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fuck it. lol. im bored. i get the results i want in both settings.
it doesnt make sense and it doesnt matter to me in my simple productions.


i think i heard both mixed in a orbital track during the intro. it was interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n2mfPTZXmM

tell me what this is then?

X--x--x--X--x--x--X--x--x--

9/3?

9/8

3/4 with triplets under the quarter note

i totaly dont understand whats eight in there. nothing is eight.

Leftfield - 6/8 War

Perhaps? Some FSOL tracks are in weird time signatures, but they hardly class as "dance tunes". As a non-musician I don't really understand time signatures, I certainly suck at hearing them.

This thread reminds me of the time my friend and I decided (possibly while drunk) to remix Dolly Parton - 9 to 5 in a 9/5 time signature. We tried recalibrating Guitar Pro but got the message "Error - Incorrect Keyboarding" so we turned to FL, which was more accomodating of our impossible demands. We quickly abandoned the remix idea, but did make an extremely funky beat in whatever the fuck FL thinks 9/5 time is. I think he's still got the file somewhere, might try and upload it for the lulz.

that is because 9 / 5 is not a signature. WHy is this so fucking hard to understand. It is like grade 3 division when you have the pies and shit.

the top is how many
the bottom is what denomination

9/5 means 9 fifth notes per bar, beautiful except there is no such thing as a fifth note.

We were well aware of that. My friend is actually a good musician, and we were trying to remix Dolly Parton, for fuck's sake. Do you really think we were either serious or sober?

FL still gave us "9/5" anyway. My friend did figure out what it really was later on, but what I do know is that the beat was ridiculously funky.

no it didn't. YOu don't seem to understand that it isn't possible given the conventions of naming time signatures in western music.

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Originally posted by ken_lee as i now understand it: 3/4: x---x---x--- 12/8: x--x--x--x--

Technically you're right but to clarify, you're subdividing by 16th notes in the first example, and 8th notes in the second. Don't get those confused. He only corrected you because if you're going to subdivide both examples by the same note, 3/4 would be:

x-x-x-

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Originally posted by ken_lee tell me what this is then? X--x--x--X--x--x--X--x--x-- 9/3?

Uh, 9/3? You're saying there's nine 3rd notes in that? The hell is a 3rd note?

Each X is an eighth note. There are nine X's there. Hence, 9/8. Nine eighth notes. It's really not complicated.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad no it didn't.

You can do 9/5 in FL, all it does is add an extra 16th note to each beat, which would otherwise be an x/4 meter. It's stupid really. This is what the piano roll looks like, with each dark grid line being a 16th note and each lighter line being a "5th" note:



It's really just 45/16, why the fuck anyone would ever want to use that meter is beyond me.

I really had no idea this many people are so clueless to basic theory. I learned time signatures in 6th grade band class, there's no reason you guys can't figure it out in 10 minutes looking at Wikipedia.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad no it didn't.

I know it didn't really give us 9/5. It gave us "9/5". Hence why I said "whatever the fuck FL thinks 9/5 is" and "My friend figured out what it really was". You're not very quick on the uptake, are you?

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Originally posted by Kysora I really had no idea this many people are so clueless to basic theory. I learned time signatures in 6th grade band class, there's no reason you guys can't figure it out in 10 minutes looking at Wikipedia.

I'm clueless because I'm not a musician. I'm a writer. I've got a whole bunch of theory for my own craft. You wanna talk about positive modal shading, deictic centres, transitive verbs and free indirect discourse? I'm your man.

But seriously, try throwing down a breakbeat in 45/16. Dangerously funky.

no i think you are the one that is slow. YOu are saying fruity gave you a time signature of 9/5, i'm telling you it didn't. You were the ones not sober. That piano roll is still not 9/5. Fruity didn't give you 9/5

Lollercoaster!

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad no i think you are the one that is slow. YOu are saying fruity gave you a time signature of 9/5, i'm telling you it didn't.

Clearly my grammatical employment of "irony" was too subtle for you to comprehend, as were my clear statements that FL was attempting the impossible and that it was wrong.

people have said dumber shit on here. I can't always give people the benefit of the doubt.

There's giving people the benefit of the doubt and then there's not bothering to read posts properly because you're tripping over yourself in your haste to be a condescending prick.

Put your knowledge to some use and tell me if 6/8 War is actually in 6/8.

provide a link pecker head. The only song war I know is by Edwin Starr.

You don't know Leftfield? Welcome to dance music.



Only video I could find on Youtube. Don't ask me what the video is all about.

12/8 I suppose but I would conduct something like that in 4/4. The hypermeter is really what makes it 12/8 and not 6/8

I don't have to listen to every dance tune to pretty much get the concept. It is pretty simple music.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J FL still gave us "9/5" anyway. My friend did figure out what it really was later on, but what I do know is that the beat was ridiculously funky.

You must have been really drunk or using a special version of FL... Because even FL can understand time signatures lol...

You all seem to be missing the point.

the number on top is how many notes per bar. so 3/8 has three notes per bar. The number underneath means what SORT of note per bar (crotchet, quaver etc). So 3/4 means that there are three crotchet notes per bar. 3/8 would mean that there are three eighth notes per bar.

You can't have 3/5 or 3/9 because there is no such thing as note with a duration of a fifth or a ninth!!

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Originally posted by kitphillips You must have been really drunk or using a special version of FL... Because even FL can understand time signatures lol...

See Kysora's post above. FL allows odd numbers in its time signatures, even though it doesn't actually break the laws of music when delivering them.

Clueless question: why are all notes even? What's to stop a fifth note from existing?

Fall under therealm of tuplets but it is represented by a normal note, 5of them bracketed together

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Originally posted by kitphillips You must have been really drunk or using a special version of FL... Because even FL can understand time signatures lol... You all seem to be missing the point. the number on top is how many notes per bar. so 3/8 has three notes per bar. The number underneath means what SORT of note per bar (crotchet, quaver etc). So 3/4 means that there are three crotchet notes per bar. 3/8 would mean that there are three eighth notes per bar. You can't have 3/5 or 3/9 because there is no such thing as note with a duration of a fifth or a ninth!!

Bottom number is what kind of note gets one beat.

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