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Posted by jon jon on Jan-18-2011 08:09:

(I wouldn't say "easy" lol)


Posted by Nobbie Q on Jan-18-2011 08:12:

quote:
Originally posted by Vanos
if u know the tracks ur playing and can see the soundwave (e.g. cdj1000/traktor etc.) u can mix easy with no headphones!


Yep, a lot of the tracks have the same structure so they all look similar on the soundwave. So the problem isnt mixing anymore, just mixing the right tracks and doing good programming of the set which is something Traktor soundwaves can't do for you.

Yeah SMH play alotta their own shit and remixes so that would make it even easier as someone else said, and plus SA has 15 yrs dj'ing experience to boot. It's all about the tracks and programming which you don't really need headphones for if you play your own stuff or stuff that you know well. I enjoyed him last January and although I was wondering what he was doing without headphones he was still definately looking down at the decks and still doing stuff and I thought he progremmed his set nicely.


Posted by Man_Devil on Jan-18-2011 16:10:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
nice post!

Angello's right, haha what he says makes total sense, especially if you play as much as he does and + he plays so many of his own productions...

fuck, if someone held a gun to my head, I could probably pull off a whole set w/out headphones, it just becomes 2nd nature the longer you play I think... plus his style isn't big long transitions, it's in/out with a few bars...


Does he use traktor? With all the visual aids on the screen it isnt hard to mix without headphones... but doing it just with CDJs would be pretty impressive.

But he probably does play often enough, plus know his songs well enough to do it either way.


Posted by Nobbie Q on Jan-18-2011 16:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Man_Devil
Does he use traktor? With all the visual aids on the screen it isnt hard to mix without headphones... but doing it just with CDJs would be pretty impressive.

But he probably does play often enough, plus know his songs well enough to do it either way.



He only uses cdjs. I haven't seen a laptop of any sort in his dj booth so yea it is impressive


Posted by Yohan on Jan-18-2011 16:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Man_Devil
Does he use traktor? With all the visual aids on the screen it isnt hard to mix without headphones... but doing it just with CDJs would be pretty impressive.

But he probably does play often enough, plus know his songs well enough to do it either way.

not really. CDJ mk3s's waveform display is good enough, esp when you know your tunes


Posted by geroin on Jan-18-2011 16:41:



end of the vid lol
he claimed on twitter that he djed so much that he doesn't need headphones to mix tracks in, i think that bs because not all tracks just start with a kick (unless he just picks those tracks)


Posted by Nobbie Q on Jan-18-2011 16:54:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin


end of the vid lol
he claimed on twitter that he djed so much that he doesn't need headphones to mix tracks in, i think that bs because not all tracks just start with a kick (unless he just picks those tracks)


Hmmm he could be storing cue points for each track prior to the set? Then he could just go forward in the track to the cue point. But I'm not sure if you can do that with cdjs. So yea it's possible he's doing more work with his sets then we realize.

Oh yeah I completely forgot that the newer cdjs have waveform display on the console


Posted by geroin on Jan-18-2011 17:07:

quote:
Originally posted by Nobbie Q
Hmmm he could be storing cue points for each track prior to the set? Then he could just go forward in the track to the cue point. But I'm not sure if you can do that with cdjs. So yea it's possible he's doing more work with his sets then we realize.

Oh yeah I completely forgot that the newer cdjs have waveform display on the console


how does anything you just said apply here? is he using new cdj's?


Posted by WittyHandle on Jan-18-2011 17:23:

Take One? I just took a two and enjoyed it much more.

And while my bet is on him playing pre-mixed CDs, I remember seeing Supa DJ Dimitry play without headphones back in the mid 90's, and that was all vinyl.


Posted by Yohan on Jan-18-2011 17:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Nobbie Q
Hmmm he could be storing cue points for each track prior to the set? Then he could just go forward in the track to the cue point. But I'm not sure if you can do that with cdjs. So yea it's possible he's doing more work with his sets then we realize.

Oh yeah I completely forgot that the newer cdjs have waveform display on the console

yes he could have preset cue points for each of his tracks and save it to SD card on each CDJ. insert SD card into CDJ before set and voila, your tracks are pre cued


Posted by CAKE on Jan-18-2011 19:24:

I use to be the biggest SHM fan ever but I as for productions go only axwell has produced tracks that I purchased in the last 2 years or so, don�t really like what Angello & Ingrosso have been putting out as of late witch is sad because they were amazing a few years back. They are still in my favorites and I know they put on an amazing show live so its always a good idea to see them

I really enjoyed this documentary, I like how it gave us an inside look into the SHM lives and how serious they are about their work.


Posted by Euphorica on Jan-18-2011 21:00:

where are you guys watching it?


Posted by samhouse on Jan-19-2011 04:56:

quote:
Originally posted by jon jon
nice post!

Angello's right, haha what he says makes total sense, especially if you play as much as he does and + he plays so many of his own productions...

fuck, if someone held a gun to my head, I could probably pull off a whole set w/out headphones, it just becomes 2nd nature the longer you play I think... plus his style isn't big long transitions, it's in/out with a few bars...


don't get me wrong...it is very do-able. However it does show a lack of caring for the music you are playing. If he had pulled it off and played flawless, I would have been amazed and singing his praises for playing without headphones. But the fact is..he didn't. He made quite a few errors.


Posted by Mach X on Jan-19-2011 05:47:

Even without waveforms, if all his music is in a small window of a pitch range (ie. 126-130), and most are his edits, or edits he made so he is well aware of a kick bringing it in, or he made edits for him to play out which are not the same versions you would buy if you grabbed the track from Beatport, you'd know your music very well. Especially if he is playing each and every night.

You can use the EQ display on the mixer to find start points and kicks drums too.

Not saying I can do it for a entire night, or even successfully for an entire mix, but using various methods it is possible. A combination of the BPM on the CDJ, the graphic EQ for the channel and general experience/familiarity with your tracks.

I've heard/read tons of stories from world renowned DJs who have been playing parties SOOOOO loud, that they couldn't hear shit out of their headphones and had to rely on those exact methods I mentioned above to get away with their mixes.

I've seen videos of Carl Cox doing it without headphones using vinyl...


Posted by Whip_lash on Jan-29-2011 17:59:

Does anyone know where i can find the english subtitles for this? almost 90% of it is in swedish.


Posted by -g- on Jan-29-2011 22:59:

guys, have you ever tried djing without headphones?
it is not very hard.

now if you want to be really creative and actually do something interesting - and as mentioned do it without making mistakes - then headphones are particularly helpful.

anyway if bootlegging coldplay is what counts for good music from these guys, i'll take a pass.


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