanced gauge of what's going on. And I must say, one must be careful in reading everything here.

For all we know, you all could be disinfo agents, hired shills of competing labels who come here to hate on Deadmau5. I actually liked the "Cthulhu Sleeps" track, I wish I could rock a crowd like that (look up the live video on YT). And by the way, I still hold respect for Anjunabeats, still have some hope for Tiesto and Armin, as well as trance in general.

We all grow and change, I know, but I'm not going to let a bunch of antagonizing message board warriors take the place over completely and dictate what's "talented" or not. I enjoy the posts, to everyone, it's been a good read.

I like some of deadmau5's music which is mainly his first album along with some of his older releases. I thought the last album was medicore but this new album is even worse imo. The only track I like on the album is the last track which is actually an older track. Right This Second is an OK track but sounds just like Ghost N Stuff and I can't stand any of the vocal and dubset tracks.

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Originally posted by LiQuiD_FuSioN By definition, he certainly has displayed the ability and capacity for success based on his talent for DJing and making music. I can't for the life of me do what Deadmau5 can do.. why? Because I lack that talent. "Logical fallacy" my ass.

Or maybe he's just a talent at marketing himself.

Deadmau5 sucks.

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Originally posted by LiQuiD_FuSioN By definition, he certainly has displayed the ability and capacity for success based on his talent for DJing and making music. I can't for the life of me do what Deadmau5 can do.. why? Because I lack that talent. "Logical fallacy" my ass. With that said (prepare to :facepalm: my post, kidz), the level of player hating in this thread is astounding to say the least. I even caught myself disliking Deadmau5 simply because of some of the negativity you people seemed to have garnered for this artist, who's currently making waves in the mainstream. I come here on TA to read what other people think, to get a good balanced gauge of what's going on. And I must say, one must be careful in reading everything here. For all we know, you all could be disinfo agents, hired shills of competing labels who come here to hate on Deadmau5. I actually liked the "Cthulhu Sleeps" track, I wish I could rock a crowd like that (look up the live video on YT). And by the way, I still hold respect for Anjunabeats, still have some hope for Tiesto and Armin, as well as trance in general. We all grow and change, I know, but I'm not going to let a bunch of antagonizing message board warriors take the place over completely and dictate what's "talented" or not. I enjoy the posts, to everyone, it's been a good read.

That's exactly what I was trying to say, thank you. Deadmau5 is OBJECTIVELY talented, factually and TECHNICALLY talented. Even if people actually don't like his music (which I have a tendency not to believe, as I said before, people hate him for the same stupid reasons people hate Apple, because they feel somehow superior for 'not liking' the status quo or 'being different' from the mainstream.

Most people who 'hate' deadmau5 are contrarians, mind you not all, but I find it hilarious when people say stuff like DEADMAU5 IS LE SUCK HE IS POOP and then go and post tracks and comment positively on tracks that sound like deadmau5 copy-pastas.

I ask again - how can someone be "factually talented"? What are the facts that measure talent?

Well that certainly isn't the only hilarious thing I see here. Why do you keep defending him? I think it is at least as "hilarious" as people saying he sucks.

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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery I ask again - how can someone be "factually talented"? What are the facts that measure talent?

I ask you again how you can be so oblivious. It's not like you can step on a scale and measure talent but some people are OBVIOUSLY more skilled than others. Maybe you're using talent as an adjective to describe quality, but you're completely wrong. Talent isn't an opinion, talent and skill are essentially synonyms.

If you are able to do something, then that is a skill or talent you've achieved. Deadmau5 is able to work a crowd very well, therefore he is talented at it. You can tell me to somehow measure that but I don't need to, go watch a video of him live, people go psycho when he plays. He's talented at it.

Deadmau5's tracks are well mixed and he's SKILLFUL at sound design, therefore he's talented at it. Once again you can tell me what 'measure' I used to decipher this but all you need to do is listen to his tracks, even if you want to call them 'farty basslines' they're some damn well structured farty basslines.

If you want to continue thinking talent is an opinion then you can't tell someone they're stupid for thinking their cat has more talent in an inch of it's body than you'd ever accomplish in your entire existence.

See how ridiculous that sounds? Well that's exactly what you're saying.

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Originally posted by JEO Well that certainly isn't the only hilarious thing I see here. Why do you keep defending him? I think it is at least as "hilarious" as people saying he sucks.

Because it's an interesting discussion? At least I'm giving reasons behind my arguments rather than LOLZ DEADMAU5 IS POOP FART BASSLINES NO TALENT HACK!11

I could say Eric Prydz has no talent because all his tracks sound similar [which I don't mind, but I find it strange that you guys seem to be so obsessed with him yet complain about deadmau5 always using the same sound, when his tracks very so much sometimes it's hard to tell they're both the same producer] and you guys would all simultaneously have heart attacks, shit yourselves so hard you rose 3 feet of the ground and flame me into charcoal, BECAUSE HE'S OBVIOUSLY TALENTED.

I just do not see anything obvious here. I do not see what sets this guy apart from the rest, apart from the giant mouse head. Although I also have to admit I don't know much of his works.

You only think he is talented because you like him, which is completely understandable. But there are a lot of people who think the complete opposite of his talent than you do - that is also completely understandable. That's why the whole "he's obviously talented and anyone who disagrees is an idiot" argument doesn't really work.

I guess we just see things differently - I don't think skill and talent are the same thing. I think anyone can be skilled with enough practice but only the truly talented stand out from the crowd... and you can't really measure talent with success either because sometimes true talents are completely unknown.

I'd write more but I'm doing this on my phone and it's taking ages. I hope you see what I'm trying to say.

My final opinion on deadmau5:




Afterall, cheese does tend to stand out more vibrantly. Sheep will swallow anything widely accessible.

@ Seandroid - if you don't know what '8th notes' means in reference to deadmau5, you haven't been around long enough to gauge this guy's talent. for the most part, it's not strained. He's in his 20s now, but hes been producing for prolly around 10 years. Long enough to make farty basslines with ease.

this negative marketing shit is amazing tho. we prolly generate more deadmaufive fans through the hate than through whatever fans he has flooding forums.

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Originally posted by pozz @ Seandroid - if you don't know what '8th notes' means in reference to deadmau5, you haven't been around long enough to gauge this guy's talent. for the most part, it's not strained. He's in his 20s now, but hes been producing for prolly around 10 years. Long enough to make farty basslines with ease. this negative marketing shit is amazing tho. we prolly generate more deadmaufive fans through the hate than through whatever fans he has flooding forums.

I know exactly what that means, lol, I have a lot of "8th note" deadmau5 tracks. I've been a fan of deadmau5 for more than 3 years now, I know that most of his proggy tracks sound similar, but what I meant by that was the fact that Joel jumps genres like crazy, and his electro tracks, farty bass lines or not, generally vary quite a bit. IE Cthulu Sleeps, FML and Some Chords have next to nothing in common.

@Mr.Mystery I know where you're coming from. Though whereas you feel I only think Deadmau5 is talented because I like him, I don't think that's true at all. For instance Opera music makes me want to shoot small children but I'll be damned if those songstresses don't have talent. Celine Dion drives me up the wall but the woman can sing my face off. I understand what you mean though, and we'll just have to agree to disagree there.

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Originally posted by Seandroid Because it's an interesting discussion? At least I'm giving reasons behind my arguments rather than LOLZ DEADMAU5 IS POOP FART BASSLINES NO TALENT HACK!11

And how isn't the poop farty bassline not a reason for "hating" him? You stating that his poop fart bassline is awesome is the exact same. Some people here have listened to edm longer than you've lived, and know when a fart just doesn't cut it as a bassline.

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Originally posted by Seandroid what I meant by that was the fact that Joel jumps genres like crazy I generally do like him

You're calling him by his real name, does that mean you can't think of him as an artist, that you're attached to the person, instead? You liking him generally really proves you're biased.

I hate him in person, I hate his voice, his attitude in general, he's pompous, and hangs out with Tommy Lee. I guess I'm kind of biased too.

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